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  • theengel
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    #166
    Re: Any stargazers out there...?

    Originally posted by NeoMatrix
    htttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_velocity
    Angular velocity - Wikipedia
    I stand corrected... although you'd said "angular orbital velocity" as opposed to "orbital angular velocity"

    Anyway--my explanation still applies.

    Analytical Tech:Cyclic yearly meteorite shower means stationary rocks in solar system.


    That's because comets and meteors create their own little changes as they orbit the sun. Explosions from expanding ice. Collisions with other objects. And yeah--even the not-so-powerful solar winds. These things cause particles to slow down or even stop. So there is a trail of small particles in the exact shape of the comet's orbital path. I think if you could take a closer look at these objects, you'd find that they are all moving as well--not stationary. They're just moving at different speeds.

    2.) Heat does not travel through the vacuum of space.
    3.) Igniting a ball of hydrogen gas creates "one" big explosion.
    4.) All objects in solar orbit are NOT attracted to the Suns "G.r.a.v.i.t.y".


    2 - No, but energy does. Light waves, gamma rays, xrays, etc.,.
    And once it reaches the earth, it is transformed into heat and other things.

    3 - The sun is one big explosion. But it's so massive that it takes time. Besides--what is going on in the sun is not "ignition". If you light hydrogen here on earth, you are oxidizing it. The sun isn't oxidizing. It's not burning anything. You're looking at nuclear fusion... not burning.

    4 - I don't know what
    G.r.a.v.i.t.y is, but if something with mass is orbiting the sun, it is attracted to the sun's gravitational pull. That's what an orbit is.

    Again--your questions either have simple explanations, or they aren't valid questions. Like the 'ignition' of hydrogen.

    It's not that there's anything wrong with asking, but challenging the accepted science of something, the way you do it, makes it sound as if there's some sort of conspiracy or something. Maybe it's not the way you say it--maybe it's just the way I read it. But see--other people are reading it that way as well. I'm only pointing this out because it makes you come off sounding silly, when really, you're just seeing something that doesn't make sense to you and raising the question.

    In science, one thing I've figured out, is that if something doesn't make sense to me, then it is I who is missing (or not understanding) some crucial part of the equation. But in this day and age, it doesn't take a whole lot to get answers. You just have to do some research. Just don't start with the notion that what you don't understand must be a lie... cause it's usually not.

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    • NeoMatrix
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      #167
      Re: Any stargazers out there...?

      Okay...... (One step at a time).

      Lets assume we're in a tech training classroom environment for the moment....

      Did anyone the take time to watch the below video....??????

      htttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CggulqRHAPY
      htttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CggulqRHAPY
      YouTube
      The above You tube video show what happens to a magnetic field when its heated.

      A magnetic field is a magnetic field. There is no such thing as different variety magnetic force field properties.
      A magnetic field(s) does NOT come in various flavours. The magnetic field of a speaker magnet is
      the same magnetic field properties of the Sun,the Earth, the moon and all the other planetary magnetic fields.

      [#1] Lets assume that there is a forum consensus with understanding magnetic fields of force...............

      Re. Aetheric fields and magnets lines of force.
      The magnetic field lines of force penetrating from a magnet are shaped in torus/donut/vortex field of force.
      A magnetic field cannot generate its vortex magnetic lines of force without a carrier medium of some sort.
      Example:
      A whirlpool,tornado,cyclone cannot generate a scalar/vortex field of force with out an air or water medium as its carrier medium.

      ...Carrier Medium.
      The magnetic field carrier medium "is the aetheric field"(electric type fluid) that surrounds each planet.
      The aetheric field (electric fluid) around each planet allows for the formation of planets magnetic field lines of force.
      The planetary body cannot have a magnet force field without an aetheric fluid carrier medium to create the lines of force of the magnet field. The aetheric field(electric type fluid) of planet Earth extends 407200km in radius out from the planet. A body devoid of aetheric fluid will suddenly crystallize an become brittle. It is the reason some asteroids an meteorites are crystal structured.

