Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

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  • bsm2
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    • bsm2
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      • SalesServiceGuy
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        The search warrant for Trump's home identifies three possible crimes as the reasoning behind the search, including violations of the Espionage Act!

        FBI took 11 sets of classified docs from Mar-a-Lago, including some highly classified material, documents show


        The search warrant for Mar-a-Lago identifies three federal crimes that the Justice Department is looking at as part of its investigation: violations of the Espionage Act, obstruction of justice and criminal handling of government records, according to The New York Times.

        The inclusion of the crimes indicates the Justice Department has probable cause to investigate those offenses as it was gathering evidence in the search.

        No one has been charged with a crime at this time.

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        • bsm2
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          • bsm2
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            Ludicrous.' 'Ridiculous.' 'A complete fiction.': Former Trump officials say his claim of 'standing order' to declassify is nonsense



            In the days since the FBI seized classified and top secret documents from Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, the former President and his allies have claimed that Trump had a "standing order" to declassify documents he took from the Oval Office to the White House residence.

            But 18 former top Trump administration officials tell CNN they never heard any such order issued during their time working for Trump, and that they believe the claim to be patently false.

            Several officials laughed at the notion. One senior administration official called it "bullsh*t." Two of Trump's former chiefs of staff went on the record to knock down the claim.


            "Nothing approaching an order that foolish was ever given," said John Kelly, who served as Trump's chief of staff for 17 months from 2017 to 2019. "And I can't imagine anyone that worked at the White House after me that would have simply shrugged their shoulders and allowed that order to go forward without dying in the ditch trying to stop it."

            Mick Mulvaney, who succeeded Kelly as acting White House chief of staff, also dismissed the idea and told CNN he was "not aware of a general standing order" during his tenure.

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            • Jaws
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              All hear say, no proof yet, and probably none to come since it would be top news if they had any. And, I bet in the end it will all be made up crap to slander a candiate they can't beat without cheating and lying about.
              The real story is your taxes are going up and they are keeping you distracted with nonsense that other presidents have done and the FBI never did crap.

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              • mojorolla
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                Originally posted by Jaws
                All hear say, no proof yet, and probably none to come since it would be top news if they had any. And, I bet in the end it will all be made up crap to slander a candiate they can't beat without cheating and lying about.
                The real story is your taxes are going up and they are keeping you distracted with nonsense that other presidents have done and the FBI never did crap.
                I got news for you, your taxes are going up in 2025 anyway, and it is not because of Joe Biden. Trumps tax cuts for individuals expires in 2025 but, magically, the wealthy cuts are permanent. Not to mention he got his ass whooped in 2020 by old man Joe hiding in a basement. If you are going to claim election fraud, I would love to see the proof. But lets be honest, there is none.


                Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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                • Copier Addict
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                  Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                  Originally posted by Jaws
                  All hear say, no proof yet, and probably none to come since it would be top news if they had any. And, I bet in the end it will all be made up crap to slander a candiate they can't beat without cheating and lying about.
                  The real story is your taxes are going up and they are keeping you distracted with nonsense that other presidents have done and the FBI never did crap.

                  Other presidents stole classified documents and then lied about having them?????? Really?????
                  It's time for you to open your eyes and actually see what trumpy has done. I know, it's difficult to be objective about someone you have invested so much in, but it must be done.

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                  • SalesServiceGuy
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                    'I don't say his name, ever': Vulnerable Republicans seek to avoid Trump in 2022 midterms


                    The man in charge of the House GOP's campaign strategy has been doling out advice to Republican candidates and incumbents in key battleground races as they prepare for the general election: Don't be distracted by Donald Trump on the campaign trail, and instead focus on the issues Republicans believe will be most salient to voters in the midterms.

                    The guidance from Rep. Tom Emmer of Minnesota, relayed by three GOP sources familiar with the internal conversations, reflects a tacit acknowledgment among Republican leaders that the former president could knock the GOP's midterm messaging off course as they seek to recapture the House majority this fall. It also represents a shift from the strategy deployed in many Republican primaries, where embracing Trump -- or at least not alienating him and his base -- was seen as essential to survival.

