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  • BillyCarpenter
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    Should the Dept. of Education be eliminated?

    It's pretty clear that public schools have failed kids for a long time and that a radical leftwing agenda is being taught. Moreover, even Biden himself admitted that black and brown people aren't graduating high school.


    he said in televised remarks.
    I ran across an interesting article this morning on Politico in which they talked about democrats losing to republicans on this issue. It's a good read. Check it out.



    GOP wins and a crisis in schooling has convinced some Democrats that the Biden administration needs to promote a liberal version of public school choice.




    Political skirmishes over classrooms have left Democrats underwater, or dead even, with Republicans among voters in a clutch of battleground states. And as they worried their party has not honed a strategy to reverse declining test scores, enrollment and trust in public schools, liberals watched Republican governors sign historic private school choice laws this year.



    The GOP wins and a generational crisis in schooling has convinced some Democrats that the Biden administration needs to promote a liberal version of public school choice in the 2024 campaign, or risk losing votes.













    National Parents Union
    Public schools are confronting significant post-Covid enrollment shifts to private and home schools. Policies that grant students access to school options beyond their traditional neighborhood campus are popular. That has left Cardona to protect the schoolhouse castle, navigate longstanding disagreements between labor unions and liberal education reform groups, and advance a distinctive Democratic vision of education that appeals to families and voters.




    Republican governors in Arkansas, Iowa, Ohio, Florida and elsewhere are now presiding over major expansions of programs that give families public subsidies to pay for private school tuition and other education expenses. Oklahoma officials are also leading a campaign to open explicitly religious public schools, which some church leaders and conservative advocates see as a monumental leap for school choice and religious liberty.
    Public school enrollment meanwhile dropped by 3 percent in the first year of the coronavirus pandemic, a plunge of some 1.4 million students. There are also signs liberals have failed to regain the broad trust on education they once held with voters.
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    Democrats are either trailing or essentially tied with Republicans among voters in four battleground states when it comes to which party is trusted to ensure public schools prepare students for life after graduation, according to polling during mid-July in North Carolina, Arizona, Georgia and Nevada. Roughly half of voters and parents in those states said their schools were about the same or worse since before the pandemic.



    After all, American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten said in an interview, an idea like building a massive regional career tech education center would require new inter-district student transfer policies.


    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/17/education-democrats-school-choice-cardona-biden-00116385
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    It should also be noted that democrats have blocked school choice at every turn. Only now that they're losing are they interested in changing. They don't care about your kids, only maintaining power.
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      Republican politicians absolutely love poorly education people. Even trumpy said it out loud.

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        Originally posted by copier addict
        Republican politicians absolutely love poorly education people. Even trumpy said it out loud.
        According to Biden, that would Hispanics and Blacks. I agree that Trump did more for both than Obama or Biden.
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          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
          According to Biden, that would Hispanics and Blacks. I agree that Trump did more for both than Obama or Biden.

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            Originally posted by copier addict
            Poor education does not follow race lines, Mr Woke.
            Why are you saying this to me? It was Biden that said it? I forget, you don't like to criticize Uncle Joe.
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              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
              Why are you saying this to me? It was Biden that said it? I forget, you don't like to criticize Uncle Joe.

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                Try to stay on topic. Why did you addresss that to me when it was Biden that said Blacks and Hispanics are poorly educated?
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                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                  Try to stay on topic. Why did you addresss that to me when it was Biden that said Blacks and Hispanics are poorly educated?
                  Haha.
                  Your history shows that anytime you can bring race into a thread, you will. And not in a well meaning way.

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                    Originally posted by copier addict
                    Haha.
                    Your history shows that anytime you can bring race into a thread, you will. And not in a well meaning way.
                    So, you won't even acknowledge that Uncle Joe said that Blacks and Hispanics are poorly educated? Not surprising.
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                      On another note, it would make sense to me that Biden and democrats want to keep the most disadvantaged kids in the same failing schools and not offer them a choice. They will grow up uneducated and more easily duped by those that kept them in the failing schools.
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                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        So, you won't even acknowledge that Uncle Joe said that Blacks and Hispanics are poorly educated? Not surprising.

                        Sorry, I didn't realise you needed my acknowledgement. Yes, Biden implied in a speech that black, Hispanic and veteran workers lacked high school diplomas.
                        All better now?

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                          Originally posted by copier addict
                          Sorry, I didn't realise you needed my acknowledgement. Yes, Biden implied in a speech that black, Hispanic and veteran workers lacked high school diplomas.
                          All better now?
                          That's a start. Is he right? Any criticism of that statement by Biden that you claim that you're well known for?
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                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                            That's a start. Is he right? Any criticism of that statement by Biden that you claim that you're well known for?
                            Huh??

                            How would I know if he is right?
                            All I know for sure is that republican politicians hate public education because they know that people with less education tend to vote along conservative lines.

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                              Originally posted by copier addict
                              Huh??

                              How would I know if he is right?
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                              You seemed to know a few posts back when you said this: "Poor education does not follow race lines, Mr Woke." - copier addict

                              By the way, you're wrong about that and shouldn't make that statement when it's not backed up by facts.


                              Asian Americans had the highest educational attainment of any race, followed by whites who had a higher percentage of high school graduates but a lower percentage of college graduates. Persons identifying as Hispanic or Latino, without regard to race, had the lowest educational attainment.

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