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  • theengel
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    #16
    Re: Any stargazers out there...?

    Originally posted by roho
    I have a Dobsonian scope, great views of Jupiter, Moon and Saturn. Too much light pollution where I live to see much else though, not too mention I am by a major airport approach. Planning on getting a sun filter next.
    I had pretty much light polution where I lived, but I was stunned by the number of objects I was able to pick up in Sagittarius. Lots of nebula in there.

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    • Copier Addict
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      #17
      Re: Any stargazers out there...?

      Originally posted by theengel
      Only 10% of an iceberg is above the surface. Water expands to 9% of it's original volume when it freezes.

      Take those two facts together, and tell me why the hell anyone should worry about the melting icecaps.
      Well........ because there are people and animals who live in the general area that depend on the ice for their lives. That's all.

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      • Iowatech
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        #18
        Re: Any stargazers out there...?

        Originally posted by roho
        I have a Dobsonian scope
        I'd never heard about those before. If that is similar to what I found on Wikapedia, I'll have to look into getting something like that, too.

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        • theengel
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          #19
          Re: Any stargazers out there...?

          On a dobsonian, is it difficult to track a star or object as it moves through the sky? I like my Equatorial mount because I can just turn the right ascension axis to stay focused on a target as it moves.

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          • roho
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            #20
            Re: Any stargazers out there...?

            Originally posted by theengel
            On a dobsonian, is it difficult to track a star or object as it moves through the sky? I like my Equatorial mount because I can just turn the right ascension axis to stay focused on a target as it moves.
            I just got it last year, learning on my own, no one introduced me to the hobby. I don't find tracking to be a nuisance, but I have never tried anything else either. I also haven't went searching for DSO either, just the planets and identifying stars and constellations. I hope to get out to some dark spots this year. I plan on staying simple for now, I will likely upgrade after I learn more and get more experience with the sky and the equipment. I have a basic skywatcher 8inch now, I will put up with the manual aspect of it for now. It's basic and easy to move in my car as I have to drive quite a bit to get a good dark sky. I hope to some day be out of the city, probably look at a more complex setup then.

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            • 20 year tech
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              #21
              Re: Any stargazers out there...?

              New pics from NASA's Juno

              Download raw imagery from JunoCam and upload your processed imagery to the gallery!

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              • Lagonda
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                Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                I miss gazing at the stars since I moved into the Big Smoke. We were up in the hills a 100 km out from the city with very little light pollution so had a wonderful view of the southern skies and the Milky Way. Just after sunset was a good time to watch satellites wiz overhead. Now we're down in the city all you can see is the major constellations and a planet or two.
                I have a smart phone and find most apps useless except for Google Skymap which is terrific for finding stars and identifying the ones that do get to peek through the overhead murk.
                At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                • theengel
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                  #23
                  Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                  I do it every time. I'm interested in one picture, or someone links to one article/picture, and I end up spending hours going through the various parts of the NASA site. Absolutely amazing that anyone can go and see raw data coming from the dozens of satellites and space probes.

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                  • NeoMatrix
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                    #24
                    Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                    I do gaze up at the night sky from time to time with awe....
                    I use to live waaaay out in the western country where the night sky is a fireworks of colour ~350 days a year. In our youth we would navigate on vermin hunting trips at night using only the stars.

                    Luv all the NASA full colour images.

                    Luv the fact that there is a green ionosphere glow around the outside of earth when the atmosphere is blue, go figure ?
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                    • theengel
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                      You know what sucks? I've been a star gazer for about 10 years now. I've learned so much about our universe... specifically about our solar system. Standing in my back yard, I've seen planets, moons, asteroids, comets, nebula, star clusters, and twice I've been able to capture other galaxies. I've even caught glimpses of satellites and space junk (you can see what's what in that iphone app). I understand all these concepts that I've either seen in documentaries or looked up myself. I've spent so many hours with my cheap 4" reflector.

                      And my brother is a flat earther.

                      Yes, they actually do exist.

                      I'm just beside myself with grief.

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                      • NeoMatrix
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                        #26
                        Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                        Originally posted by theengel


                        {snip}

                        And my brother is a flat earther.

                        Yes, they actually do exist.

                        I'm just beside myself with grief.
                        haha flat earthers.
                        We call them customers over our way....

                        Yes sadly I some times wonder about the "flat earthers", is there any body home up there.
                        But... on the same token, --ignorance is bliss, an ignorant bliss makes for generally happy people.

                        Yes I too know my share of people who truly don't know their @nus from their elbow.
                        And that is just a nice way of putting it. One of my old bosses put it in perspective he said --"It's like working with orangutans". Well, I like to believe it's a little better than that.

                        All in all though I sincerely have respect for their wish to live that way,
                        after all, that is the reason why most repair Techs earn their living.