                    The dynamic that House Republicans are now grappling with underscores the continued challenge Trump's influence over the GOP poses for the party -- a challenge that will only intensify if the former President decides once again to run for the White House in 2024.

                    "Tom Emmer, and I think Kevin (McCarthy) and Steve (Scalise), are all saying we should be focusing on the issues -- and they're right," said Rep. Don Bacon, a Nebraska Republican who represents a Biden-won district and faces a competitive re-election race this fall. "Our focus should be on 2022. If it's 2024, it hurts us. .. We need to be focused on winning this November, and I think anything that takes your eyes off that, it could cost us a couple of victories."

                    A spokesman for Emmer said the National Republican Congressional Committee chairman has indeed counseled candidates to focus on the issues that matter to voters, like inflation, crime and the border, but emphasized that Trump is not on the ballot this fall and therefore has not been a focus during their strategy discussions.

                    "Candidates know their districts best," said NRCC communications director Michael McAdams. "Public and private polls show the midterms will be a referendum on Joe Biden and Democrats' failed agenda that's left voters paying record prices, dealing with soaring violent crime and facing billions in middle-class tax hikes."

                    But Emmer's recommendation may be increasingly tough to follow, especially if Trump announces a presidential run before the midterms -- something Republican leaders, including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, are desperate to avoid. GOP leaders want the midterms to be a referendum on President Joe Biden and the Democrats, not Trump, even though the former president relishes in being the topic of conversation.

                    Meanwhile, the recent FBI search on Mar-a-Lago related to the retention of classified documents has been like rocket fuel for the GOP's base, prompting a surge in fundraising and rallying Republicans to Trump's side. But it has also posed a dilemma for some GOP lawmakers, who are wrestling with how much to invoke Trump back in battleground districts now that they are looking ahead to the general election, where appealing to moderate and suburban voters is crucial.

                    McCarthy -- who has been barnstorming the country this month in his quest to raise cash and win back the majority -- told CNN before the recess break that he sees Trump as integral to their efforts to recapture the House, and has tightly hugged the ex-president in the aftermath of the January 6, 2021, insurrection. But he still believes Trump should wait until after the midterms to launch any presidential bid, wanting to keep a laser-focus on 2022. However, McCarthy dismissed the idea the upcoming election will be anything but an indictment on the party in power.

                    Swing district Republicans attempt to avoid talking about Trump


                    While embracing Trump proved to be a beneficial strategy in Republican primaries, multiple Republicans in battleground districts told CNN they try to avoid talking about Trump on the campaign trail as they seek to appeal to moderate and suburban swing voters this fall, some of whom were turned off by Trump but are unhappy with Biden's handling of the economy.

                    One lawmaker said they only mention the former president when directly asked about him, another member said they try to focus on highlighting Trump's policies and legislative achievements, and a third said they try not to get dragged into the daily Trump maelstrom.

                    "I don't say his name, ever. I just avoid saying his name generally," said one of the GOP lawmakers in a competitive race. "I talk about the policies of his that I like."

                    Republicans are banking on Biden's low approval ratings, historical trends, and the still high -- though decreasing -- cost of goods and gas prices to deliver them the majority. In the House, Republicans only need to net five seats to seize the lower chamber.

                    In the coming weeks, McCarthy is planning to roll out a formal policy agenda for his conference. Last year, he tapped seven task forces to start sketching out a legislative agenda for if Republicans recapture the majority, with the goal of releasing a document before the end of this summer that members can run on in the fall.

                    But Trump -- who has criminal, civil and congressional investigations swirling around him -- remains a looming presence in the party who is threatening to overshadow the GOP's preferred talking points and policy goals. And after the FBI search, even some of Trump's Republican doubters have felt compelled to publicly defend him, cognizant of how the episode has fired up the base.
                    Across the Capitol, there's also been some apprehension about hinging campaigns too tightly on Trump. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell -- who cut ties with Trump after January 6 -- expressed frustration this week over some of the Trump-backed nominees who have struggled in their general election campaigns, and warned that the battle for control of the Senate is going to be "extremely close."

