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    MPC407 sending junk over 50 pages

    I have a mp c407 sending jumbled files after 50 pages, under 50 pages its fine, a pdf, no problem,
    In batch it does the same thing , can i get any suggestions? My web service provider has no limits and if it did it would bounce back
    Thank you for any ideas
    example
    :yhyhyhyhyhyhyhyhyhyhyhyhzjlDnHOOccococ45Q5xwSQQTCYTCYTCYTCwgmCSI6I+R8joj
    5HRHyPpaTOOYcEkEEwmE0EE00EE01tNbWGUcqaEyCJFcVxQZQQrERCZQwEggtUgkkkkEkggt
    JJEfiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiwQiIiIiIiIiIiIi
    Ii0LK8JhMJppLa2kndBBBNXpBBIJJIIJpIILSQSCCC0gkEF6QQW0kEFpJJJJBBaQQWkEFukR
    2kCC0ggmrSSCQSBBbVVtJBJJJJJJBIJBJBJ1QQSCQSppBJJBAqPJBJJIJAgVBJIJBIJJKggT
    tIIErdhIJBBWoSCSQQSQQSSQQKkgkEFd3DCQSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSC
    SQThpKt20ggr1SCQSCSSQQW0gkEkGgwkggmgRQ4SBIJJhaQQTQQTCaCCYJIIJoECSCCYWkCB
    JEdEfI8kXRHwgmcc45xzjnHKHKHKHKHKHKHOOcc45xzjlDnHOOccw5xzjkxyxyMcmOYcw5hz
    DnHOOccmOcc45CjkUc45hwSRHyPEeI+R8jxHyPAgsjyRHwSI7I8R9IjxHyPkcyOaRHkiPkcH
    CQQTOOYcEkCC2ggmggmtpJJpJ5LowidYiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiI
    iIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIkdAgQiIiIsIRFIRSYTCFlUSSSTCFJJJghYIdJpJLSS

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    Re: MPC407 sending junk over 50 pages

    If by sending you mean scan to email, try scanning to folder. Check the size of the scanned file. My guess is that it will be larger than the maximum size set for scan to email file and divide and send is enabled. Divide and send only work properly when sending to a Microsoft office through a Microsoft server. Otherwise the you get garbage as you describe. In the early days of the internet most email providers allowed a maximum attachment size of 2.5MB and most MFP used to default to that setting and many still do. Most email providers now allow a maximum size of 10MB with some as large as 25MB. If you need to send something larger, like a service manual, it needs to be done as a link to a cloud service such as Google Drive, gmail does it for you automatically based on attachment size.

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    Re: MPC407 sending junk over 50 pages

    Quote Originally Posted by digicor View Post
    I have a mp c407 sending jumbled files after 50 pages, under 50 pages its fine, a pdf, no problem,
    In batch it does the same thing , can i get any suggestions? My web service provider has no limits and if it did it would bounce back
    Thank you for any ideas
    example
    :yhyhyhyhyhyhyhyhyhyhyhyhzjlDnHOOccococ45Q5xwSQQTCYTCYTCYTCwgmCSI6I+R8joj
    5HRHyPpaTOOYcEkEEwmE0EE00EE01tNbWGUcqaEyCJFcVxQZQQrERCZQwEggtUgkkkkEkggt
    JJEfiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiwQiIiIiIiIiIiIi
    Ii0LK8JhMJppLa2kndBBBNXpBBIJJIIJpIILSQSCCC0gkEF6QQW0kEFpJJJJBBaQQWkEFukR
    2kCC0ggmrSSCQSBBbVVtJBJJJJJJBIJBJBJ1QQSCQSppBJJBAqPJBJJIJAgVBJIJBIJJKggT
    tIIErdhIJBBWoSCSQQSQQSSQQKkgkEFd3DCQSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSC
    SQThpKt20ggr1SCQSCSSQQW0gkEkGgwkggmgRQ4SBIJJhaQQTQQTCaCCYJIIJoECSCCYWkCB
    JEdEfI8kXRHwgmcc45xzjnHKHKHKHKHKHKHOOcc45xzjlDnHOOccw5xzjkxyxyMcmOYcw5hz
    DnHOOccmOcc45CjkUc45hwSRHyPEeI+R8jxHyPAgsjyRHwSI7I8R9IjxHyPkcyOaRHkiPkcH
    CQQTOOYcEkCC2ggmggmtpJJpJ5LowidYiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiI
    iIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIiIkdAgQiIiIsIRFIRSYTCFlUSSSTCFJJJghYIdJpJLSS
    Looks like you have posted this question twice.

