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    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    According to the latest FBI Expanded Homicide Data Table released (calendar year 2019) people of color are far more likely to die at the hands of other people of color. FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 6
    You cherry picked one Table of 29 to make you point that would take an expert to understand.

    Last year in the USA for many years in a row approx 33,000 people died due to guns. 19,000 were homicides and the rest were suicides.

    This year, many Americans have experienced significantly higher levels of violence both wrought on and within their communities. Gun violence and gun crime has, in particular, risen drastically, with over 19,000 people killed in shootings and firearm-related incidents in 2020. That’s the highest death toll in over 20 years, according to data from the Gun Violence Archive (GVA), an online site that collects gun violence data, and the Britannia Group’s non-partisan site procon.org.

    This total includes victims of homicides and unintentional deaths but does not include gun suicides. And despite there being no “large-scale” shootings in 2020, the number of mass shootings—which are classified as an incident in which four or more people are shot and injured or killed—has actually risen, drastically, to over 600, the most in the past 5 years and a nearly 50% increase in 2019’s total.

    Much of this violence has most significantly impacted poor Black and brown communities, exacerbating disparities already apparent in historical patterns. (Within inner-city minority communities that deal with high levels of gun violence, it’s not uncommon for there to be multiple shooting victims at one particular incident.) According to Everytown for Gun Safety, a non-profit organization that advocates for stricter gun laws, Black Americans make up 68% of homicide victims in larger cities, many of them victims of gun violence.

    “Poor people of color are suffering disproportionately from COVID, suffering from excessive and deadly force from police and suffering from excessively high rates of violence. Those are all concentrated on the very same population,” Thomas Abt, the Director of the National Commission on COVID-19 and Criminal Justice (NCCCJ) tells TIME.

    According to a report from the NCCCJ, homicides increased by 36% across 28 major U.S. cities—including Los Angeles, Atlanta, Detroit and Philadelphia—between June and October 2020, when compared to the same time period last year. Per the GVA, 2020’s total gun homicides had, by the end of October, already exceeded that of the past four years. Many commentators have pointed to an uptick in violence apparent since May, following widespread protesting and unrest following the killing of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer, but experts make it clear the upward trend was apparent from the beginning of the year.

    According to Patrick Sharkey, professor of sociology and public affairs at Princeton, 75 of the 100 largest cities in the country saw an increase in fatal shootings in the first quarter of 2020. “All the sources of data tell us that, right from the start of 2020, it’s been a year with very high violence,” Sharkey tells TIME. “There has been a real increase since May, but there was change going on before that.”

    In Chicago, 3,237 shooting incidents have occurred as of Dec. 27, an increase ofover 50% from the 2,120 incidents reported in the same time frame in 2019. The city also saw a 55% increase in homicides. New York City has had 1,824 shooting victims this year as of Dec. 20, compared to 896 in the same time period last year, and a 39% increase in homicides year on year—the New York Times reporting that 2020 has been the city’s deadliest in “nearly a decade.” (Local news reports out of Philadelphia and Charlotte, N.C., meanwhile, confirm that the cities have each seen the most homicides this year since the 1990s.)

    In Minneapolis, where Floyd was killed, there has been a 77% increase in murders.

    “I think the best way to describe what’s happened in terms of violent crime is [as] sort of a perfect storm,” Abt says. Social distancing guidelines and stay-at-home orders implemented to curb the spread of coronavirus have curtailed the work of violence interrupters and gun violence prevention activists in many inner-city neighborhoods, for example, and limited the potential for mental health outreach, social programs and conflict de-escalation initiatives.

    But experts also cite systemic issues long apparent in disenfranchised communities—a lack of opportunities, access to suitable education, food and healthcare—as causative factors, as well as widespread perceptions that police departments have stepped back from their responsibilities in response to this year’s racial justice protests.

    “Officers are afraid to do anything because they don’t want to make a mistake and get in trouble,” a New York Police Department sergeant, speaking recently with THE CITY, explained of his colleagues. “They’re afraid to stick their neck out to do anything because they don’t want to get fired.”

    2020 has also been a record-breaking year when it comes to Americans buying firearms. And there is fear amongst activists and experts that this violence will continue in 2021 unless evidence-based, community-led initiatives that can quell the problems are enacted. Sustained financial investment within communities that face daily gun violence is seen by many as the most necessary first step.

    “Gun violence is a problem that is really hard to deal with. It’s hard for social service agencies to deal with, it’s hard for other community organizations to deal with. Let’s emphasize the investment needed for an alternative model
    built around residents and community organizations,” Sharkey says. “That should be the starting point.

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    A message from Amazon:

    Since 2009:
    - Food and beverage costs have increased by 18%
    - Transportation costs have increased by 16%
    - Housing costs have increased by 23%
    - Medical costs have increased by 32%
    - The $7.25 federal minimum wage has increased by 0%

    Amazon’s $15 an hour starting wage helps employees provide for their families and boosts local economies.

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    A fast food worker will make $15 per hour. A copier tech will make what per hour? $15?

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    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    A copier tech will make what per hour? $15?
    Maybe a really bad one

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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    Maybe a really bad one
    If a Burger King worker gets paid $15, how much should a copier tech make? Give me a number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    Maybe a really bad one
    all depends on where you work also.

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    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    A fast food worker will make $15 per hour. A copier tech will make what per hour? $15?
    Is that what you make
    Make you should ask for a raise

    The state of Mississippi doesn't have a minimum wage, so the federal minimum wage governs what workers are paid unless you're exempt from the minimum wage under federal law. The current federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. That equates to about $15,000 a year.

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    I think we all agree that a copier tech is worth much more than a burger flipper. Can we agree on that?

    Can we agree that a copier tech is worth 3x as much as a McDonald's worker?

    That means that a copier tech should start out at $45 per hour.

    Does that sound about right to you guys?

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    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    If a Burger King worker gets paid $15, how much should a copier tech make? Give me a number.
    I don't know about the US, but in Canada you should expect to be paid between $22 and $30 /hr

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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    I don't know about the US, but in Canada you should expect to be paid between $22 and $30 /hr


    How much does a fast food worker make in Canada? $15?

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