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...He's a Jewish multi-billionaire philanthropist who has given away $32bn. Why does the hard right from America to Australia and from Hungary to Honduras believe George Soros is at the heart of a global conspiracy
One quiet Monday afternoon last October in leafy upstate New York, a large manila envelope was placed in the mailbox of an exclusive country mansion belonging to multi-billionaire philanthropist George Soros.


The package looked suspicious. The return address was misspelt as "FLORIDS" and the mail had already been delivered earlier that day. The police were called and soon the FBI was on the scene.


Inside the bubble-wrapped envelope was a photograph of Soros, marked with a red "X". Alongside it, a six-inch plastic pipe, a small clock, a battery, wiring and a black powder.


More than a dozen similar packages were sent to the homes of former President Barack Obama, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other prominent Democrats.


None of the devices exploded. The FBI traced the bombs to a white van covered in pro-Trump and anti-Democrat stickers, parked in a supermarket car park in Florida.


Immediately the right-wing media claimed it was a "false-flag" operation intended to derail President Donald Trump and the Republican campaign, just two weeks before the crucial US mid-term elections.


Fox Business host Lou Dobbs tweeted: "Fake News - Fake Bombs. Who could possibly benefit by so much fakery?" Conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh added: "Republicans just don't do this kind of thing."


Soon the internet was awash with allegations that the bomb plot was a hoax organised by Soros himself.


President Trump condemned the "despicable acts", but when a member of the audience at a White House reception shouted "Soros! Lock him up!" the president seemed amused.


Then a 56-year-old Florida man called Cesar Sayoc was arrested.


Conspiracy theories claimed he wasn't actually a Republican. But Luigi Marra, a former work colleague, told me how Sayoc used to deliver pizzas in his van plastered with pro-Trump stickers and argue with customers if they had Democratic posters at their homes.



"Everything for him was a conspiracy theory, everything. George Soros was the one behind everything, he was the one buying the whole Democratic Party, he was the epicentre of what is going wrong in the United States of America."


Sayoc's social media revealed more. On the day the pipe bomb was discovered at George Soros's house, Sayoc reposted a meme claiming, "The world is waking up to the horrors of George Soros."


But it was Donald Trump's election victory that took the attacks on Soros to a new and dangerous level.

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Eight months into Trump's presidency, in August 2017, neo-Nazis held a torchlit procession in Charlottesville, Virginia. Clashes with counter-protesters ended in tragedy, when a white supremacist drove a car into a crowd and killed 32-year-old Heather Heyer.

Among US right-wingers it was soon claimed that the violence was orchestrated and financed by Soros, in order to tarnish the reputation of President Trump. And they said the key to the secret plot was a man called Brennan Gilmore, who filmed the car being driven into the counter-protesters. Right-wing radio host Alex Jones claimed Gilmore was paid $320,000 a year by Soros and was part of a deep-state coup to oust the president.

But any connection was extremely tenuous.

While it's true that Soros gave $500,000 to the political campaign of Tom Perriello - a Democratic candidate for governor of Virginia whom Gilmore had worked for - there's no evidence Soros or the Open Society directed or paid protesters at Charlottesville. Gilmore, who never received any money from Soros, is now suing Alex Jones and several others for defamation.

Since then, the attacks on Soros have kept coming, and only intensified.

Last autumn thousands of migrants left Honduras bound for the USA, just a month before the mid-term elections that threatened to weaken Republican control of Congress.

Immediately the so-called migrant caravan was blamed on Soros. Fox News repeatedly broadcast claims that Soros wanted open borders and unrestricted immigration.

Jack Kingston, a former Republican Congressman, told me: "It is a very organised effort and somebody is behind this, somebody is paying for some of this and it would be typical of George Soros to get involved in that."

For his part, President Trump retweeted a video that claimed to show cash being handed out to people in Honduras to "storm the US border", with a suggestion that the cash might have come from Soros.

When asked outside the White House whether Soros was funding the migrant caravan, he replied: "I wouldn't be surprised. A lot of people say yes."

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What's more, the video President Trump retweeted quickly turned out to be flawed.

Within hours, journalists discovered the footage was not filmed in Honduras as originally claimed, but in the neighbouring country of Guatemala, and a closer look at the clip showed at least one of the supposed aid workers was armed.

The migrant caravan was filmed throughout its entire journey. Local charities were seen helping the migrants. But there is no evidence of Soros funding at any point.

On 27 October 2018, 11 days after the first conspiracy theory surfaced about the migrant caravan, and five days after the pipe bomb was delivered to Soros's house, a white man armed with an assault rifle and three handguns walked into a synagogue in Pittsburgh. There he murdered 11 Jews.

It was the worst act of anti-Semitic violence in US history - and it was carried out by a man obsessed with George Soros.

The social media posts of the gunman, Robert Bowers, revealed he believed in a dark anti-Semitic conspiracy theory called "white genocide", with Soros as the mastermind.

The theory claims white people are being replaced by immigrants and will ultimately be eliminated. It explains the neo-Nazis' chant, "Jews will not replace us!" as they marched through Charlottesville.

As Michael Ignatieff, the president and rector of the Central European University that Soros founded, puts it: "The Orban government has decided to make Mr Soros public enemy number one".

So how did this happen?

The answer lies in upstate New York.

In 2013, when the Hungarian leader needed advice on getting re-elected, he approached a legendary political consultant, called Arthur Finkelstein (no relation of Joel), who used to work in a small office above a hairdresser's in Irvington, just 20 miles down the road from Soros's country mansion.

Arthur Finkelstein, who died in 2017, worked for Donald Trump, George Bush senior, Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon and is renowned for making "liberal" a dirty word in politics.