      ...Michelson-Morely
      The aetheric field around each planet is the same aetheric field(electric type fluid) around Earth that the Michelson-Morley aether experiment failed to find. Michelson-Morley failed to find the aetheric field around earth because they did not reason that the aetheric field around each planet is travelling at the same angular velocity as the planet. Had they used a focal laser beam from outside the earth, the experiment would have discovered the phase shift light properties their experiment was hoping to locate. Indoctrinated-science therefore rejects the aetheric field around planets, but at the same indoctrinate-science then accepts the vortex magnetic lines of force produced within a carrier medium of say a cylinder permanent magnet.

      [#2] Is there a forum consensus that there must be some carrier field that produces a magnetic field?

      [Revision.Thread #133]
      http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/ra...tml#post756424
      Previous thread you tube videos showing the scalar/vortex magnetic lines of force of a permanent magnet.
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        #168
        Re: Any stargazers out there...?

        Originally posted by NeoMatrix
        Okay...... (One step at a time).

        Lets assume we're in a tech training classroom environment for the moment....

        Did anyone the take time to watch the below video....??????

        htttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CggulqRHAPY
        htttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CggulqRHAPY
        YouTube
        The above You tube video show what happens to a magnetic field when its heated.

        A magnetic field is a magnetic field. There is no such thing as different variety magnetic force field properties.
        A magnetic field(s) does NOT come in various flavours. The magnetic field of a speaker magnet is
        the same magnetic field properties of the Sun,the Earth, the moon and all the other planetary magnetic fields.

        [#1] Lets assume that there is a forum consensus with understanding magnetic fields of force...............

        Re. Aetheric fields and magnets lines of force.
        The magnetic field lines of force penetrating from a magnet are shaped in torus/donut/vortex field of force.
        A magnetic field cannot generate its vortex magnetic lines of force without a carrier medium of some sort.
        Example:
        A whirlpool,tornado,cyclone cannot generate a scalar/vortex field of force with out an air or water medium as its carrier medium.

        The magnetic field carrier medium "is the aetheric field"(electric type fluid) that surrounds each planet.
        The aetheric field (electric fluid) around each planet allows for the formation of planets magnetic field lines of force.
        The planetary body cannot have a magnet force field without aetheric fluid carrier medium to create the lines of force of the magnet field. The aetheric field(electric type fluid) of planet Earth extends 407200km in radius out from the planet. A body devoid of aetheric fluid will suddenly crystallize an become brittle. It is the reason some asteroids an meteorites are crystal structured.

        re. Michelson-Morely
        The aetheric field around each planet is the same aetheric field(electric type fluid) around Earth that the Michelson-Morley aether experiment failed to find. Michelson-Morley failed to find the aetheric field around earth because they did not reason that the aetheric field around each planet is travelling at the same angular velocity as the planet. Had they used a focal laser beam from outside the earth, the experiment would have discovered the phase shift light properties their experiment was hoping to locate. Indoctrinated-science therefore rejects the aetheric field around planets, but at the same indoctrinate-science then accepts the vortex magnetic lines of force produced within a carrier medium.

        [#2] Is there a forum consensus that there must be some carrier field that produces a magnetic field?

        Sorry, until you answer my previous questions I will not consider your theories to be legitimate.

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        • theengel
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          #169
          Re: Any stargazers out there...?

          Originally posted by NeoMatrix
          The above You tube video show what happens to a magnetic field when its heated.

          A magnetic field is a magnetic field. There is no such thing as different variety magnetic force field properties.
          First off, you're just flat out wrong. Magnetic fields can be created in different ways--and while the fields themselves might behave the same, changing the materials that created them would definitely change the field.

          I didn't watch the whole video. I wonder if they tried heating the piece of steel (the one NOT magnetic) and then tried putting it against a permanent magnet. If they did, I can tell you that the two wouldn't have been attracted. When you're heating steel, you know it's hot enough to harden by putting it against a cold magnet. The heat doesn't do anything to the field, it keeps the ferrous metal from being effected by the field. In other words, it's the metal that changes... not the magnetic field. It has to do with the way the carbon lines up molecularly.

