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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    #1456
    Weather Service is now hiring back hundreds of positions that got cut in the DOGE chaos


    The National Weather Service has received permission to hire 450 meteorologists, hydrologists and radar technicians just months after being hit hard by Department of Government Efficiency-related cuts and early retirement incentives.

    The new hiring number includes 126 new positions that were previously approved and will apply to “front-line mission critical” personnel, a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration official said.

    The NWS cuts have spurred concerns over how well-prepared the country is to withstand hurricane season, which is just starting to heat up in the Atlantic. The staff reductions also have been scrutinized in the wake of the deadly Texas floods in July, with vacancies at weather service forecast offices there.

    The cuts to probationary employees, as well as early retirement incentives, meant the nation’s front-line weather forecasting agency’s staffing levels fell by more than 550 people since the second Trump administration began, to below 4,000 total employees.

    Agency employees are greeting the news, unveiled at an all hands meeting on Monday, with guarded optimism and relief. Current employees have been working additional hours with additional responsibilities since the layoffs and retirements earlier this year, trying to maintain the 24/7 posture US extreme weather requires. The agency has also been functioning with less data from fewer, less frequent weather balloon launches.

    The announcement was also met with frustration over the people the agency lost in the failed attempt at government savings.

    “How much time/money is it going to cost to train a bunch of new people when we had already-trained people in place?” asked another NOAA official, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media. It is possible that some of the new hires will have been previously trained employees who were let go in the DOGE cuts.

    The first NOAA official said there is going to be a focus on hiring in a smart, “asymmetric” way that is “based on workload.”

    The NWS, aided by lawmakers on Capitol Hill, had been arguing for months for a public safety exemption from the federal hiring freeze. That exemption has been granted, and the agency now has direct hiring authority under the Office of Personnel Management, the official told CNN.

    Direct hiring authority, according to OPM’s website, can be given to federal agencies “for filling vacancies when a critical hiring need or severe shortage of candidates exists.” It can help speed up the hiring process, the NOAA official said.

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    • Mako
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      #1457
      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy

      .... please close your eyes everytime you see an EV drive down the road. EV sales continue to accelerate around the world.
      Without petroleum products, no EVs exist. You can't conveniently manufacture much of anything without it.

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      • slimslob
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        #1458
        Originally posted by Mako

        The transition away from petroleum seems impossible. A pipe dream. We rely heavily on it for just about every aspect of modern life. Without petroleum products we'd be living like its 1850.
        Remember the July 13–14, 1977 blackout in New York City? I do. I had arrived in New York City on the 13th along with my employer for a NOMDA convention, National Office Machine Dealers Association. I had just gotten out of the elevator when the lights went out.The emergency halfway lights came on and I was able to find my room. I went to the window and watched the blackout spread across the entire city.

        Some power was restored about 7AM but the power was not restored to the entire city until just over 25 hours after the blackout started. If there had been only electric vehicles every one of them being driven that night would have had their batteries die. In addition the load on the grid of all those charging stations the next morning would have further delayed the full restoration of power.

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        • Copier Addict
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          #1459
          Originally posted by slimslob

          Remember the July 13–14, 1977 blackout in New York City? I do. I had arrived in New York City on the 13th along with my employer for a NOMDA convention, National Office Machine Dealers Association. I had just gotten out of the elevator when the lights went out.The emergency halfway lights came on and I was able to find my room. I went to the window and watched the blackout spread across the entire city.

          Some power was restored about 7AM but the power was not restored to the entire city until just over 25 hours after the blackout started. If there had been only electric vehicles every one of them being driven that night would have had their batteries die. In addition the load on the grid of all those charging stations the next morning would have further delayed the full restoration of power.
          If every vehicle was battery powered at that time, the grid would have been robust enough to handle it.

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          • BillyCarpenter
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            #1460
            Originally posted by Copier Addict

            If every vehicle was battery powered at that time, the grid would have been robust enough to handle it.
            Sounds like a liberal campaign promise. Are you an idiot? C'mon man.
            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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            • slimslob
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              #1461
              Originally posted by Copier Addict


              If every vehicle was battery powered at that time, the grid would have been robust enough to handle it.
              Obviously you do not understand electrical transmission grids and how vulnerable they are. I have seen a single broken 12KV distribution line require shutting power off to 25,000 customers. A failure at the substation where it had to be shut off at could take multiple neighborhoods. And you are probably stupid enough to think terrorists don't know that.

