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  • bsm2
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    #2056
    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Originally posted by gneebore
    Oh right it wasn't from the proven false news outlet of CNN. Too bad it was an actual poll taken by someone to see what the effect on elections would be if they did vote. So taking the most commonly quoted figure of illegal immigrants of 15 to 20 million in the US that means anywhere from nearly 2 million to 2.6 million just from the numbers that actually admit to voting in US elections.


    The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.

    Your Hilarious

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    • gneebore
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      Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

      Okay what part do you not understand these are not permanent insurance. They are for people that need something for a short term and were completely legal before the ACA. And became legal again. They are not meant to be anything but temporary short term fill in the gap coverage for catastrophic coverage. Or is that too complicated for you to understand. It gives someone coverage until they get or find something permanent. They are not meant for some one that has a serious medical condition and probably would not be sold to them anyway. Hell if I were in my mid twenties and needed something short term and inexpensive I sure as heck would like to have this available. They actually give the people that purchase them a choice in what they can get to tide them over and not a year long expensive commitment. And too bad but they are not Trumpo plans they were in effect before Obamacare and were a heck of a good solution until someone could find what they needed or actually did get coverage from a new job. the only thing Trump did is relax the stringent overbearing regulations that Obamacare did not allow them. Probably because it gave the purchaser a choice and choice to the Obamacare advocates was not to be allowed you had to do it their way or no way and then be fined for not doing it their way.

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      • gneebore
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        #2058
        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

        Originally posted by bsm2
        The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.

        Your Hilarious
        Yes a poll is not legal proof of voter fraud never said it was legally but it is some evidence and there are other instances where illegal aliens have admitted to voting. Heck it is the reason the democrats are always fighting against proof of citizenship at the poles. mainly because even they admit that they get the support of the illegal aliens. And politically he agreed to drop the commission because no one would actually admit to voting illegally to any kind of government investigation. But a private polling firm or in other studies by some colleges found similar results to the poll. There are just as many studies that show either result either way.

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        • bsm2
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          Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

          Originally posted by gneebore
          Yes a poll is not legal proof of voter fraud never said it was legally but it is some evidence and there are other instances where illegal aliens have admitted to voting. Heck it is the reason the democrats are always fighting against proof of citizenship at the poles. mainly because even they admit that they get the support of the illegal aliens. And politically he agreed to drop the commission because no one would actually admit to voting illegally to any kind of government investigation. But a private polling firm or in other studies by some colleges found similar results to the poll. There are just as many studies that show either result either way.

          Total CRAP every state has Supervisor of elections. Your just making this crap up or what your cousin Vinny heard. Florida under Rick Scott shorted early voting WHY to reduce the vote count.
          Once again Since enactment of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, federal law has prohibited noncitizens from voting in federal elections PERIOD.
          The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.
          Should you HAVE PROOF of vote fraud contact your
          Supervisor of elections in your state. There waiting for you.
          Let us know how it works out. Call them Tuesday.

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          • gneebore
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            Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

            Originally posted by bsm2
            Total CRAP every state has Supervisor of elections. Your just making this crap up or what your cousin Vinny heard. Florida under Rick Scott shorted early voting WHY to reduce the vote count.
            Once again Since enactment of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, federal law has prohibited noncitizens from voting in federal elections PERIOD.
            The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.
            Should you HAVE PROOF of vote fraud contact your
            Supervisor of elections in your state. There waiting for you.
            Let us know how it works out. Call them Tuesday.
            Of course they vote and they use false identification which they already have anyway. They know they can get away with it because there is little to no enforcement of voter id at the election polling places. And if they actually vote then they can help elect a politician that will make it easier for them and the laws they want passed to help them even further. Every time anyone suggests there be proof of citizenship there are a whole choruses of people screaming about how discriminatory that would be. But actually asking 800 Hispanics as one pollster did he got the result as such
            "Based on a sample survey of 800 Hispanics in 2013, McLaughlin found that of foreign-born respondents who were registered voters, 13 percent admitted they were not United States citizens." Which means they were illegally voting.

            And then there is this bit of legality for California too:

            The California “Motor Voter” Law Will Allow Illegal Aliens To Vote. A California state bill was just signed in to law by Gov. Jerry Brown, that will register and allow illegal aliens to vote in US Elections. The New Motor Voter Act (A.B.1461) that is now law in California, automatically registers residents of California to vote at the DMV.