          This is part of your problem. You see things and immediately make assumptions on it, and you don't seem to bother yourself with all the other facts that have been flat-out proven a long time ago.

          The reason I'm pointing it out, is because this is EXACTLY what flat-earthers do. They make wild claims, based on things they don't understand. And it's not just that they don't understand them--it's that they don't even bother to find out about them. They immediately jump on the assumption that they're being lied to. And they NEVER just look to find out.

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          • theengel
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            #170
            Re: Any stargazers out there...?

            I went back and watched the video. They illustrated what I had stated... but they said it in a way that was misleading. The hot steel wasn't attracted to a magnet--but they put it like, "the heated steel was no longer magnetic." The problem is, the steel never was magnetic. It was attracted to magnets.

            The heat is not what affected any of the magnetic fields. The heat affected the magnets. These are two different things.

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            • emujo2
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              #171
              Re: Any stargazers out there...?

              But he only sees what he wants to..When his statements say "let's assume the forum can agree with me on this..." he just discounts that we don't. Also the sun, which I learned in school is pretty hot, (although those idiot morons may have just been "indoctrinated" to this un proven fact), generates some pretty powerful magnetic fields. So much for "no magnetic fields in heat".. I've heard scientologists sound saner...

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                #172
                Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                Okay...... (One step at a time).

                Lets assume we're in a tech training classroom environment for the moment....

                Did anyone the take time to watch the below video....??????

                htttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CggulqRHAPY
                htttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CggulqRHAPY
                YouTube
                The above You tube video show what happens to a magnetic field when its heated.

                A magnetic field is a magnetic field. There is no such thing as different variety magnetic force field properties.
                A magnetic field(s) does NOT come in various flavours. The magnetic field of a speaker magnet is
                the same magnetic field properties of the Sun,the Earth, the moon and all the other planetary magnetic fields.

                [#1] Lets assume that there is a forum consensus with understanding magnetic fields of force...............

                Re. Aetheric fields and magnets lines of force.
                The magnetic field lines of force penetrating from a magnet are shaped in torus/donut/vortex field of force.
                A magnetic field cannot generate its vortex magnetic lines of force without a carrier medium of some sort.
                Example:
                A whirlpool,tornado,cyclone cannot generate a scalar/vortex field of force with out an air or water medium as its carrier medium.

                ...Carrier Medium.
                The magnetic field carrier medium "is the aetheric field"(electric type fluid) that surrounds each planet.
                The aetheric field (electric fluid) around each planet allows for the formation of planets magnetic field lines of force.
                The planetary body cannot have a magnet force field without an aetheric fluid carrier medium to create the lines of force of the magnet field. The aetheric field(electric type fluid) of planet Earth extends 407200km in radius out from the planet. A body devoid of aetheric fluid will suddenly crystallize an become brittle. It is the reason some asteroids an meteorites are crystal structured.

                ...Michelson-Morely
                The aetheric field around each planet is the same aetheric field(electric type fluid) around Earth that the Michelson-Morley aether experiment failed to find. Michelson-Morley failed to find the aetheric field around earth because they did not reason that the aetheric field around each planet is travelling at the same angular velocity as the planet. Had they used a focal laser beam from outside the earth, the experiment would have discovered the phase shift light properties their experiment was hoping to locate. Indoctrinated-science therefore rejects the aetheric field around planets, but at the same indoctrinate-science then accepts the vortex magnetic lines of force produced within a carrier medium of say a cylinder permanent magnet.

                [#2] Is there a forum consensus that there must be some carrier field that produces a magnetic field?

                [Revision.Thread #133]
                http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/ra...tml#post756424
                Previous thread you tube videos showing the scalar/vortex magnetic lines of force of a permanent magnet.
                And trees aren't held in the ground by their root system, their leaves and branches grip the surrounding atmosphere. That is why when the wind blows the branches and leaves move. That is also why, when the wind is quite heavy, the branches will break off or the tree will completely fall over and pull the root system out of the ground. Thus proving the tree is NOT held up by the root system.
                See how plausible things can sound? Even though my statement is absolute garbage, I could likely make certain people believe it.

