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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    Re: Do you trust the media?

    HBO's John Oliver dedicated his entire 21-minute show on Sunday night to a deep dive into false information being peddled by Fox News and other conservative media outlets about the coronavirus, and the impacts those falsehoods are having on President Donald Trump and his decision-making.

    John Oliver described Fox News' coronavirus coverage:

    "They only pretend to believe these things on television for money."

    The point Oliver was making was that even as many Fox News anchors were pushing the idea that coronavirus was less virulent than the flu and that it was the product of a hyper-partisan media trying to "get" Trump, the company was warning its employees to stay at home and "reducing the staff footprint at our headquarters in New York."

    Why the contrast between what their anchors were pushing and the internal guidance being given to staff?

    Because, as Oliver rightly notes, Fox News is in the business of selling a certain kind of news to its largely conservative (and very large) viewer base. And that "news" is generally speaking, centered around the idea that the mainstream media is in cahoots with Democrats to screw, frighten and otherwise mistreat the average Joe and Jane out there.

    Or, as Oliver put it: "Many in conservative media have found it easy to fold this virus into narratives that they have been carefully building up for decades."

    Fox News played the coronavirus story as they play virtually every other story -- as an indictment of the media and its biases.

    The truth here is that Fox News knows exactly what it's doing. It has created a brand that revolves around its viewers' distrust in societal pillars like government, the education system and, yes, the media. Every story -- and I mean every story -- is funneled through that lens.

    The most noxious part of all of this is that Fox News is covering the story this way not because it agrees with with known facts or because they believe it's the "real" narrative but rather because they know that covering the coronavirus pandemic this way means more viewers -- and more money to sell ads.

    Fox News has spent years conditioning their regular viewers to believe that anything "the media" -- or any other establishment institution (other than them), of course -- must not be telling the whole truth about anything. And that the reason the establishment isn't telling the truth is because the truth is somehow bad for them.

    It's an incredibly vicious cycle -- and has been for a long time. But it's never been as clear as it is right now.


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    • FrohnB
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      #122
      Re: Do you trust the media?

      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
      HBO's John Oliver dedicated his entire 21-minute show on Sunday night to a deep dive into false information being peddled by Fox News and other conservative media outlets about the coronavirus, and the impacts those falsehoods are having on President Donald Trump and his decision-making.

      John Oliver described Fox News' coronavirus coverage:

      "They only pretend to believe these things on television for money."

      The point Oliver was making was that even as many Fox News anchors were pushing the idea that coronavirus was less virulent than the flu and that it was the product of a hyper-partisan media trying to "get" Trump, the company was warning its employees to stay at home and "reducing the staff footprint at our headquarters in New York."

      Why the contrast between what their anchors were pushing and the internal guidance being given to staff?

      Because, as Oliver rightly notes, Fox News is in the business of selling a certain kind of news to its largely conservative (and very large) viewer base. And that "news" is generally speaking, centered around the idea that the mainstream media is in cahoots with Democrats to screw, frighten and otherwise mistreat the average Joe and Jane out there.

      Or, as Oliver put it: "Many in conservative media have found it easy to fold this virus into narratives that they have been carefully building up for decades."

      Fox News played the coronavirus story as they play virtually every other story -- as an indictment of the media and its biases.

      The truth here is that Fox News knows exactly what it's doing. It has created a brand that revolves around its viewers' distrust in societal pillars like government, the education system and, yes, the media. Every story -- and I mean every story -- is funneled through that lens.

      The most noxious part of all of this is that Fox News is covering the story this way not because it agrees with with known facts or because they believe it's the "real" narrative but rather because they know that covering the coronavirus pandemic this way means more viewers -- and more money to sell ads.

      Fox News has spent years conditioning their regular viewers to believe that anything "the media" -- or any other establishment institution (other than them), of course -- must not be telling the whole truth about anything. And that the reason the establishment isn't telling the truth is because the truth is somehow bad for them.

      It's an incredibly vicious cycle -- and has been for a long time. But it's never been as clear as it is right now.


      Exact same things can be said about CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC!
      Fox News isn't the only "guilty party" in media that "panders to it's base".
      Other networks and publications have been consistently called out for falsehoods lately, and only SOME "correct their errors".
      It's always been a battle between conservative media and liberal media. At least it has been since I've been on this Earth.

      Hard to believe either side of the "news" these days. Mostly Opinion and "Analysis" anymore, not Straight News.
      Omertà

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      • Phil B.
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        #123
        Re: Do you trust the media?

        Originally posted by FrohnB
        Exact same things can be said about CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC!
        Fox News isn't the only "guilty party" in media that "panders to it's base".
        Other networks and publications have been consistently called out for falsehoods lately, and only SOME "correct their errors".
        It's always been a battle between conservative media and liberal media. At least it has been since I've been on this Earth.

        Hard to believe either side of the "news" these days. Mostly Opinion and "Analysis" anymore, not Straight News.
        That's why I don't rely just on MSM ( yes Faux included ) for information.

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        • FrohnB
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          Re: Do you trust the media?

