FS-533 "Remove paper from finisher tray"

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  • altech
    Technician
    • Jul 2014
    • 41

    #1

    FS-533 "Remove paper from finisher tray"

    I have an internal finisher (FS-533) that is giving a "Remove paper from finisher tray" message but there is no paper on the tray. The exit tray will move all the way to the bottom of the finisher but never return to the top. I have tried replacing the sensor and it did not resolve the issue. Any resolutions that anyone knows of?
  • Copier Addict
    Aging Tech

    Site Contributor
    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2013
    • 14355

    #2
    Re: FS-533 "Remove paper from finisher tray"

    I have found removing the internal finisher and throwing it in a dumpster solves all problems with these pieces of crap. Lol
    Sorry, I know this isn't helpful, but I couldn't resist.

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    • allan
      RTFM!!

      5,000+ Posts
      • Apr 2010
      • 5459

      #3
      Re: FS-533 "Remove paper from finisher tray"

      The actuator gets trapped by the vertical cover at the exit. File away some plastic, use more plastic and some crazy glue.

      They are all kinds of fun!
      Whatever

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      • blackcat4866
        Master Of The Obvious

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        10,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2007
        • 22927

        #4
        Re: FS-533 "Remove paper from finisher tray"

        Originally posted by allan
        The actuator gets trapped by the vertical cover at the exit. File away some plastic, use more plastic and some crazy glue.

        They are all kinds of fun!
        Now that you mention it, I've seem this too. I believe the enduser gets carried away removing a jam from the finisher. The arm you're looking for is black plastic among a bunch of other black plastic stuff. You can remove the finisher and covers to get a good look, or just peek in through the exit opening. The bottom plate of the finisher must be flexed significantly to get your arm back to where it belongs. I'll see if I saved a blurry over-dark photo from the last time it happened.

        item 19.jpg

        It's item #19 in this parts diagram, called "weight". =^..^=
        Last edited by blackcat4866; 10-08-2015, 09:03 PM.
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • allan
          RTFM!!

          5,000+ Posts
          • Apr 2010
          • 5459

          #5
          Re: FS-533 "Remove paper from finisher tray"

          Originally posted by blackcat4866
          Now that you mention it, I've seem this too. I believe the enduser gets carried away removing a jam from the finisher. The arm you're looking for is black plastic among a bunch of other black plastic stuff. You can remove the finisher and covers to get a good look, or just peek in through the exit opening. The bottom plate of the finisher must be flexed significantly to get your arm back to where it belongs. I'll see if I saved a blurry over-dark photo from the last time it happened.

          [ATTACH=CONFIG]30889[/ATTACH]

          It's item #19 in this parts diagram, called "weight". =^..^=
          Hehe that gives a permanent jam? The first time you strip it and the next time you force it back and hope you don't break anything. Like you said it takes colossal force to get it into that state.

          This i believe is another one of those Konica Minolta "specification limitations". Like with the floor standing finisher the actuator does not pop back.
          Whatever

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          • EarthKmTech
            Step aside, noob

            1,000+ Posts
            • May 2009
            • 2139

            #6
            Re: FS-533 "Remove paper from finisher tray"

            regarding the black finger that flips forward at the top centre and traps the actuator down - remove the rubber strip on it once it bunches up at the end. If left like that it will flip forward again, and again.

            On the ones I have done there have never been any detrimental effects and I've never had to do it twice.

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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2007
              • 22927

              #7
              Re: FS-533 "Remove paper from finisher tray"

              Emails never really go away, do they. These pix I retrieved from last February's sent emails. Maybe it will help somebody:
              item 19 Weight.JPGWeight3.JPGWeight4.JPGWeight in red1.JPGWeight in red2.JPG

              =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • altech
                Technician
                • Jul 2014
                • 41

                #8
                Re: FS-533 "Remove paper from finisher tray"

                Thank you for all the help. I have got the issue resolved. The actuator was trapped by the weight because the weight was facing towards the exit of the finisher instead of the rear. After resetting the weight to the proper position everything tested ok. I have seen this happen on floor finishers before and it was no problem to stick a screw driver in and flip it back but for some reason this one just didn't want to budge at all and we didn't have another FS-533 to compare it to.

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                • blackcat4866
                  Master Of The Obvious

                  Site Contributor
                  10,000+ Posts
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 22927

                  #9
                  Re: FS-533 "Remove paper from finisher tray"

                  Congratulations on your success. =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • KMFLT3CH
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • May 2017
                    • 207

                    #10
                    Re: FS-533 "Remove paper from finisher tray"

                    I had this issue on two different machines within a few years time, both machines did not have any issue with the finger/weight mentioned above. What fixed it for me was replacing the two sensors circled in the picture. Both are part # A2YUPPT800

                    fs533-removepaper.jpg

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