                    "I think there's probably a greater likelihood the House flips than the Senate," McConnell said this week at an event in Kentucky. "Senate races are just different. They're statewide," he added.
                    "Candidate quality has a lot to do with the outcome."

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                    • Jaws
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                      Originally posted by copier addict
                      Other presidents stole classified documents and then lied about having them?????? Really?????
                      It's time for you to open your eyes and actually see what trumpy has done. I know, it's difficult to be objective about someone you have invested so much in, but it must be done.

                      Show me the evidence where he stole classified marked documents. Innocent until proven guilty. I dont remember saying other presidents stole classified documents. Other presidents have taken documents home.

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                      • bsm2
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                        Originally posted by Jaws
                        Show me the evidence where he stole classified marked documents. Innocent until proven guilty. I dont remember saying other presidents stole classified documents. Other presidents have taken documents home.
                        When the guy takes the 5th over 440 times

                        Yep Guilty

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                        • Jaws
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                          Originally posted by mojorolla
                          I got news for you, your taxes are going up in 2025 anyway, and it is not because of Joe Biden. Trumps tax cuts for individuals expires in 2025 but, magically, the wealthy cuts are permanent. Not to mention he got his ass whooped in 2020 by old man Joe hiding in a basement. If you are going to claim election fraud, I would love to see the proof. But lets be honest, there is none.


                          The election proof is that the last four states Biden needed to win coincidentally stopped counting, 3 with Trump winning. Then when the counting restarted Biden coincidentally came out winning. That alone is evidence enough of foul play. Then if you saw all the ballots boxes being stuffed by people over and over again you would know it was foul play.

                          I also believe they did this for Hillary but under estimated how many voted Trump was going to get and fell short of what was needed to win.

                          I cant believe you are the same people that work on copiers. You have to be able to figure things out and you clearly cant see when you are being feed fake news(propaganda)

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                          • SalesServiceGuy
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                            Originally posted by Jaws
                            Show me the evidence where he stole classified marked documents. Innocent until proven guilty. I dont remember saying other presidents stole classified documents. Other presidents have taken documents home.
                            ... until the ex President, no US President in history has been accused of illegally removing classified documents from the White House. They all understood and respected the National security consequences.

                            What other President took classified documents home?

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                            • bsm2
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                              Originally posted by Jaws
                              The election proof is that the last four states Biden needed to win coincidentally stopped counting, 3 with Trump winning. Then when the counting restarted Biden coincidentally came out winning. That alone is evidence enough of foul play. Then if you saw all the ballots boxes being stuffed by people over and over again you would know it was foul play.

                              I also believe they did this for Hillary but under estimated how many voted Trump was going to get and fell short of what was needed to win.

                              I cant believe you are the same people that work on copiers. You have to be able to figure things out and you clearly cant see when you are being feed fake news(propaganda)
                              How many times have they Proven No ZERO Nada election fraud in the 2020 elections.

                              Trump Losted Period buddy


                              Odd how come Democrats did not win Every race

                              Yep BS sore Losers

                              Guess what happens in elections they count all the Votes

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                              • slimslob
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                                Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                                Originally posted by mojorolla
                                I got news for you, your taxes are going up in 2025 anyway, and it is not because of Joe Biden. Trumps tax cuts for individuals expires in 2025 but, magically, the wealthy cuts are permanent. Not to mention he got his ass whooped in 2020 by old man Joe hiding in a basement. If you are going to claim election fraud, I would love to see the proof. But lets be honest, there is none.


                                Tax rate change bills normally do have a set ending date. Very often it is the year after the President who signed it would leave office after 2 full terms. THe facts are that the first thing that Biden did after being sworn in was the cancel as many of the Economy Policies that President Trump had put in place as he could.

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