          NBC News Chief Out; Reports: NY Attorney General Investigating Network | The Daily Wire
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          • Tricky
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            #125
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            • FrohnB
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              Fuck the Media! Especially the liberal media! One thing I've done during this whole covid thing, is watch WAAYY less T.V./ News. Much less stressed because of it.

              The reason i say fuck the media (Especially CNN), is for issues like this:
              CNN Had a total of 705 different stories/ reports/ opinions of the Brett Kavanaugh/ Ballsy Ford episode. ALL of them slamming Brett and praising Christine and her "courageousness".
              As of today there are maybe a dozen articles from CNN (mostly opinion pieces) about the Biden/ Reade allegations, and ALL of them essentially say, "We don't believe Ms. Reade." or "Tara's Thin allegations against a Potential President", or "You can't leave out Ms. Reade's past", or "Ms. Reade's complaint 'if it even exists at all' against the presumptive democrat nominee".
              Ms. Reade and her lawyers had to actually approach CNN to get them to say anything about the allegations, and now that they're saying something, it's all to Prop up Biden and try to discredit her.
              WTF!? Fuck CNN.

              Liberal Media will do Anything to get the opportunity to choke on the cocks of their Democrat overlords.
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              • Copier Addict
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                #127
                Re: Do you trust the media?

                Originally posted by FrohnB
                Fuck the Media! Especially the liberal media! One thing I've done during this whole covid thing, is watch WAAYY less T.V./ News. Much less stressed because of it.

                The reason i say fuck the media (Especially CNN), is for issues like this:
                CNN Had a total of 705 different stories/ reports/ opinions of the Brett Kavanaugh/ Ballsy Ford episode. ALL of them slamming Brett and praising Christine and her "courageousness".
                As of today there are maybe a dozen articles from CNN (mostly opinion pieces) about the Biden/ Reade allegations, and ALL of them essentially say, "We don't believe Ms. Reade." or "Tara's Thin allegations against a Potential President", or "You can't leave out Ms. Reade's past", or "Ms. Reade's complaint 'if it even exists at all' against the presumptive democrat nominee".
                Ms. Reade and her lawyers had to actually approach CNN to get them to say anything about the allegations, and now that they're saying something, it's all to Prop up Biden and try to discredit her.
                WTF!? Fuck CNN.

                Liberal Media will do Anything to get the opportunity to choke on the cocks of their Democrat overlords.
                Again, ignoring the fact the the right wing media downplayed the Kavanagh sexual assault accusation from Balisey Ford.
                Why are you trying to imply that one "news" source is any more truthful than another?

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                • FrohnB
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                  #128
                  Re: Do you trust the media?

                  Originally posted by copier addict
                  Again, ignoring the fact the the right wing media downplayed the Kavanagh sexual assault accusation from Balisey Ford.
                  Why are you trying to imply that one "news" source is any more truthful than another?
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                  • qbert69
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                    #129
                    Re: Do you trust the media?

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                    • SalesServiceGuy
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                      #130
                      Re: Do you trust the media?

                      Who do you trust less? The media or that the people in power have your best interests in mind?

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                      • Copier Addict
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                        #131
                        Re: Do you trust the media?

                        She admitted no such thing. Donny boy made that up.
                        And your statement is ignoring what the right wing "news" sources were reporting, or more like not reporting at the time of the accusations

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                        • Phil B.
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                          #132
                          Re: Do you trust the media?

                          Originally posted by copier addict
                          Again, ignoring the fact the the right wing media downplayed the Kavanagh sexual assault accusation from Balisey Ford.
                          Why are you trying to imply that one "news" source is any more truthful than another?
                          If he isn't I am. For decades the left wing MSM has been way lopsided in their reporting. Sorry you swallow their BS.
                          Don't try to say I get mine from FAUX news.
                          I DON'T

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                          • Phil B.
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                            #133
                            Re: Do you trust the media?

                            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                            Who do you trust less? The media or that the people in power have your best interests in mind?
                            Depends on the people.
                            Media? Hell Fucking No

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                            • SalesServiceGuy
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                              #134
                              Re: Do you trust the media?

                              Originally posted by Phil B.
                              Depends on the people.
                              Media? Hell Fucking No

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                              Which people in power do you trust?

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                              • NeoMatrix
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                                #135
                                Re: Do you trust the media?

                                Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                                Which people in power do you trust?
                                The Law-Of-Confusion in a duality world. Disinformation agencies are very good at LOC.
                                Every one, "I mean everyone" from Kings to Lepers are looking for someone to trust in their time of desperation. Right or wrong you are forced to choose sides until the rightful path is found. We live in a universe of positive negative duality forces. The duality of force is the fundamental building blocks of all that exists. With out one casement you cannot have the other. Which side are you going to choose? Which side has the correct path?

                                Sometimes it's a case of choosing the lesser evil.

                                Who have read the below quote?
                                How many fail the simple comprehension?


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                                An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. “A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy.
                                “It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.” He continued, “The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.”

                                The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, “Which wolf will win?”

                                The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”
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