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                • mikadonovan
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                  #173
                  Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                  Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                  The atom electron is both "a particle" an "a wave".
                  Analytical Tech:Congruent quip. A cat is both a Feline and an African Elephant.
                  Which of the above B/S statements are students required to interpret as fact?
                  True to fact,I can pamper a cat, without the required superposition from Schrodinger.
                  The electron is a Wave...
                  Interesting discussion. I need to add that the electron apparently can be a particle (matter) or a wave (light), depending upon if it is being observed or not. Human observation causes a change in test results? WTF. Welcome to the quantum universe. Kind of leads me to wonder if our observed universe (matter) only exists WHEN being observed, kind of like a video game not rendering the areas that are outside of the screen view. Saves and enormous amount of processing power. Maybe Elon Musk is right, our awareness exists within a program. Refer to the double slit experiment for further mind freak data that supports that supposition.
                  NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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                  • theengel
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                    #174
                    Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                    Originally posted by mikadonovan
                    Interesting discussion. I need to add that the electron apparently can be a particle (matter) or a wave (light), depending upon if it is being observed or not. Human observation causes a change in test results? WTF. Welcome to the quantum universe.
                    This is what kind of irritates me though. I take everything Neo says with a grain of salt. It's obvious in his statements that he hasn't done much research on the subject--he's just repeating what he's heard some crazy youtuber say. But this--this is something I heard said on PBS. And THAT's irritating.

                    Electrons are not both particles and waves. They can collectively act like waves. But a single electron is not ever a wave. And it is not according to whether or not it is being observed--it is according to whether or not we are adding tiny changes to it and making it behave differently than the way it behaved when we weren't watching it... changes like light, which will certainly change the behavior of something so small. Just ask Heisenberg.

                    I've seen shows try to "explain" quantum mechanics and I don't see them as any better than the flat-earthers. They act like there's some sort of mystic force that we don't understand, and then they get into things like multi-verses. This crap is passing for science and being repeated in schools! That's sick!

                    I'm not pretending to know everything there is about any one subject. But if I don't understand something, I don't just make up a theory and then call it the truth--as some scientists (the guy in a wheelchair comes to mind) are now apt to do. And anyone who questions them are simply laughed at because THEY are not physicists, and therefore not capable of having an opinion... or even of understanding the concept being talked about.

                    I believe this is what Neo is griping about when he posts. But I think he takes it too far, and questions EVERYTHING being taught, ignoring things that have long been proven.

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                    • NeoMatrix
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                      #175
                      Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                      Re. Magnetic field video.
                      Interesting points of view. Most of the relevant replies follow the used cars salesman talk or the political rhetoric
                      of the most long winded way of say absolutely NOTHING.

                      But,at least some took the time to reply.... At least some did go back an watch the video again.

                      I have a fully recognized, years of working hands on, Engineering Qualification.
                      I've worked with large flame torches and 650amp industrial equipment melting various metals on an "hourly" basis.

                      Which of you highly educated hands on individuals is going to tell me
                      that I don't know how to melt steel and various other metals using high current or flame torch?

                      Which of you highly educated individuals, (some of who struggle to construct a proper written sentence) is going
                      to tell me a magnet, however big, DOES NOT lose its field strength when heated by hot metal or flame torch?

                      Over the many years, I've worked inside numerous smelting refineries. I've had guided tours through the refineries.
                      The guide tours are mandatory site induction before you can go into the refinery offices and annex work sites.
                      I've seen the INDUSTRIAL gas fired and electro-pallet smelter furnaces in action melting 5m high crucibles full of metals.

                      Which of you highly educated individuals is going to tell me a magnet sticks to the side of an industrial size hot melt crucible (pot).

                      A magnet does not adhere to any size blob of hot or melting metal.
                      ...the inverse.
                      Hot metal or molten Ni-Fe iron-rock does not adhere to any type of magnetic field. FULL STOP, END OF ARGUMENT....

