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    Re: Speed/processor performance

    Quote Originally Posted by SteinarN View Post
    Thanks for a ton of good suggestions!
    Thank you for providing ZERO indication that you've actually tried any of the good suggestions.
    We're already well aware that your printing is slow.

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    Re: Speed/processor performance

    Tested printing out from the original file, one page, the same test page, with Acrobat. I only have the free Acrobat Reader version.
    Acrobat only sends 6,7MB to the printer, takes about 20s to send data, thereafter printout starts immediately. So, a HUGE difference between Foxit reader and Acrobat reader!

    I tested saving the file as. No difference when printing out with Foxit from the new file.

    I dont think I have a raster/vector, at least I dont know where to find it
    I dont have post script either.
    FW/software is up to date.
    I don't have full version Acrobat.

    Havent tested with the PCL6 yet, will have a look at that later.

    Edit. My "Save the file as" could not make any difference I now realise, as I only gave the file a new name. Would need full Acrobat to do as suggested.

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    Re: Speed/processor performance

    Quote Originally Posted by sandmanmac View Post
    Thank you for providing ZERO indication that you've actually tried any of the good suggestions.
    We're already well aware that your printing is slow.
    In order to accurately judge results from testing any of your good suggestions I needed to establish the baseline, which page is slow printing, how slow, how much data etc.
    Last edited by SteinarN; 4 Weeks Ago at 06:58 PM.

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    Re: Speed/processor performance

    Quote Originally Posted by sandmanmac View Post
    If you let windows install the printer automatically, it installs the printer using the WSD port, rather than TCP/IP.
    WSD is ALWAYS desperately slow -particularly with PDf's
    I have installed the driver manually. It is using TCP/IP.

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    Re: Speed/processor performance

    I found the Vector/Raster setting. Was set to Vector, changed to Raster.
    With Foxit the test page data went down from 111MB to 26MB.
    My pc needed 23s to compute the page/data, then 1min to send the data to the printer, printout started immediately thereafter.
    This is with Foxit.

    So, still very slow.

    Acrobat with raster set takes 10s to compute, then 35s to send to printer, print starts thereafter. Data reduced from 6,7MB to 6,1MB.
    So, Acrobat with raster set seems to be slower than with vector set. Vector takes only 2-3s to compute and between 20-25s to send data.

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    Re: Speed/processor performance

    Quote Originally Posted by SteinarN View Post
    I found the Vector/Raster setting. Was set to Vector, changed to Raster.
    With Foxit the test page data went down from 111MB to 26MB.
    My pc needed 23s to compute the page/data, then 1min to send the data to the printer, printout started immediately thereafter.
    This is with Foxit.

    So, still very slow.

    Acrobat with raster set takes 10s to compute, then 35s to send to printer, print starts thereafter. Data reduced from 6,7MB to 6,1MB.
    So, Acrobat with raster set seems to be slower than with vector set. Vector takes only 2-3s to compute and between 20-25s to send data.
    I think your expectations are a little high for this 15yr old printer?
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    Re: Speed/processor performance

    So far I think I can say there is several different variables in play. This particular file/files is provided to me, there is nothing I can do like download again etc. I want to print out at highest quality so those printer settings are also set.
    But still there are seemingly several other variables, the most influential found so far seems to be the Foxit reader which is not good at all printing those spesific graphics. Acrobat is much better. Raster set makes Foxit faster but still much slower than Acrobat. Raster set with Acrobat seems to be slower than with Vector set.

    Several of the options mentioned is unavailable to me, like Post script, full Acrobat, file editing etc.

    What is remains to be tested is the PCL6 driver.

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    Re: Speed/processor performance

    Quote Originally Posted by copier tech View Post
    I think your expectations are a little high for this 15yr old printer?
    Hmm, not really.
    I know max ppm are only 20, at highest DPI/quality it goes down to about 11ppm with A4LEF, at A4SEF it is down to about 9ppm.

    But, I wasnt expecting 1-2ppm for a significant portion of that 1.500 page manual I printed yesterday, that I do admit
    However it might seem that the printer wasn't the only one at fault for that low speed.

    And it is "only" 8 years old, was made in may 2013
    Last edited by SteinarN; 4 Weeks Ago at 09:00 PM. Reason: 11>8 years old

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    Re: Speed/processor performance

    Quote Originally Posted by sandmanmac View Post
    If you let windows install the printer automatically, it installs the printer using the WSD port, rather than TCP/IP.
    WSD is ALWAYS desperately slow -particularly with PDf's
    +1

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    Re: Speed/processor performance

    PCL6 driver didn't make any difference either.

    I think the pdf files from this manual maybe are badly optimized or compiled or something...
    Foxit is extremely slow, Acrobat just very very slow.

    What seems to make a big difference is to somehow re-save the file. Too bad I don't have the full Acrobat version to test that further.
    However, I have saved to Cutepdf writer at 4000dpi setting (max dpi). If i try to print that pdf file out it is is MUCH faster, both with Acrobat and Foxit, with universal driver and PCL6, raster/vector.

    I can barely see any difference in the printouts. Some text do maybe get a tiny little bit fatter, slightly fuzzy schematics actually gets sharpened up a little bit. Pictures I am not able to se any difference to.

    The conclusion so far, pdf's can be a difficult file type for fast and efficient prints. For some files at higher settings with some readers it can be next to impossible to print those pdf's.
    Changing reader, and even better, resaving the files with Cutepdf writer (or Acrobat full version if I had that) seems to be the most efficient solution for at least the files in this particular manual.

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