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    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

    Quote Originally Posted by copiertec View Post
    Pretty soon, if not already, persons working in fast food will be replaced with automation. If you look long term, it will be much cheaper to have robotic automation then to have to worry about sick days, slip and fall lawsuits, health care, etc. Most fast food restaurants already skip around healthcare insurance by not giving the employee a full 40 hours a week.
    I'm sure this is debatable, but look at what happened to the auto industry, robotics replaced many, if not all, the unionized jobs. Workers were making a killing and taking advantage of the system in place, but most car companies found automation to be a much more cost effective long term alternative. I believe it is just a matter of a few years and most of those fast food employees will be replaced by robotic automation.
    Labor shortages are accelerating automation in the fast food industry | Fortune
    This is what I was talking about. We have a few near me where you can't order at the counter, you need to use the kiosk. Saves them money in 2 ways, first by not needing someone to take your order (though they sometimes needs someone to run the register), second, by not having wrong orders, if you entered it and confirmed it you can't claim they got it wrong. There are already machines that can make burgers from raw materials, automating the fry station is almost childs play, same with drinks. Soon that restaurant that employs 10-12 people per shift will be employing 3-4, albeit more highly compensated, feeding the machines and handing food out the window (if that isn't also automated, it could easily be, optical recognition of the vehicle, etc.).

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    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

    Quote Originally Posted by copiertec View Post
    Pretty soon, if not already, persons working in fast food will be replaced with automation. If you look long term, it will be much cheaper to have robotic automation then to have to worry about sick days, slip and fall lawsuits, health care, etc. Most fast food restaurants already skip around healthcare insurance by not giving the employee a full 40 hours a week.
    I'm sure this is debatable, but look at what happened to the auto industry, robotics replaced many, if not all, the unionized jobs. Workers were making a killing and taking advantage of the system in place, but most car companies found automation to be a much more cost effective long term alternative. I believe it is just a matter of a few years and most of those fast food employees will be replaced by robotic automation.
    Labor shortages are accelerating automation in the fast food industry | Fortune
    It is not just labor shortages and worries about sick days, slip and fall lawsuits, health care, etc. In Democrat ran states like here in California it is ridiculous increases in the minimum wage.

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    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

    Quote Originally Posted by copiertec View Post
    Pretty soon, if not already, persons working in fast food will be replaced with automation. If you look long term, it will be much cheaper to have robotic automation then to have to worry about sick days, slip and fall lawsuits, health care, etc. Most fast food restaurants already skip around healthcare insurance by not giving the employee a full 40 hours a week.
    I'm sure this is debatable, but look at what happened to the auto industry, robotics replaced many, if not all, the unionized jobs. Workers were making a killing and taking advantage of the system in place, but most car companies found automation to be a much more cost effective long term alternative. I believe it is just a matter of a few years and most of those fast food employees will be replaced by robotic automation.
    Labor shortages are accelerating automation in the fast food industry | Fortune

    The minimum wage has little to do with this though. If it did there would be zero self checkouts in Mississippi because the very low minimum wage would discourage companies from installing them. Robotics and self checkouts have more to do with corporate greed than an increase in minimum wage.
    Last edited by copier addict; 09-26-2022 at 05:28 PM.

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    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    The minimum wage has little to do with this though. If it did there would be zero self checkouts in Mississippi because the very low minimum wage would discourage companies from installing them. Robotics and self checkouts have more to do with corporate greed than an increase in minimum wage.
    Man, you need to stop. You know those new EV's that you love so much? They'll all be assembled by robots eventually. Also, your menatility towards business is why you'll never run or own one. You will always be a consumer and never a producer. But you know that already.
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    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    Man, you need to stop. You know those new EV's that you love so much? They'll all be assembled by robots eventually. Also, your menatility towards business is why you'll never run or own one. You will always be a consumer and never a producer. But you know that already.

    Is this your way of saying I'm correct? Thanks so much Billy. It means so little. Lol

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    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCarpenter View Post
    No, you support a party that wants to tax business out the ass and then control them by vilifying them in the press and making them out to be monsters. Take you for example, you believe big pharma is evil. Yet, they've saved more lives than socialized medicine....which you love and is failing in Canada.
    It's still the party that voted to fight corruption while you support the party that embraces corruption.
    Taxes for corporations aren't bad. Before JFK the corporate tax was over 50%. You can whine about it but:

    The US economy has performed better when the president of the United States is a Democrat rather than a Republican, almost regardless of how one measures performance.
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    Big pharma is greedy, not evil. If you actually listen to what Democrats say about Big pharma you'd know this.

    Also, 29 out of 30 of the richest countries on this planet have socialized medicine. Guess which one doesn't? Do you want to know why?
    In case you haven't noticed healthcare everywhere is failing. Everyone I know has some story about having to wait several months just to see a doctor, then being rushed through. They tell me about waiting 4 or 6 hours in the ER only to be kicked out to make room for covid patients.

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    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    It is not just labor shortages and worries about sick days, slip and fall lawsuits, health care, etc. In Democrat ran states like here in California it is ridiculous increases in the minimum wage.
    McD's in Denmark pays an average of $22/hr + 6 weeks of vacation. Burgers there are under $5.

    The idea raising the minimum wage will cause any issues is ridiculous.

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    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

    Quote Originally Posted by D_L_P View Post
    McD's in Denmark pays an average of $22/hr + 6 weeks of vacation. Burgers there are under $5.

    The idea raising the minimum wage will cause any issues is ridiculous.

    Denmark is barely a country. Where are you from?
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    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

    Quote Originally Posted by D_L_P View Post
    McD's in Denmark pays an average of $22/hr + 6 weeks of vacation. Burgers there are under $5.

    The idea raising the minimum wage will cause any issues is ridiculous.
    You mean that they pay $4.99 for a burger that I have to pay $1.94 for here in California. And that is the jacked up price that delivery services charge. Doesn't sound like much of a bargain to me.

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    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

    Tax Rate in Denmark:


    0- 57k - 27%

    more than 57k - 42%


    And now you know the rest of the story.
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