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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    The funny thing about masks is they have to be worn to get any protection. It's not dependent upon the colour of the state.
    It sounds like what you're suggesting is that the burden to wear a mask and social distance falls on the shoulders of the individual and not the liberal governors....or Trump?

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    U.S. blacks 3 times more likely than whites to get COVID-19














    Black Americans are infected with COVID-19 at nearly three times the rate of white Americans, according to a new document from the National Urban League. The report, based on data from Johns Hopkins University, also shows black Americans are twice as likely to die from the virus.

    According to the "State of Black America," the infection rate for blacks is 62 per 10,000, compared with 23 per 10,000 for whites. Latinos see even more infections: 73 per 10,000.
    During the early months of the pandemic, the report asserts that blacks were more likely to have preexisting conditions that predispose them to COVID-19 infection, less likely to have health insurance, and more likely to work in jobs that do not accommodate remote work.

    Both black and Latino Americans are also more likely to live in multigenerational housing, which places older, at-risk adults in close contact with younger people who may not know they have the virus.
    The report’s findings were echoed in new data published today in Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, which shows that in many hot spots throughout the country this summer, Hispanics and Latinos were disproportionately infected with the novel coronavirus.

    The analysis looked at county-level data for states experiencing a surge of virus activity during Jun 5 through 18. "Disparities in cases were identified among underrepresented racial/ethnic groups in 76 (96.2%) analyzed counties," the authors said. "Disparities among Hispanic populations were identified in approximately three quarters of hotspot counties (59 of 79, 74.7%)."
    Community transmission this summer was noted most heavily in Arizona, Texas, and Florida — states with large Hispanic populations.

    As many as 200,000 deaths by Labor Day


    In its latest summary of modeling forecasts, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) predicts the United States will see 180,000 to 200,000 total COVID-19 deaths by Sep 5.
    Currently, the United States has 167,948 deaths and 5,289,232 cases of COVID-19.
    "State- and territory-level ensemble forecasts predict that the number of reported new deaths per week may increase over the next four weeks in Colorado and may decrease in Arizona, the Northern Mariana Islands, Vermont, and Wyoming," the CDC said.

    As the death toll grows, so does the number of Americans who say they know someone who has had the virus. Now half of the country's population says they know someone who has contracted the virus, up from 41% last month, according to a survey from the Societal Experts Action Network. The percentage was consistent across all regions in the country.
    The poll also showed that most Americans, 73%, would support a national mask mandate. Thirty-four states now require masks in indoor public spaces, but President Donald Trump has said he is not going to issue a national mandate.

    Yesterday, former Vice President Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee for president, and his running mate, Kamala Harris, said they would support a 3-month national mask mandate. In their first appearance together earlier this week, Biden and Harris both donned black masks before making remarks to reporters.
    The White House coronavirus task force, in contrast to Trump, is encouraging a mask mandate in Georgia, where soaring numbers hint at uncontrolled community spread. In addition to a mask mandate, the task force is recommending shuttering all indoor dining and limiting social gatherings to fewer than 10 people, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

    No copays for COVID-19 vaccines


    Late yesterday, Paul Mango, deputy chief of staff for policy at the US Department of Health and Human Services, told reporters that the federal government will make sure no Americans have to pay copays for the COVID-19 vaccine once one becomes available.

    "What we’re hoping is that every American will not only get a free vaccine distributed to many different outlets, but also will not have to pay for the administration of that vaccine,” Mango said on a call with reporters, according to the Wall Street Journal.

    In other vaccine news, Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said scientists at his institute are working to create a strain of coronavirus that could be used in human challenge trials. In an interview with CNN, Fauci called this a "Plan D" and said the work was still in preliminary stages. Human challenge trials are controversial, as there is no known cure for COVID-19.













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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    It sounds like what you're suggesting is that the burden to wear a mask and social distance falls on the shoulders of the individual and not the liberal governors....or Trump?

    .... it is not a burden to wear a mask. At most, a minor inconvenience and a show of respect to those around you. All citizens including all politicians should wear a mask regardless of ideology.

    Public health policy is not a political statement.

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    .... it is not a burden to wear a mask. At most, a minor inconvenience and a show of respect to those around you. All citizens including all politicians should wear a mask regardless of ideology.

    Public health policy is not a political statement.
    You like to argue the strangest things -"burden". I would say that "burden" is in the eye of the beholder.

    Let's focus on the main point of my post? Should we blame liberal governors for their folks not wearing a mask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    You like to argue the strangest things -"burden". I would say that "burden" is in the eye of the beholder.

    Let's focus on the main point of my post? Should we blame liberal governors for their folks not wearing a mask?
    ... do not right leaning Governors and politicians deserve blame for their citizens not wearing masks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SalesServiceGuy View Post
    ... do not right leaning Governors and politicians deserve blame for their citizens not wearing masks?
    You can't answer a question with a question. Try to answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    It sounds like what you're suggesting is that the burden to wear a mask and social distance falls on the shoulders of the individual and not the liberal governors....or Trump?
    You gathered that from me stating that masks only work when they are worn?

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    You gathered that from me stating that masks only work when they are worn?
    Sure. Who are we to blame? The people who don't wear a mask or the liberal governors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    Sure. Who are we to blame? The people who don't wear a mask or the liberal governors?
    Well, since there is free will any refusal to wear a mask when directed is that person's decision. If they become infected and /or infect someone else it is on them

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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    Well, since there is free will any refusal to wear a mask when directed is that person's decision. If they become infected and /or infect someone else it is on them

    I agree. And that's why we shouldn't blame politicians and that includes Trump. Cumio, Trump or any other politician can tell me to wear a mask. If I choose not to, they can't make me. Let's be consistent. The spread of the virus in the USA isn't on Trump. It's on the people.

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