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    Most states with the strictest COVID lockdowns destroyed millions of jobs for their citizens, while those with modest, targeted rules are largely experiencing low levels of unemployment even for normal times. Strict states ruined livelihoods — without saving lives

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    Most states with the strictest COVID lockdowns destroyed millions of jobs for their citizens, while those with modest, targeted rules are largely experiencing low levels of unemployment even for normal times. Strict states ruined livelihoods — without saving lives

    Since how many lives were saved is an unknown factor that can be debated. There is no question we do know 570,000 American's are now dead because of Covid19.

    Fortunately President Biden Plan is working and the US is a much better place than last year at this time.

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    Florida’s theme parks are starting to ease up on pandemic safety measures put in place when they reopened last summer, including temperature screenings and social distancing in outdoor spaces.

    Face masks are still required and crowds are being limited, but Universal, Disney, SeaWorld and Busch Gardens have all announced they will stop screening visitors for temperature before entry. Last month, Dr. Raul Pino, who heads the Florida Department of Health office in Orange County, said he didn’t think the practice was necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    Since how many lives were saved is an unknown factor that can be debated. There is no question we do know 570,000 American's are now dead because of Covid19.

    Fortunately President Biden Plan is working and the US is a much better place than last year at this time.
    Last year at this time we were just getting the grasp on it.. even the WHO and CDC still weren't sure about it. They were saying 2 million would die from it.

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    Macron starting to sound a lot like Trudeau. I say with friends like the French and Canadians.....who needs enemies? The USA needs to understand that neither France nor Canada are our friend. They only like us when they want something. That's the way that I see it.



    Macron Accuses ‘the Anglo-Saxons’ in UK and U.S. of Hoarding Vaccines



    President Emmanuel Macron turned to rhetoric fit for the Napoleonic era in his latest attempt to deflect blame for French and EU inoculation programme failures, accusing “the Anglo-Saxons” of hoarding vaccines and vaccine ingredients.


    “Today, the Anglo-Saxons block many of these ingredients and vaccines,” alleged the staunch European Union loyalist as he arrived in Porto, Portugal, for a meeting of the head of the unelected European Commission with the heads of state and government of the EU member-states to discuss bloc-wide social policy.


    “Today, 100 per cent of the vaccines produced in the United States are for the American market,” he further claimed, in comments reported by Agence France-Presse via Le Point on Friday.


    However, the veracity of President Macron’s allegations notwithstanding, the European Union has not been especially selfless in its own treatment of “the Anglo-Saxons” — a term used by the French to refer to the British, the Americans, or the Anglosphere in general — with the French backing Italy’s seizure of AstraZeneca vaccines which had been produced under contract for Australia in March, for example.



    Many anti-Brexiteers in the UK and the British media landscape had contended near the start of the Chinese coronavirus pandemic that the British government’s decision to opt-out of joint vaccine procurement would hinder vaccine availability, with The Guardian running an article titled “Brexit means coronavirus vaccine will be slower to reach the UK” in March 2020.


    In reality, as President Macron’s “Anglo-Saxons” diatribe indicates, Brexit Britain proved able to negotiate contracts for vaccine orders and approve vaccines for use much faster than the EU, with the bloc going so far as to threaten to impose a hard border between EU member-state the Republic of Ireland and the British country of Northern Ireland — something it had decreed totally unacceptable during the Brexit negotiations — in order to prevent British vaccine orders from leaving its territory.


    EU heavyweight Angela Merkel’s vice-chancellor reportedly denounced the EU’s joint procurement efforts as “really shit”, and arguably one of the most successful vaccinators in the bloc has ended up being Hungary — which was forced to go outside the EU scheme and order in doses nationally, even turning to Russian and Chinese inoculations to make up the shortfall.






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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    Macron starting to sound a lot like Trudeau. I say with friends like the French and Canadians.....who needs enemies? The USA needs to understand that neither France nor Canada are our friend. They only like us when they want something. That's the way that I see it.



    Macron Accuses ‘the Anglo-Saxons’ in UK and U.S. of Hoarding Vaccines



    President Emmanuel Macron turned to rhetoric fit for the Napoleonic era in his latest attempt to deflect blame for French and EU inoculation programme failures, accusing “the Anglo-Saxons” of hoarding vaccines and vaccine ingredients.


    “Today, the Anglo-Saxons block many of these ingredients and vaccines,” alleged the staunch European Union loyalist as he arrived in Porto, Portugal, for a meeting of the head of the unelected European Commission with the heads of state and government of the EU member-states to discuss bloc-wide social policy.


    “Today, 100 per cent of the vaccines produced in the United States are for the American market,” he further claimed, in comments reported by Agence France-Presse via Le Point on Friday.


