Latest on the Corona Virus

[BillyCarpenter]

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The US govt last week updated the survival rates (i.e., IF infected) for Covid19:

Age:

0-19 99.997%
20-49 99.98%
50-69 99.5%
70+ 94.6%

Didn't see it reported much.

https://cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

[bsm2]

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The US govt last week updated the survival rates (i.e., IF infected) for Covid19:

Age:

0-19 99.997%
20-49 99.98%
50-69 99.5%
70+ 94.6%

Didn't see it reported much.

https://cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

Now You believe the CDC aren't you a believer the numbers are Fake?
I am sure the 200,000 dead Americans appreciate the data.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Now You believe the CDC aren't you a believer the numbers are Fake?

I never said any numbers are fake.

[BillyCarpenter]

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statistics... is always hindsight, can be cherrypicked, can be falsely constructed on purpose or by accident, can by falsely interpreted on purpose or by accident.

i'm not saying at all that anyone specifically dont have a point, you all do have your points. But as to statistics, there's a flaw in its use.

We are using Hindsight for Hindsight, as in, we are using only the results to predict the next batch of events as it concludes but seldom the process and details leading up to the results. Kinda says the insecure nature of of society in general but at the same time reflect our intelligence for part marks?

The wealth culture often quote the billionaire/millionaire stats, "80% of them is self made." Well, I know ten race drivers that drive race cars. That's not saying much.

If the the subject of the study is comprised of complex analysis and data, simple numbers will not convey any meaning. Its the same as saying the median price of sold new cars in USA at 2018 is $35k usd, and use that as the affordability index and make the claim that 35k cars are "cheap" (Tesla goons sometime ago like to use this). What purpose that 35k number serve? NOTHING.

So while the fatality rate may present itself however you perceive it, do we understand this virus thing completely to say "its not that bad.?"


the easiet compromise is to put on face covering in closed space, what's wrong with that? in fact, EVERYONE LOOKS ATTRACTIVE!! I found more folks look me in the eyes LOL

anyways, i'll show myself out as usual..

That's one of the more reasonable takes I've read on here. I have no problem wearing a mask. I don't think most do. However...about these shutdowns....

At what cost are we gonna continue to shut it down for something that MAY happen? These shutdowns are ruining lives and a lot of dem politicians don't suffer the same fate nor do they play by the same rules.

[BLADE]

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lots of younger / middle age people reporting (on youtube) lasting symptoms such as lung scarring (cystic fibrosis) etc . That would effect employment etc long term

[BillyCarpenter]

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lots of younger / middle age people reporting (on youtube) lasting symptoms such as lung scarring (cystic fibrosis) etc . That would effect employment etc long term

I've read something about scarring but nothing concrete and I'm not really putting a lot of credibility in youtube. How many do you suppose this is affecting?

[BillyCarpenter]

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supposedly the logic they are following is

because there's increase in cases(even with false positive and motivs), the irrefutable is people traffic, because it will take so much time to track and attempt to "moderate", but its puts less burden on the admin and faster to make system wide policy.

imagine a control loop, the admin set out a target and adj accordingly, but the process isnt responding, what would admin do? Turn the dial up to 11? Is that admin's fault? You can say yes and no, but its not theirs alone(even if they have agendas).

The tricky part is the participants. There are loopholes and loophole takers you never know what folks will do regardless of race/class.


best case i think of is the bike helmet debate, not everyone will wear them.

We can debate corona guidelines/polices til the cows come home. Democrats are the ones advocating heavy handed policy. Yet, to a man they have allowed BLM to protest in huge numbers across the country.

Why would anyone follow democrats lead when it only applies to some?

And again, there's a heavy price to pay for individuals that are in democrat controlled states/cities. Folks are going broke. How much longer can we do this?

[BLADE]

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I've read something about scarring but nothing concrete and I'm not really putting a lot of credibility in youtube. How many do you suppose this is affecting?

the youtube clips Ive seen are out takes from various tv programs from various countries but they have a similar theme. As for numbers, someone will probably come up with ratio to death numbers maybe

[BillyCarpenter]

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its not a political issue. Its way harder.

Allow me to retort. It's not SUPPOSED to be a political issue, but it IS.

But lets assume you're right.

Do we both agree that democrats are allowing massive gatherings by Black Lives Matter with no social distancing and for all others, you can't even go gather in groups larger than 10 or so? Is that true? I'm gonna assume your answer is a whopping YES?

Again, why should I listen to democrats who want me to follow their lead? Why should I play by a different set of rules? Is that what leadership is these days? I don't think so.

[slimslob]

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the youtube clips Ive seen are out takes from various tv programs from various countries but they have a similar theme. As for numbers, someone will probably come up with ratio to death numbers maybe

Fatality rate for those who have contracted SARS-CoV-2 :

3.05% world wide
2.89% in the USA

These numbers are computed by dividing the total number of deaths by the total number of cases. Bear in mind that the reported number of deaths includes anyone who died after testing positive for SARS-CoV-2, no matter what the actual cause of death was.

Things that have killed more people worldwide than SARS-CoV-2:

Road traffic accidents 990,764
HIV/AIDS 1,233,829
Alcohol 1,835,703
Smoking 3,699,101
Cancer 6,027,990
Abortion 31,232,920 and counting

The above numbers are running total and will have increased. Source is:

Worldometer - real time world statistics

[Copier Addict]

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Fatality rate for those who have contracted SARS-CoV-2 :

3.05% world wide
2.89% in the USA

These numbers are computed by dividing the total number of deaths by the total number of cases. Bear in mind that the reported number of deaths includes anyone who died after testing positive for SARS-CoV-2, no matter what the actual cause of death was.

Things that have killed more people worldwide than SARS-CoV-2:

Road traffic accidents 990,764
HIV/AIDS 1,233,829
Alcohol 1,835,703
Smoking 3,699,101
Cancer 6,027,990
Abortion 31,232,920 and counting

The above numbers are running total and will have increased. Source is:

Worldometer - real time world statistics

Don't forget age. Age kills way more people than all of the items you listed.

[bsm2]

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Fatality rate for those who have contracted SARS-CoV-2 :

3.05% world wide
2.89% in the USA

These numbers are computed by dividing the total number of deaths by the total number of cases. Bear in mind that the reported number of deaths includes anyone who died after testing positive for SARS-CoV-2, no matter what the actual cause of death was.

Things that have killed more people worldwide than SARS-CoV-2:

Road traffic accidents 990,764
HIV/AIDS 1,233,829
Alcohol 1,835,703
Smoking 3,699,101
Cancer 6,027,990
Abortion 31,232,920 and counting

The above numbers are running total and will have increased. Source is:

Worldometer - real time world statistics

I Am sure it's. comfort to the 200,000 plus dead Americans family's that died do to the Trump administration Complete Failure to warn and prepare to fight Covid19.
With still Zero nada National response or even a plan other than let everyone get infected.

[FrohnB]

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Israel reports highest ever daily spike in coronavirus infections

who need to be careful with any sort of disease

[Tricky]

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[BillyCarpenter]

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BREAKING: Florida Governor lifts COVID restrictions on restaurants and other businesses statewide. He also banned local fines against people who refuse to wear masks. - WFOR