            Ah yes they are now registered to vote by the California DMV even if in the US illegally. So now they have a driver license and voter id even if they are here illegally



            And just for further information here are actual convictions of illegal aliens voting, admittedly not in the millions. But a heck of a lot when you consider that voter election id laws are not that stringently enforced anyway
            No, voter fraud isn't a myth: 10 cases where it's all too real - Washington Times

            Illegals charged for voting in presidential election - WND
            Illegal alien arrested, charged with voter fraud | ICE

            In these referenced cases the only reason they were charged was they were really conspicuous when they got caught,

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            • bsm2
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              Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

              Originally posted by gneebore
              Of course they vote and they use false identification which they already have anyway. They know they can get away with it because there is little to no enforcement of voter id at the election polling places. And if they actually vote then they can help elect a politician that will make it easier for them and the laws they want passed to help them even further. Every time anyone suggests there be proof of citizenship there are a whole choruses of people screaming about how discriminatory that would be. But actually asking 800 Hispanics as one pollster did he got the result as such
              "Based on a sample survey of 800 Hispanics in 2013, McLaughlin found that of foreign-born respondents who were registered voters, 13 percent admitted they were not United States citizens." Which means they were illegally voting.

              And then there is this bit of legality for California too:

              The California “Motor Voter” Law Will Allow Illegal Aliens To Vote. A California state bill was just signed in to law by Gov. Jerry Brown, that will register and allow illegal aliens to vote in US Elections. The New Motor Voter Act (A.B.1461) that is now law in California, automatically registers residents of California to vote at the DMV.

              Ah yes they are now registered to vote by the California DMV even if in the US illegally. So now they have a driver license and voter id even if they are here illegally



              And just for further information here are actual convictions of illegal aliens voting, admittedly not in the millions. But a heck of a lot when you consider that voter election id laws are not that stringently enforced anyway
              No, voter fraud isn't a myth: 10 cases where it's all too real - Washington Times

              Illegals charged for voting in presidential election - WND
              Illegal alien arrested, charged with voter fraud | ICE

              In these referenced cases the only reason they were charged was they were really conspicuous when they got caught,

              Once again Since enactment of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, federal law has prohibited noncitizens from voting in federal elections.


              One real site dated 03/17/2011 in LAKE COUNTY, Ill Not California and two FAKE NEWS RIGHTWING sites.

              False Claim of California Registering Noncitizens to Vote - FactCheck.org


              The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.


              Should you HAVE PROOF of voter fraud contact your Supervisor of elections in your state. There waiting for you.
              Let us know how it works out. Call them Tuesday.
              Last edited by bsm2; 09-01-2019, 10:10 AM.

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              • gneebore
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                #2062
                Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                Originally posted by bsm2
                Once again Since enactment of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, federal law has prohibited noncitizens from voting in federal elections.


                One real site dated 03/17/2011 in LAKE COUNTY, Ill Not California and two FAKE NEWS RIGHTWING sites.

                False Claim of California Registering Noncitizens to Vote - FactCheck.org


                The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.


                Should you HAVE PROOF of voter fraud contact your Supervisor of elections in your state. There waiting for you.
                Let us know how it works out. Call them Tuesday.
                Oh yeah it is against federal law so someone that is here illegally is going to follow all laws. Just for your information . In Jan 2015 California assembly bill 60 became law. That law allowed any illegal resident to get a California drivers license as a citizen of California. Later the same year in Oct Gov Brown signed into law the Motor Voter Act that automatically registers every eligible citizen that goes to the DMV in California to vote.
                As for having proof of illegals voting I do not have the authority to check anyone and their status of citizenship it is just blatant common sense to know they are because they can. Hell You have to actually realize they are voting because they can go to the polls and vote for even more politicians and ballot initiatives that give them greater "rights" for whatever is the current rallying cry.

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                • bsm2
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                  #2063
                  Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                  Originally posted by gneebore
                  Oh yeah it is against federal law so someone that is here illegally is going to follow all laws. Just for your information . In Jan 2015 California assembly bill 60 became law. That law allowed any illegal resident to get a California drivers license as a citizen of California. Later the same year in Oct Gov Brown signed into law the Motor Voter Act that automatically registers every eligible citizen that goes to the DMV in California to vote.
                  As for having proof of illegals voting I do not have the authority to check anyone and their status of citizenship it is just blatant common sense to know they are because they can. Hell You have to actually realize they are voting because they can go to the polls and vote for even more politicians and ballot initiatives that give them greater "rights" for whatever is the current rallying cry.


                  Many Many states have motor voter setup not just CA but since there no way I'am going to waste any more of my time. Call you local supervisor of elections an ask. But your too afraid to find out the truth. Good Luck
                  Let us know how it works out. Call them Tuesday. Looking forward to your answer on Tuesday.

                  The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.

                  You can call your state and CA here's the phone number (916) 657-2166
                  • [*=1](800) 345-VOTE (8683) - English

                  Frequently Asked Questions | California Secretary of State

                  Can non-citizens register to vote?No.

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                  • slimslob
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                    #2064
                    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                    Originally posted by bsm2
                    The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.

                    Your Hilarious
                    It is not "widespread" nationly. It is definitely widespread in Democrat controlled states with large illegal populations such as California that have large Congressional delegations, large party delegations and large Electoral College votes.

                    In addition, cities such as San Francisco now allow illegals to vote in local elections. San Francisco will allow noncitizens to vote in a local election, creating a new immigration flashpoint - Los Angeles Times

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                    • bsm2
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                      #2065
                      Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                      Originally posted by slimslob
                      It is not "widespread" nationly. It is definitely widespread in Democrat controlled states with large illegal populations such as California that have large Congressional delegations, large party delegations and large Electoral College votes.