    This is a common issue & usually a quick fix.

    If this is a gmail scanning issue check file size is set to MAX/OFF & update the firmware.



    Last edited by copier tech; 12-30-2021 at 09:24 PM.
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    Re: MPC407 sending junk over 50 pages

    Set Max Email size to off in scanner features / Send settings.
    Default is set to 2046Kb on all machines, which is obviously 'stoopid'.
    It's one of the steps in my pre-delivery to disable it.

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    Re: MPC407 sending junk over 50 pages

    yeah i did that, thanks I have FMware for tuesday install ill update Thanks

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    Re: MPC407 sending junk over 50 pages

    Quote Originally Posted by sandmanmac View Post
    Set Max Email size to off in scanner features / Send settings.
    Default is set to 2046Kb on all machines, which is obviously 'stoopid'.
    It's one of the steps in my pre-delivery to disable it.
    Really Ricoh? It's heartbreaking me now when I almost can imagine shift from great KM machines to great Ricoh machines. Lol 🤣
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    Re: MPC407 sending junk over 50 pages

    Quote Originally Posted by tsbservice View Post
    Really Ricoh? It's heartbreaking me now when I almost can imagine shift from great KM machines to great Ricoh machines. Lol 🤣
    If the email provider has a low limit, emails that are too large will be dropped, often without notifying you. I had a customer who was a large RV dealership. When they first got internet they tried email their weekly ad sheet to the local newspaper, they used to drive them by. The newspaper was not getting them. I did some checking and the ad sheets were about 2.7MB and the SMTP server they were using only allowed 2MB. And this was before scan to email was available, they were sending from their computer using Outlook.And therein was the reason for Ricoh setting their Max Email size to 2048 KB which is 2 MB. After that they just forgot about it as email providers started increasing their limit,first to 5MB then to 10MB with most now at 25MB. In house Microsoft Exchange can be set to no limit but not good for bandwidth on the internet.

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    Re: MPC407 sending junk over 50 pages

    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    If the email provider has a low limit, emails that are too large will be dropped, often without notifying you. I had a customer who was a large RV dealership. When they first got internet they tried email their weekly ad sheet to the local newspaper, they used to drive them by. The newspaper was not getting them. I did some checking and the ad sheets were about 2.7MB and the SMTP server they were using only allowed 2MB. And this was before scan to email was available, they were sending from their computer using Outlook.And therein was the reason for Ricoh setting their Max Email size to 2048 KB which is 2 MB. After that they just forgot about it as email providers started increasing their limit,first to 5MB then to 10MB with most now at 25MB. In house Microsoft Exchange can be set to no limit but not good for bandwidth on the internet.
    I hear you wiseman and you're constantly pushing me ahead as your knowledge and experience are vastly appreciated. It just wondered me in this case how old fashioned may be R&D Ricoh engineering team but from my experience those great Japanese engineers are really hard hats.
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    Re: MPC407 sending junk over 50 pages

    Quote Originally Posted by tsbservice View Post
    I hear you wiseman and you're constantly pushing me ahead as your knowledge and experience are vastly appreciated. It just wondered me in this case how old fashioned may be R&D Ricoh engineering team but from my experience those great Japanese engineers are really hard hats.
    They just expect service tech to be intelligent enough to change the setting like Sandy.

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    Re: MPC407 sending junk over 50 pages

    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    If the email provider has a low limit, emails that are too large will be dropped, often without notifying you. I had a customer who was a large RV dealership. When they first got internet they tried email their weekly ad sheet to the local newspaper, they used to drive them by. The newspaper was not getting them. I did some checking and the ad sheets were about 2.7MB and the SMTP server they were using only allowed 2MB. And this was before scan to email was available, they were sending from their computer using Outlook.And therein was the reason for Ricoh setting their Max Email size to 2048 KB which is 2 MB. After that they just forgot about it as email providers started increasing their limit,first to 5MB then to 10MB with most now at 25MB. In house Microsoft Exchange can be set to no limit but not good for bandwidth on the internet.
    Yes back in the day 2048KB was was enough however most providers support 10MB & gmail now 20MB which is sufficient for 50+ colour pages @ 300dpi.

    The later Ricoh models have excellent PDF compression settings I have started changing this on every install to 'higher compression' clients can now scan 100's of pages into one PDF if required.
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