                      The Sun has a magnetic field which means the Sun cannot be hot.
                      The Sun CANNOT be HOT, how ever big its magnetic field.

                      The Earth has a magnetic field which means the Earths magnetic molten core cannot be hot.
                      The magnetic molten core of Earth CANNOT be HOT.

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                      Re. Baa Baa
                      But Daddy Santaclause said Da big ball in da sky is reery big hot-magnetic ball of burving gas...
                      And we bareev dat Santaclause, Easterbunny an da Toothfairy is real too don't we daddy.
                      Yes Sun Son your are correct, I learnt all that too when I was going up.
                      Ok son you must never think freely for yourself, or believe in any fact that is true.
                      You must always believe what you are taught through indoctrinated class, now and forever.
                      What ever you do, do not upset the sheeple with any form of truth....


                      PS. The last paragraph arrogantly preempts the pending replies from the (struggling to comprehend) sheeple in the forum.

                      <Please add meaningful scientific debate here.... >
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                      • NeoMatrix
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                        #176
                        Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                        Originally posted by mikadonovan
                        Interesting discussion. I need to add that the electron apparently can be a particle (matter) or a wave (light), depending upon if it is being observed or not. Human observation causes a change in test results? WTF. Welcome to the quantum universe. Kind of leads me to wonder if our observed universe (matter) only exists WHEN being observed, kind of like a video game not rendering the areas that are outside of the screen view. Saves and enormous amount of processing power. Maybe Elon Musk is right, our awareness exists within a program. Refer to the double slit experiment for further mind freak data that supports that supposition.
                        https://video.search.yahoo.com/video...r_win&amp;tt=b

                        Thanks for the meaningful reply...

                        I haven't had a look the website URL yet...
                        Though many years ago since I last read about it , I'm aware of the scientific debate put forward about "viewing a particle causes it to change".

                        I would like to elaborate seriously and in depth about this topic, but I'm fumbling to establish a congruent base line of consensus with even the most basic magnetic principles....
                        Any further Particle/Quantum theory discussion at this nexus in the forum is absolutely out of the realm of reality.

                        Participant comprehension on the most basic fundamental of topics is very minimal...

                        Thanks anyway....
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                          #177
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                          Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                          Re. Magnetic field video.
                          Interesting points of view. Most of the relevant replies follow the used cars salesman talk or the political rhetoric
                          of the most long winded way of say absolutely NOTHING.

                          But,at least some took the time to reply.... At least some did go back an watch the video again.

                          I have a fully recognized, years of working hands on, Engineering Qualification.
                          I've worked with large flame torches and 650amp industrial equipment melting various metals on an "hourly" basis.

                          Which of you highly educated hands on individuals is going to tell me
                          that I don't know how to melt steel and various other metals using high current or flame torch?

                          Which of you highly educated individuals, (some of who struggle to construct a proper written sentence) is going
                          to tell me a magnet, however big, DOES NOT lose its field strength when heated by hot metal or flame torch?

                          Over the many years, I've worked inside numerous smelting refineries. I've had guided tours through the refineries.
                          The guide tours are mandatory site induction before you can go into the refinery offices and annex work sites.
                          I've seen the INDUSTRIAL gas fired and electro-pallet smelter furnaces in action melting 5m high crucibles full of metals.

                          Which of you highly educated individuals is going to tell me a magnet sticks to the side of an industrial size hot melt crucible (pot).

                          A magnet does not adhere to any size blob of hot or melting metal.
                          ...the inverse.
                          Hot metal or molten Ni-Fe iron-rock does not adhere to any type of magnetic field. FULL STOP, END OF ARGUMENT....

                          The Sun has a magnetic field which means the Sun cannot be hot.
                          The Sun CANNOT be HOT, how ever big its magnetic field.

                          The Earth has a magnetic field which means the Earths magnetic molten core cannot be hot.
                          The magnetic molten core of Earth CANNOT be HOT.

