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  • bsm2
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    #3931
    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
    Of course they made contracts with the rest of the world. I told you from the beginning that America would rescue the world from covid. Good ol vaccine made in the USA. One day you're gonna listen to me. We are the best in the world when it comes to medicine.
    You do know we're not the first to develop a vaccine?
    Try google

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      #3932
      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

      Originally posted by bsm2
      You do know we're not the first to develop a vaccine?
      Try google

      You're right. Russia was the first. Canada should get 'em some since they're so hostile to the USA.
      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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      • slimslob
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        #3933
        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        You're right. Russia was the first. Canada should get 'em some since they're so hostile to the USA.
        A Newsweek article published on 3/20/2020 quoted scientists at Kaiser Permanente Washington Health Research Institute as saying that the first vaccine trial for the virus will be mRNA-1273. It was developed by Moderna, a US company based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. 3 Countries Starting Coronavirus Vaccine Trials in Global Race to Stop COVID-19 Before End of Year Moderna - Wikipedia

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        • slimslob
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          #3934
          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
          You're right. Russia was the first. Canada should get 'em some since they're so hostile to the USA.
          I think China might have been first, they just are not admitting it. You do not develop a bio weapon without developing a vaccine at the same time.

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          • bsm2
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            #3935

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            • bsm2
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              #3936
              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

              Originally posted by slimslob
              I think China might have been first, they just are not admitting it. You do not develop a bio weapon without developing a vaccine at the same time.
              Since the Corona Virus is Not a bio weapon your post has no merit.

              Sorry conspiracy theories don't count.

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              • Copier Addict
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                #3937
                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                Originally posted by bsm2
                Since the Corona Virus is Not a bio weapon your post has no merit.

                Sorry conspiracy theories don't count.
                Jeez, that's harsh!! If conspiracy theories don't count what else does the right have to contribute?

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                • bsm2
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                  #3938
                  Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                  Oh No not another Trump Administration screwup

                  Pfizer tells U.S. officials it cannot supply substantial additional vaccine until late June or July
                  Trump administration officials deny there will be availability issues, but others say problems are possible in the second quarter.
                  (Joel Saget/AFP/Getty Images)
                  (Joel Saget/AFP/Getty Images)
                  By Laurie McGinley, Yasmeen Abutaleb and Carolyn Y. Johnson
                  Dec. 7, 2020 at 8:36 p.m. EST
                  Pfizer has told the Trump administration it cannot provide substantial additional doses of its coronavirus vaccine until late June or July because other countries have rushed to buy up most of its supply, according to multiple individuals familiar with the situation.

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                  That means the U.S. government may not be able to ramp up as rapidly as it had expected from the 100 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine that it purchased earlier this year, raising questions about whether it can keep to its aggressive schedule to vaccinate most Americans by late spring or early summer.

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                  • bsm2
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                    #3939
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                    • bsm2
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                      #3940
                      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                      Trump administration reportedly passed up more doses of COVID-19 vaccine

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                      • FrohnB
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                        #3941
                        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                        Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                        ...(1) more likely because in 43 days Trump will be no longer President and neither corporation wants to be associated with the Trump's politically charged America first order. (In response to BillyC's post about pfizer being miffed about Trump's executive order).

                        (2) Pfizer declined all Operation WarpSpeed funding from the USA.

                        (3)... both Pfizer and Moderna have made global contractual commitments to supply the vaccine to the world. <---For a Price!
                        (1) President Donald Trump's executive orders targeting U.S. drug prices has received heaps of scorn from the pharmaceutical industry and its lobbyists.


                        In an earnings call with investors, CEO Albert Bourla blasted Trump's executive orders to rein in drug prices as "an enormous distraction" and threatened the possibility of job cuts for U.S. workers. (Seems to me there might be some "bad blood" because they aren't going to be able to rape Americans' pocketbooks with ridiculous medicine prices anymore! It's not a political thing or an "America First" thing.........it's a MONEY thing, plain and simple).


                        (2) They may have declined "WarpSpeed funding" (research and development) from the US government, but they didn't hesitate for a second to accept a 2 Billion dollar advance back in July (early stages of 'Phase 2' testing) from our government to secure 100 million doses of the vaccine for American citizens. Operation WarpSpeed (whether they were part of it or not) pushed them to develop a vaccine that they could profit from, and faster than they normally would have because of the competition from all the other companies. They can't just let all those other companies get their hands in the cookie jar! They want a cookie too!

                        (3) Hopefully you are seeing the theme here. MONEY!! Of course they made commitments to the whole world!! Can you imagine how much money you could rake in if EVERY country on the planet was buying your product!?!? You can sit there and believe that they want to "better the world", but everyone knows they just want to "better their bank accounts".
                        Omertà

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                        • FrohnB
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                          #3942
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                          Originally posted by bsm2
                          Leading Covid-19 vaccine makers Pfizer and Moderna decline invitations to White House ‘Vaccine Summit’

                          Both Pfizer and Moderna, the two major drug manufacturers likely to receive emergency authorizations for a Covid-19 vaccine in the coming weeks, have rejected invitations from President Trump to appear at a White House “Vaccine Summit” on Tuesday, according to two sources familiar with the event’s planning.

                          I wonder Why?
                          Executives at Pfizer and Moderna said that this most recent vaccine summit didn't "fit their agenda". The summit is mainly for companies like Walgreens, CVS, FedEx, etc. to get everyone on board and to hammer out the fine details of the distribution (free for all americans by the way), and to convene leaders from the federal government, state governments, private sector, military, and scientific community for a comprehensive discussion with the American people as the administration prepares to deliver this historic, life-saving vaccine to every zip code in the United States within 24 hours of an FDA approval.
                          Omertà

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                          • bsm2
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                            #3943
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                            Nice spin but we all know the real reason

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                            • bsm2
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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                #3945
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                                Allow me to explain how an Executive Order works. Remember when Obama used an Executive Order to go around congress to enforce DACA? Yeah, that's how it works.
                                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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