                      In addition, cities such as San Francisco now allow illegals to vote in local elections. San Francisco will allow noncitizens to vote in a local election, creating a new immigration flashpoint - Los Angeles Times

                      Just another MYTH
                      NOT FEDERAL Once again Since enactment of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, federal law has prohibited noncitizens from voting in federal elections. , punishing them by fines, imprisonment, inadmissibility and deportation.[3][4][5] Exempt from punishment is any noncitizen who "reasonably believed at the time of voting (...) that he or she was a citizen of the United States," had a parent who is or was a citizen and began permanently living in the United States before turning 16 years old.[3] The federal law does not prohibit noncitizens from voting in state or local elections, but no state has allowed noncitizens to vote in state elections since Arkansas became the last state to outlaw noncitizen voting in 1926.[6] However, in some states, local governments have the power to allow noncitizens to vote in local elections. Presently, eleven local governments, ten of them in Maryland, allow noncitizens to vote in their local elections.[7] San Francisco allows noncitizen parents to vote in School Board elections.[8]

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                      • slimslob
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                        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                        Originally posted by bsm2
                        Many Many states have motor voter setup not just CA but since there no way I'am going to waste any more of my time. Call you local supervisor of elections an ask. But your too afraid to find out the truth. Good Luck
                        Let us know how it works out. Call them Tuesday. Looking forward to your answer on Tuesday.

                        The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.

                        You can call your state and CA here's the phone number (916) 657-2166
                        • [*=1](800) 345-VOTE (8683) - English

                        Frequently Asked Questions | California Secretary of State

                        Can non-citizens register to vote?No.
                        In California the answer is YES. The California DMV has admitted to registering illegals. Non-citizens illegally registered to vote, California DMV admits - Washington Times That was just one five month period.

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                        • bsm2
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                          Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                          Originally posted by slimslob
                          In California the answer is YES. The California DMV has admitted to registering illegals. Non-citizens illegally registered to vote, California DMV admits - Washington Times That was just one five month period.

                          Call you local supervisor of elections an ask. But your too afraid to find out the truth. Good Luck
                          Let us know how it works out. Call them Tuesday. Looking forward to your answer on Tuesday.


                          The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.


                          You can call CA here's the phone number (916) 657-2166
                          (800) 345-VOTE (8683) - English




                          Frequently Asked Questions | California Secretary of State


                          Can non-citizens register to vote?No.

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                          • gneebore
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                            Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                            Originally posted by slimslob
                            It is not "widespread" nationly. It is definitely widespread in Democrat controlled states with large illegal populations such as California that have large Congressional delegations, large party delegations and large Electoral College votes.

                            In addition, cities such as San Francisco now allow illegals to vote in local elections. San Francisco will allow noncitizens to vote in a local election, creating a new immigration flashpoint - Los Angeles Times
                            Give up the only answer he has is if you have evidence call your election supervisor nonsense. Even if you actually do provide evidence in any form like the survey of 800 Hispanics and 13 percent admitted were here illegally and they voted illegally. I do notice there were actually convictions linked to by me in one post but he ignored them completely. Yes there have been studies showing up to 20 percent of aliens both here illegally and legally voting in US elections. Then I know you linked the San Francisco story where they also had illegal aliens to vote. I also read saw the link but my earlier discussion was concerning federal not local elections. Heck there are occasional blurbs of the admittedly small illegal population living here going to the polls and one they were turned away because they did not have proper id at the time. But we are also now a state that meets the actual requirement of having a passport or a certified copy of your birth certificate before you can renew you drivers license, Wonder how that is going over in Californis,

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                            • Phil B.
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                              Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                              re: illegals voting in NC...

                              19 Noncitizens Voted Illegally in 2016 in North Carolina, U.S. Charges - The New York Times

                              charlotte observer is known to be the type newspaper BSM would read.. ASSuming he can:

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                              • bsm2
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                                Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                                Originally posted by Phil B.
                                re: illegals voting in NC...

                                19 Noncitizens Voted Illegally in 2016 in North Carolina, U.S. Charges - The New York Times

                                charlotte observer is known to be the type newspaper BSM would read.. ASSuming he can:

                                https://www.charlotteobserver.com/ne...225598370.html


                                WOW 19 people out of 5 Million votes in NC. Not MILLIONS as you falsity report.
                                and the system worked.
                                Call you local supervisor of elections an ask. But your too afraid to find out the truth. Good Luck
                                Let us know how it works out. Call them Tuesday. Looking forward to your answer on Tuesday.


                                The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.


                                You can call NC here's the phone number
                                • Phone: (919) 814-0700 or (866) 522-4723
                                • ​Assuming you can dial a phone.


                                WOOT WOOT!!!
                                Last edited by bsm2; 09-01-2019, 09:25 PM.

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