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                          .
                          .
                          Re. Baa Baa
                          But Daddy Santaclause said Da big ball in da sky is reery big hot-magnetic ball of burving gas...
                          And we bareev dat Santaclause, Easterbunny an da Toothfairy is real too don't we daddy.
                          Yes Sun Son your are correct, I learnt all that too when I was going up.
                          Ok son you must never think freely for yourself, or believe in any fact that is true.
                          You must always believe what you are taught through indoctrinated class, now and forever.
                          What ever you do, do not upset the sheeple with any form of truth....


                          PS. The last paragraph arrogantly preempts the pending replies from the (struggling to comprehend) sheeple in the forum.

                          <Please add meaningful scientific debate here.... >
                          It is the properties of the metal that cause it to lose magnetism when heated, not the properties of magetism itself, and the sun isn't metal. In simple terms the sun is a giant electromagnet that produces its magnetic field from electrified plasma.
                          And since heat doesn't actually affect a magnetic field produced by an electromagnet, I think the forum would be in consensus that the sun CAN be hot and have a magnetic field.
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                          • NeoMatrix
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                            #178
                            Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                            Originally posted by mikadonovan
                            Interesting discussion. I need to add that the electron apparently can be a particle (matter) or a wave (light), depending upon if it is being observed or not. Human observation causes a change in test results? WTF.

                            [random snip]

                            https://video.search.yahoo.com/video...r_win&amp;tt=b

                            Re. Particle/Wave duality....
                            I finally got around to watching the above video. The video topic involved the electron-wave double slit experiment.

                            If I answer this with my own totally full quantum explanation I risk literally standing science on its head.
                            The answer I supply below might be sufficient to peeve off a number of indoctrinated scientist.

                            Re. Referring to the "Electron-Wave" passing through the Double slit observations.
                            At this point we're not concerned with the common single slit observations...

                            1. Electrons as "waves" gyrate around an atoms nucleus.
                            2. Electrons are effected/deflated or polarized by magnetic fields.

                            The reason scientist become confused when they monitored/watch the electron-wave with monitoring apparatus, is because the monitoring apparatus polarizes the electron-wavelet positional plane once passing out the rear side of the double slit.
                            And/Or,
                            the viewing/monitor apparatus "atomic nucleus gyration" changed the angle of incidence(phase) of the wave as it came through/out each side of the double slits.

                            As the electron wave passes through the double slit, the wave divides into two phase locked wavelets of itself. Two halves/segments of a larger wave aka wavelet. If the two wavelets remain in phase an on the "same horizontal plane", then the wavelets will cause and interference pattern on the observations screen. True to science observation.

                            With the viewing apparatus insitu with the double slit experiment, the electrical field around the viewing apparatus changes the angle of each wavelet out the rear side of the slit screen. The two wavelets comes out of the rear side of the double slit rotated 90 deg on two different polarized planes. The wavelets that were previously horizontal, an in phase, are now two rotated 90deg and out of phase wavelets. Which means there is no longer any possible interference pattern on the observation screen. In affect, the wavelets are striking the observation screen vertical not horizontal. If the wavelets strike horizontal their in phase. If the wavelets strike the observation screen vertical, they are not producing any interfering pattern with each other, no superposition/cancelled intersections, nothing but two vertical lines on the screen. Exactly as the experimental observations show. The wavelets did not magically become a single "Unified Particle" after being monitored/watched by the viewing apparatus.

                            To help people understand. Make a peace/victory sign with two fingers on one hand,"V". Each finger in the"V" represent each wavelet coming out the rear side of the double slit. The fingers are no longer parallel and on the same angle of the plane. Move your fingers "V" along the path of the electron wavelet as they strike the observation target screen. Your two fingers are no longer in wave motion phase, horizontal or vertical. They will not create the wavelet interference pattern on the observation screen.

                            I use the wavelet rotational plane angle of 90deg as an example only. The two out of phase wavelets could be any rotated or polarized axial angle.