Finkelstein created a new style of politics dubbed "Finkel Think", says Hannes Grassegger, a reporter for the Swiss publication, Das Magazin.

"Arthur Finkelstein always said, 'You don't go against the Taliban, you go against Osama Bin Laden.' So it's about personalisation, picking the perfect enemy and then [you] go full on against that person, so that people are actually scared of your opponent. And never talk about your own candidate's policies, they don't matter at all."

Finkelstein realised the best way to get Orban elected was to find a new enemy. He suggested Soros, and it was a perfect choice, Grassegger says. "The very right hated him because he was Jewish, people at the very left hated him because he was a capitalist."

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...He's a Jewish multi-billionaire philanthropist who has given away $32bn. Why does the hard right from America to Australia and from Hungary to Honduras believe George Soros is at the heart of a global conspiracy
One quiet Monday afternoon last October in leafy upstate New York, a large manila envelope was placed in the mailbox of an exclusive country mansion belonging to multi-billionaire philanthropist George Soros.


The package looked suspicious. The return address was misspelt as "FLORIDS" and the mail had already been delivered earlier that day. The police were called and soon the FBI was on the scene.


Inside the bubble-wrapped envelope was a photograph of Soros, marked with a red "X". Alongside it, a six-inch plastic pipe, a small clock, a battery, wiring and a black powder.


More than a dozen similar packages were sent to the homes of former President Barack Obama, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other prominent Democrats.


None of the devices exploded. The FBI traced the bombs to a white van covered in pro-Trump and anti-Democrat stickers, parked in a supermarket car park in Florida.


Immediately the right-wing media claimed it was a "false-flag" operation intended to derail President Donald Trump and the Republican campaign, just two weeks before the crucial US mid-term elections.


Fox Business host Lou Dobbs tweeted: "Fake News - Fake Bombs. Who could possibly benefit by so much fakery?" Conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh added: "Republicans just don't do this kind of thing."


Soon the internet was awash with allegations that the bomb plot was a hoax organised by Soros himself.


President Trump condemned the "despicable acts", but when a member of the audience at a White House reception shouted "Soros! Lock him up!" the president seemed amused.


Then a 56-year-old Florida man called Cesar Sayoc was arrested.


Conspiracy theories claimed he wasn't actually a Republican. But Luigi Marra, a former work colleague, told me how Sayoc used to deliver pizzas in his van plastered with pro-Trump stickers and argue with customers if they had Democratic posters at their homes.



"Everything for him was a conspiracy theory, everything. George Soros was the one behind everything, he was the one buying the whole Democratic Party, he was the epicentre of what is going wrong in the United States of America."


Sayoc's social media revealed more. On the day the pipe bomb was discovered at George Soros's house, Sayoc reposted a meme claiming, "The world is waking up to the horrors of George Soros."


But it was Donald Trump's election victory that took the attacks on Soros to a new and dangerous level.

Soros turned Jewish people into the Nazis .. to be jailed and killed.
That may be one reason people hate him.
He gives his money to people that want to destroy their part of the world.
He is a vile prick, but I understand why you like him, because he thinks like you.

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... whoa, that is both laughable and some very anti-Semitic stuff!

Soros is their catchall boogeyman. I'll bet they even believe he was on the grassy knoll. Lol

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Soros turned Jewish people into the Nazis .. to be jailed and killed.
That may be one reason people hate him.
He gives his money to people that want to destroy their part of the world.
He is a vile prick, but I understand why you like him, because he thinks like you.

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.. During WWII, George Soros was a young 14 year old teenage Jew living in Budapest under Nazi rule forced to work for his oppressors to stay alive. At 17, he left his home country and moved to England where eventually he made his fortune speculating on currency exchange swaps.

What is vile is people like you who constantly suck in and spread disinformation about someone or something you usually know almost nothing about.

Please, please, please find any historical reference to to George Soros turning his own people into the Nazis!

He admitted at 14 to working with his protector to confiscate the belongings of Jews after they were collected by the Nazis but he never turned any Jews in to the Nazis.

That lie has been totally debunked yet it is constantly recycled by the far right media and the GOP to bolster their crass and mean spirited political purposes.

You are so very fortunate that you never lived during the Holocaust and were never forced to make the life and death choices that George Soros had to make.

What evidence do you have that George Soros gives money to groups who want to destroy other people's way of life? Are you spreading more lies?

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One-Two Punch: MSNBC Loses Rachel Maddow, Ratings Battle with Fox on Nightmarish Day for Network

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One-Two Punch: MSNBC Loses Rachel Maddow, Ratings Battle with Fox on Nightmarish Day for Network

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.... one weeks worth of data in the TV business is as valuable as a fart in the wind.

1	bbc.co.uk and bbc.com	1.1bn	−13	6
2	msn.com	882.5m	−3	−1
3	cnn.com and edition.cnn.com	612.7m	−27	4

... with the 2nd highest readership in the world, MSNBC posses tremendous resources and is going nowhere.

TV evening opinion/ news is getting pretty boring now anyways with the constant left right nitpicking that so dominates US news.

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It appears that NBC Ch4 in Columbus does not know the difference between an AR15 and a pump shotgun.
News outlet released "deadly AR-15" video, but forgot to include one important thing

Here's the video on YouTube.

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It appears that NBC Ch4 in Columbus does not know the difference between an AR15 and a pump shotgun.
News outlet released "deadly AR-15" video, but forgot to include one important thing

Here's the video on YouTube.

I'm not surprised.

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Mayor Plans to Seize Guns of Citizens Who Haven't Paid 'Fee' to Exercise Their 2nd Amendment Rights

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How many times are you going to post this BS?

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