                        May the Bliss be with you...
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                        • mikadonovan
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                          This is a weird one. Here is a satellite pic of a new base on mars.After it was discovered, Google said they made it as a an April fools joke, although I believe it was discovered way after April fools day. And how many people use Google Mars? Many think it was just a Nasa slipup where they forgot to airbrush it out like they normally do. If it is a photoshop project, somebody did a super job at making it look real, down to the shadows and the pathways around the complex. Very interesting. If your on google Mars, it is around the Yellowknife area, close to the tracks from one of the rovers, Curiosity I think.
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                          • emujo2
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                            #28
                            Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                            Originally posted by mikadonovan
                            This is a weird one. Here is a satellite pic of a new base on mars.After it was discovered, Google said they made it as a an April fools joke, although I believe it was discovered way after April fools day. And how many people use Google Mars? Many think it was just a Nasa slipup where they forgot to airbrush it out like they normally do. If it is a photoshop project, somebody did a super job at making it look real, down to the shadows and the pathways around the complex. Very interesting. If your on google Mars, it is around the Yellowknife area, close to the tracks from one of the rovers, Curiosity I think.

                            Can't be 100% sure the Moon landing wasn't faked, but I am 100% sure the mars mission that established this base was. Emujo

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                            • NeoMatrix
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                              #29
                              Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                              Originally posted by mikadonovan
                              This is a weird one. Here is a satellite pic of a new base on mars.After it was discovered, Google said they made it as a an April fools joke, although I believe it was discovered way after April fools day. And how many people use Google Mars? Many think it was just a Nasa slipup where they forgot to airbrush it out like they normally do. If it is a photoshop project, somebody did a super job at making it look real, down to the shadows and the pathways around the complex. Very interesting. If your on google Mars, it is around the Yellowknife area, close to the tracks from one of the rovers, Curiosity I think.
                              Interesting... Picture. I can only assume the information is as you say.

                              I believe two highly noted people are on public record for making statements about Mars missions.

                              I believe the media asked Buz Aldrin what he would like to do next, he stated "He would
                              like to see NASA go back to Mars." He spoke in the past tense like NASA had already been there before.

                              I believe President Obama is on record for stating he would like to help organisations go back to Mars.

                              If you're inclined to believe in the Sci-fi area, the US military have all ready got a base on Mars. Apparently the Philadelphia experiments with the warship USS Eldridge have advanced enough to allow the scientist of the day to open up the seventh seal. The term I've heard is call LERM or Light Energy Reality Matrix.

                              The universe is a light energy holographic matrix with a finite set of laws that allows for an
                              infinite set of holograms to co-exist in multiple layers and levels within a relative frame of motion. Ie. a Holographic matrix or quantum physics. Forget the Rutherford model of the atom, it is incomplete. Forget the electron particle-wave "duality theory" its is basically nonsense, the electron is a wave. There are many matrices within matrices, Universes within Universes.

                              For those into spiritual or the science of metaphysics, it could be said that "God is an isotropic line fluctuating simultaneously on all points at once". Ie. a Fractal Holographic Matrix. A matrix has a finite known fixed set of mathematical laws.

                              Universal scale mathematics means intelligence in any language.

                              In the immortal words of mathematician Albert Einstein "God does not play dice with the Universe."
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                              • mikadonovan
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                                Re: Any stargazers out there...?

                                Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                                Interesting... Picture. I can only assume the information is as you say.

                                I believe two highly noted people are on public record for making statements about Mars missions.

                                I believe the media asked Buz Aldrin what he would like to do next, he stated "He would
                                like to see NASA go back to Mars." He spoke in the past tense like NASA had already been there before.

                                I believe President Obama is on record for stating he would like to help organisations go back to Mars.

                                If you're inclined to believe in the Sci-fi area, the US military have all ready got a base on Mars. Apparently the Philadelphia experiments with the warship USS Eldridge have advanced enough to allow the scientist of the day to open up the seventh seal. The term I've heard is call LERM or Light Energy Reality Matrix.

                                The universe is a light energy holographic matrix with a finite set of laws that allows for an
                                infinite set of holograms to co-exist in multiple layers and levels within a relative frame of motion. Ie. a Holographic matrix or quantum physics. Forget the Rutherford model of the atom, it is incomplete. Forget the electron particle-wave "duality theory" its is basically nonsense, the electron is a wave. There are many matrices within matrices, Universes within Universes.

                                For those into spiritual or the science of metaphysics, it could be said that "God is an isotropic line fluctuating simultaneously on all points at once". Ie. a Fractal Holographic Matrix. A matrix has a finite known fixed set of mathematical laws.

                                Universal scale mathematics means intelligence in any language.

                                In the immortal words of mathematician Albert Einstein "God does not play dice with the Universe."
                                Sounds like another explorer that knows all is not immediately evident to us. Just be careful, Neo. Don't fall into exploring your "sense of being" (That is the most accurate way I can explain something that really can't be defined by words) without retaining a strong sense of empathy and compassion. We certainly don't want to end up like a privileged, narcissistic self serving member of the Scientology group. As an individual we are neither better or worse than anybody else, we just "are". May we evolve well.
                                Oh, and as far as the Mars base story, google it for the details.
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