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    Re: mp 4054 curling on the ends

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    I just downloaded the man on the bn31110, how is this going to help with the paper curling, it doesnt do anything to the lower paper exit section, can u explain how this unit will correct my jamming at the finisher?there is no extra guide or replacement roller assembly, it seems to just fit OVER the existing output assembly.. sorry for the question.
    you asked "Is there a different exit paper guide roller assmbly like on the color machine(different interchangable piece in the paper exit path just outside the fuser)I dont think there is, and i cant see where there would be one, but as it stands the pics say it all." It looks to me like this is an answer to that question...is it not?

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    Re: mp 4054 curling on the ends

    The BN3110 does not look (by the svc manual) that it would chang anything abou the curling or feed into the finisher section, im asking if the BN3110 alters the paper path in anyway so as to not curl as it enters the internal finisher

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    Re: mp 4054 curling on the ends

    in this picture the bottom is where the paper would enter the internal finisherD692_BN3110(sm).jpg i see no difference hence the paper would still curl upon exiting the fuser as in the photos on the first page

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    Re: mp 4054 curling on the ends

    Quote Originally Posted by digicor View Post
    The BN3110 does not look (by the svc manual) that it would chang anything abou the curling or feed into the finisher section, im asking if the BN3110 alters the paper path in anyway so as to not curl as it enters the internal finisher
    Other than the fact that it does not use the same path as used to enter the finisher. It uses the path as the duplex only instead of stopping and reversing the paper as soon as the trail edge clears the duplex path sensor, it ads another set of rollers that carry the page on out into the internal bin. If you have the service manual for the MP 4054 see the third page of Section 1.1.2 Paper Path in the Product Overview. Page 1-5 in my copy of the service manual.

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    Re: mp 4054 curling on the ends

    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    Other than the fact that it does not use the same path as used to enter the finisher. It uses the path as the duplex only instead of stopping and reversing the paper as soon as the trail edge clears the duplex path sensor, it ads another set of rollers that carry the page on out into the internal bin. If you have the service manual see the third page of Section 1.1.2 Paper Path in the Product Overview. Page 1.5 in my copy of the service manual.
    Im sorry slimslob, I have an issue with it entering the finisher,, i dont need an extra exit choice,such as the internal bin, or am i miss understanding your intention here?, sorry for the confusion on my part.

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    Re: mp 4054 curling on the ends

    Quote Originally Posted by digicor View Post
    in this picture the bottom is where the paper would enter the internal finisherD692_BN3110(sm).jpg i see no difference hence the paper would still curl upon exiting the fuser as in the photos on the first page
    When entering the 1 bin tray or the duplex reversing tray, the paper comes out near the top. The arm hanging down is the tray full detect for the 1 bin tray. The 4 small rollers are where the paper exits to enter the internal finisher, the bridge unit or the standard exit tray.

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    Re: mp 4054 curling on the ends

    The 4 small rollers are where the paper exits to enter the internal finisher, the bridge unit or the standard exit tray.
    yes , this is where its getting jammed due to the curling, so i was wondering if there was a guide missing or something needed to be changed as in the color machine when u add or subtract a finisher..
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    Re: mp 4054 curling on the ends

    Quote Originally Posted by digicor View Post
    Im sorry slimslob, I have an issue with it entering the finisher,, i dont need an extra exit choice,such as the internal bin, or am i miss understanding your intention here?, sorry for the confusion on my part.
    No, I thought that your were referring to the side tray available on some models.

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    Re: mp 4054 curling on the ends

    Quote Originally Posted by digicor View Post
    see photos...
    I have this machine doind this curling on the edges, therefore causing jamming into the internal finsher..Is there a different exit paper guide roller assmbly like on the color machine(different interchangable piece in the paper exit path just outside the fuser)I dont think there is, and i cant see where there would be one, but as it stands the pics say it all. The machine has 28k on it, but I think the fusing press roller is faulty. please advise, is there a pressure adjustment on this? none im am aware of,,, or is it just bad press roller.
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    Re: mp 4054 curling on the ends

    yes, even though the client is using cheap paper, i sent some paper i had that was good quality, through it, same thing, it looks like the pressure roller is either putting too much pressure in the middle or the ends are not pressing with enough pressure , im not real sure, and i dont have another fuser to swap with, the fuser is not "worn" by any means, it still looks new, Ive seen moisture in paper curl the whole page, not just the ends...wierd.

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