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              • BillyCarpenter
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                #1462
                Originally posted by slimslob

                Obviously you do not understand electrical transmission grids and how vulnerable they are. I have seen a single broken 12KV distribution line require shutting power off to 25,000 customers. A failure at the substation where it had to be shut off at could take multiple neighborhoods. And you are probably stupid enough to think terrorists don't know that.
                The dude supports terrorists all day long.
                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                • Copier Addict
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                  #1463
                  Originally posted by slimslob

                  Obviously you do not understand electrical transmission grids and how vulnerable they are. I have seen a single broken 12KV distribution line require shutting power off to 25,000 customers. A failure at the substation where it had to be shut off at could take multiple neighborhoods. And you are probably stupid enough to think terrorists don't know that.
                  Obviously you don't understand progress. If there had been battery powered cars all along, the grid would have been built to sustain the needed draw. I hope that is clear enough to get though that Maga brain fog

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    #1464
                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                    The dude supports terrorists all day long.
                    I have never supported Israel and their systemised terror

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                    • SalesServiceGuy
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                      #1465
                      .... since the days you are talking about there has been significant battery storage, wind & solar introduced to the grid.

                      Everyday oil is becoming less important to the world because if man does not adapt the earth will continue to rise in temperature making life unbearable for all species.

                      Sure there will always be a place for petroleum based engines, it just gets less everyday.

                      The are a lot of schills on this forum for the oil industry.

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                      • SalesServiceGuy
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                        #1466
                        Originally posted by Mako

                        Without petroleum products, no EVs exist. You can't conveniently manufacture much of anything without it.
                        Tesla uses a combination of renewable energy sources to manufacture EVs, with a goal of achieving self-reliance in energy production at their factories. This includes on-site solar power, wind energy, and geothermal sources, as well as the use of sustainable materials and energy sources from their suppliers. They also aim to power their Supercharger network with 100% renewable energy.
                        Here's a more detailed breakdown:
                        • Renewable Energy Sources:
                          Tesla factories utilize solar power, wind energy, and geothermal energy to reduce their reliance on fossil fuels.
                        • Gigafactory Nevada:
                          This factory, a major battery production hub, is designed to be self-reliant, using on-site solar, wind, and geothermal sources to power its operations.
                        • Gigafactory New York:
                          This facility focuses on manufacturing solar roof tiles, solar panels, and electrical components for Tesla's Supercharger network.
                        • Sustainable Materials and Suppliers:
                          Tesla works with suppliers who also prioritize sustainable materials and energy sources in their operations.
                        • Supercharger Network:
                          Tesla is committed to powering its Supercharger network with 100% renewable energy.

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                        • Copier Addict
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                          #1467
                          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                          Sounds like a liberal campaign promise. Are you an idiot? C'mon man.
                          Sounds like you don't understand how progress works. Let's say cars had been battery powered from the start. The electrical grid would have been designed for it. Therefore if tens of millions of people were charging there cars at the same time it wouldn't put a strain on the system.

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                          • BillyCarpenter
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                            #1468
                            Originally posted by Copier Addict

                            Sounds like you don't understand how progress works. Let's say cars had been battery powered from the start. The electrical grid would have been designed for it. Therefore if tens of millions of people were charging there cars at the same time it wouldn't put a strain on the system.
                            Sure, bud, and you believed Biden on illegal immigration when he said it was Trump's fault because he wouldn't pass the needed legislation. You're a fool. Always and forever.
                            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                            • Copier Addict
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                              #1469
                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                              Sure, bud, and you believed Biden on illegal immigration when he said it was Trump's fault because he wouldn't pass the needed legislation. You're a fool. Always and forever.
                              Do you even know what Slim and I were talking about, or do you just mention Biden in every post?

                              He said in 1977 if people had plugged in their electric car it would have brought down the grid. I said if everyone in 1977 had a battery powered car, the grid would have been engineered to withstand it. Those steroids must be going to your head. Lay off

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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                #1470
                                Originally posted by Copier Addict

                                Do you even know what Slim and I were talking about, or do you just mention Biden in every post?

                                He said in 1977 if people had plugged in their electric car it would have brought down the grid. I said if everyone in 1977 had a battery powered car, the grid would have been engineered to withstand it. Those steroids must be going to your head. Lay off
                                No, i understand that you pulled that statement out your ass .
                                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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