    However, the veracity of President Macron’s allegations notwithstanding, the European Union has not been especially selfless in its own treatment of “the Anglo-Saxons” — a term used by the French to refer to the British, the Americans, or the Anglosphere in general — with the French backing Italy’s seizure of AstraZeneca vaccines which had been produced under contract for Australia in March, for example.



    Many anti-Brexiteers in the UK and the British media landscape had contended near the start of the Chinese coronavirus pandemic that the British government’s decision to opt-out of joint vaccine procurement would hinder vaccine availability, with The Guardian running an article titled “Brexit means coronavirus vaccine will be slower to reach the UK” in March 2020.


    In reality, as President Macron’s “Anglo-Saxons” diatribe indicates, Brexit Britain proved able to negotiate contracts for vaccine orders and approve vaccines for use much faster than the EU, with the bloc going so far as to threaten to impose a hard border between EU member-state the Republic of Ireland and the British country of Northern Ireland — something it had decreed totally unacceptable during the Brexit negotiations — in order to prevent British vaccine orders from leaving its territory.


    EU heavyweight Angela Merkel’s vice-chancellor reportedly denounced the EU’s joint procurement efforts as “really shit”, and arguably one of the most successful vaccinators in the bloc has ended up being Hungary — which was forced to go outside the EU scheme and order in doses nationally, even turning to Russian and Chinese inoculations to make up the shortfall.
    Fuck the frog.. let him buy from China. To be sure they deal with China a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    Macron starting to sound a lot like Trudeau. I say with friends like the French and Canadians.....who needs enemies? The USA needs to understand that neither France nor Canada are our friend. They only like us when they want something. That's the way that I see it.



    Macron Accuses ‘the Anglo-Saxons’ in UK and U.S. of Hoarding Vaccines



    President Emmanuel Macron turned to rhetoric fit for the Napoleonic era in his latest attempt to deflect blame for French and EU inoculation programme failures, accusing “the Anglo-Saxons” of hoarding vaccines and vaccine ingredients.


    “Today, the Anglo-Saxons block many of these ingredients and vaccines,” alleged the staunch European Union loyalist as he arrived in Porto, Portugal, for a meeting of the head of the unelected European Commission with the heads of state and government of the EU member-states to discuss bloc-wide social policy.


    “Today, 100 per cent of the vaccines produced in the United States are for the American market,” he further claimed, in comments reported by Agence France-Presse via Le Point on Friday.


    However, the veracity of President Macron’s allegations notwithstanding, the European Union has not been especially selfless in its own treatment of “the Anglo-Saxons” — a term used by the French to refer to the British, the Americans, or the Anglosphere in general — with the French backing Italy’s seizure of AstraZeneca vaccines which had been produced under contract for Australia in March, for example.



    Many anti-Brexiteers in the UK and the British media landscape had contended near the start of the Chinese coronavirus pandemic that the British government’s decision to opt-out of joint vaccine procurement would hinder vaccine availability, with The Guardian running an article titled “Brexit means coronavirus vaccine will be slower to reach the UK” in March 2020.


    In reality, as President Macron’s “Anglo-Saxons” diatribe indicates, Brexit Britain proved able to negotiate contracts for vaccine orders and approve vaccines for use much faster than the EU, with the bloc going so far as to threaten to impose a hard border between EU member-state the Republic of Ireland and the British country of Northern Ireland — something it had decreed totally unacceptable during the Brexit negotiations — in order to prevent British vaccine orders from leaving its territory.


    EU heavyweight Angela Merkel’s vice-chancellor reportedly denounced the EU’s joint procurement efforts as “really shit”, and arguably one of the most successful vaccinators in the bloc has ended up being Hungary — which was forced to go outside the EU scheme and order in doses nationally, even turning to Russian and Chinese inoculations to make up the shortfall.




    And if the Vichy French government and people had the skills, knowledge and funding to develop a vaccine on their own, they too would be seeing to their own citizens first. Someone needs to explain to macrame, I mean Macron that jealousy has no place in world politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    Most states with the strictest COVID lockdowns destroyed millions of jobs for their citizens, while those with modest, targeted rules are largely experiencing low levels of unemployment even for normal times. Strict states ruined livelihoods — without saving lives

    ... those states with the strictest lockdowns also had the most populous states in the union. So, of course, there are going to be more consequences if they did not want their hospital systems to overrun capacity. This story is written with an editorial style that does not consider other conclusions. This story has bias and is trying to make a political point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    Florida’s theme parks are starting to ease up on pandemic safety measures put in place when they reopened last summer, including temperature screenings and social distancing in outdoor spaces.

    Face masks are still required and crowds are being limited, but Universal, Disney, SeaWorld and Busch Gardens have all announced they will stop screening visitors for temperature before entry. Last month, Dr. Raul Pino, who heads the Florida Department of Health office in Orange County, said he didn’t think the practice was necessary.

    ... I would not be keen to visit anywhere in the USA at least for another year even after being fully vaccinated.

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