                            This forum is the very first time I have spoken in public about the problem associated with the electron-wave double slit monitor/watch experiment. The electron is a "Wave". Contrary to all scientific observations, the electron-wave does not magically change to a "Particle" when viewed. Scientist have just misinterpreted the observational "cause", and therefore, the outcome of their double slit "monitor/watched" experiment.

                            All "scientific discovery" is based firstly on "observation", then mathematics secondly to duplicate and reproduce a methodological result.

                            In all sincere honesty, I do not profess to know everything about the infinite universe.
                            I just wish to share all I know, fact or fiction, with the younger generation before I move on to greener fields.
                            The universe is vast, infinite,enigmatic in all its majesty.
                            To profess to know the mechanics or metaphysics of entire universe is an exercise in limited naive delusions.
                            I personally do not suffer from delusions of grander...

                            I seek no fame or financial gain from the above information. Do with it as you will, else throw it in the bin.
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                              #179
                              Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                              Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                              Re. Magnetic field video.
                              Interesting points of view. Most of the relevant replies follow the used cars salesman talk or the political rhetoric
                              of the most long winded way of say absolutely NOTHING.

                              But,at least some took the time to reply.... At least some did go back an watch the video again.

                              I have a fully recognized, years of working hands on, Engineering Qualification.
                              I've worked with large flame torches and 650amp industrial equipment melting various metals on an "hourly" basis.

                              Which of you highly educated hands on individuals is going to tell me
                              that I don't know how to melt steel and various other metals using high current or flame torch?

                              Which of you highly educated individuals, (some of who struggle to construct a proper written sentence) is going
                              to tell me a magnet, however big, DOES NOT lose its field strength when heated by hot metal or flame torch?

                              Over the many years, I've worked inside numerous smelting refineries. I've had guided tours through the refineries.
                              The guide tours are mandatory site induction before you can go into the refinery offices and annex work sites.
                              I've seen the INDUSTRIAL gas fired and electro-pallet smelter furnaces in action melting 5m high crucibles full of metals.

                              Which of you highly educated individuals is going to tell me a magnet sticks to the side of an industrial size hot melt crucible (pot).

                              A magnet does not adhere to any size blob of hot or melting metal.
                              ...the inverse.
                              Hot metal or molten Ni-Fe iron-rock does not adhere to any type of magnetic field. FULL STOP, END OF ARGUMENT....

                              The Sun has a magnetic field which means the Sun cannot be hot.
                              The Sun CANNOT be HOT, how ever big its magnetic field.

                              The Earth has a magnetic field which means the Earths magnetic molten core cannot be hot.
                              The magnetic molten core of Earth CANNOT be HOT.

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                              Re. Baa Baa
                              But Daddy Santaclause said Da big ball in da sky is reery big hot-magnetic ball of burving gas...
                              And we bareev dat Santaclause, Easterbunny an da Toothfairy is real too don't we daddy.
                              Yes Sun Son your are correct, I learnt all that too when I was going up.
                              Ok son you must never think freely for yourself, or believe in any fact that is true.
                              You must always believe what you are taught through indoctrinated class, now and forever.
                              What ever you do, do not upset the sheeple with any form of truth....


                              PS. The last paragraph arrogantly preempts the pending replies from the (struggling to comprehend) sheeple in the forum.

                              <Please add meaningful scientific debate here.... >

                              Thank you for allowing us to confirm that in fact the sun IS hot and DOES have a magnetic field.
                              As for the earth's core being hot, all I have to say is "volcano". I'm sure you have some superior knowledge about that too.
                              It is quite clear that you simply ignore anything that goes against your beliefs, so I will not be reading or commenting on anything you post in this forum.
                              People gain knowledge by listening, but you seem to actually believe that you are the only one who knows the answer to everything.
                              I like to learn but the "knowledge" you present seems to be you taking the current accepted theories and simply turning them backwards. And when that doesn't work you seem to just make things up as you go.
                              Last edited by Copier Addict; 06-02-2019, 01:48 PM.

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                              • emujo2
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                                • Mar 2017
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                                #180
                                Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                                We really need to pay attention to Neo..I found him giving a lecture....


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