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[Phil B.]

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Trump was doing better than Trudeau. Would you like to read the article again?

I'm sure that SGG can read AND comprehend ... unlike his FL buddy that can do neither. The real question is he WILLING TO READ the article?

My vote says No... and I base that on his past history in such a predicament.

[bsm2]

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no you missed my point... the loss of doses was not on delivery of the product BUT rather mishandling of the product once it got to the STATE level...

SOME OF THE LOSSES were due to INTENTIONAL actions.. one report (haven't found an update) it was an employee that was a staunch Trump hater ( like some here ) that employee left out over night 750 doses of the vax.

others have left out 300-659 doses FOR THE SAME REASON! These type actions put in risk American Citizens and there are a few that are under investigation for said actions.

others just didn't follow SOP on the handling of the product.

BTW love your selective paste and copy...

Just ignore the Facts Buddy that always for you people

[BillyCarpenter]

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I'm sure that SGG can read AND comprehend ... unlike his FL buddy that can do neither. The real question is he WILLING TO READ the article?

My vote says No... and I base that on his past history in such a predicament.

, and Israel had inoculated more than 18%, according to Our World in Data, a nonprofit research project at the University of Oxford. The U.K. had vaccinated about 1.9% of its population by Jan. 3, the latest date for which vaccination numbers were available.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/canada-struggles-to-distribute-covid-19-vaccines-11610114403

[SalesServiceGuy]

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no you missed my point... the loss of doses was not on delivery of the product BUT rather mishandling of the product once it got to the STATE level...

SOME OF THE LOSSES were due to INTENTIONAL actions.. one report (haven't found an update) it was an employee that was a staunch Trump hater ( like some here ) that employee left out over night 750 doses of the vax.

others have left out 300-659 doses FOR THE SAME REASON! These type actions put in risk American Citizens and there are a few that are under investigation for said actions.

others just didn't follow SOP on the handling of the product.

BTW love your selective paste and copy...

... if the losses are on the State level why are you trying to throw shade on the Federal gov't?

...in a healthcare system stressed out to the max trying to deal with the equivalent of 911 scale deaths everyday from COVID-19, I am certain a few healthcare workers make bad decisions. The daily and monthly stress on healthcare workers is intense.

[Copier Addict]

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By the measure that Trump was responsible for vaccinating 3x the percentage of the population as Trudeau. Why not swallow your pride and admit that is was Trudeau that failed. Not Trump.

Trudeau, like trump, has failed at lots of things. It is you that has trouble admitting it. As I stated many times before, we don't care if you bash trudeau. If fact it makes me laugh at how creative you can be. Lol

[BillyCarpenter]

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Trudeau, like trump, has failed at lots of things. It is you that has trouble admitting it. As I stated many times before, we don't care if you bash trudeau. If fact it makes me laugh at how creative you can be. Lol

Glad to see you admit that Trudeau failed Canada on the vaccine rollout.



Dr. Isaac Bogoch, an infectious diseases specialist affiliated with the University of Toronto, told CTV's Your Morning on Wednesday that, while Canada has "picked up the pace" on vaccine deployment, he would like to see a speedier rollout.

"Yes, things are definitely better, but you cannot have vaccines sitting in freezers. This is a crisis. You've got to get these into arms as quickly as possible," he said.
"It's the middle of January. We should be a well-oiled machine at this point in time."

At this pace, it would take 5,800 days to give every Canadians two doses of vaccine, meaning the final shots would be given in 2036.

In 29 days, Canada has given enough COVID-19 vaccine doses to cover 1 per cent of population | CTV News

[SalesServiceGuy]

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OTTAWA—Canadian authorities are scrambling to make up lost ground in their quest to vaccinate vulnerable people against Covid-19, after an initial rollout that many public-health officials are criticizing as slow and disorganized.

While Canada was quick to order vaccines and approved the use of the shot developed by Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE in early December—two days before the U.S. authorized it—the nation has fallen behind several of its developed-country peers in administering vaccinations.


Just over 0.5% of the population of the U.S.’s northern neighbor was vaccinated as of Wednesday. By comparison, the U.S. had vaccinated 1.6% of its population by that date, and Israel had inoculated more than 18%, according to Our World in Data, a nonprofit research project at the University of Oxford. The U.K. had vaccinated about 1.9% of its population by Jan. 3, the latest date for which vaccination numbers were available.
Public-health experts say Canadian officials have struggled to move vaccine doses quickly from industrial freezers where they need to be stored to long-term care facilities where elderly residents are among the first designated inoculation. The rollout has been complicated by a decentralized health system run by individual provinces and territories and by Ontario’s decision to pause vaccinations in the country’s most populous province for two days during the holidays


https://www.wsj.com/articles/canada-struggles-to-distribute-covid-19-vaccines-11610114403

... the article you refer to is from Jan 8th. No country in the world was doing well with its COVID-19 vaccination at that time.

... for the latest facts

The latest numbers on COVID-19 vaccinations in Canada as of 10:30 p.m. ET on Monday Jan. 25, 2021.
In Canada, the provinces are reporting 23,498 new vaccinations administered for a total of 839,949 doses given. The provinces have administered doses at a rate of 2,216.267 per 100,000.

There were zero new vaccines delivered to the provinces and territories for a total of 1,122,450 doses delivered so far. The provinces and territories have used 74.83 per cent of their available vaccine supply.

The figures are compiled by the COVID-19 Open Data Working Group based on the latest publicly available data and are subject to change. Note that some provinces report weekly, while others report same-day or figures from the previous day. Vaccine doses administered is not equivalent to the number of people inoculated as the approved vaccines require two doses per person. The vaccines are currently not being administered to children under 18 and those with certain health conditions.

Please note that Newfoundland, P.E.I., Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and the territories typically do not report on a daily basis.

[BillyCarpenter]

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... the article you refer to is from Jan 8th. No country in the world was doing well with its COVID-19 vaccination at that time.

... for the latest facts

The latest numbers on COVID-19 vaccinations in Canada as of 10:30 p.m. ET on Monday Jan. 25, 2021.
In Canada, the provinces are reporting 23,498 new vaccinations administered for a total of 839,949 doses given. The provinces have administered doses at a rate of 2,216.267 per 100,000.
There were zero new vaccines delivered to the provinces and territories for a total of 1,122,450 doses delivered so far. The provinces and territories have used 74.83 per cent of their available vaccine supply.

The figures are compiled by the COVID-19 Open Data Working Group based on the latest publicly available data and are subject to change. Note that some provinces report weekly, while others report same-day or figures from the previous day. Vaccine doses administered is not equivalent to the number of people inoculated as the approved vaccines require two doses per person. The vaccines are currently not being administered to children under 18 and those with certain health conditions.
Please note that Newfoundland, P.E.I., Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and the territories typically do not report on a daily basis.

I've told you that the USA vaccinated 3x as many folks at that time. Why do you keep saying that Trump failed? Are you even reading the article? I don't think you are.

[bsm2]

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[SalesServiceGuy]

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I've told you that the USA vaccinated 3x as many folks at that time. Why do you keep saying that Trump failed? Are you even reading the article? I don't think you are.

... the USA has approx 10x the population of Canada. When you consider the two countries vaccination rates, you have nothing to crow about.

[BillyCarpenter]

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... the USA has approx 10x the population of Canada. When you consider the two countries vaccination rates, you have nothing to crow about.

If you would actually read the article it says that the USA has vaccinated 3x the PERCETAGE of the population as compared with CANADA. Your premise that Trump failed is false and just the opposite is true. It's Trudeau that failed. Read the article.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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[QUOTE=BillyCarpenter;1672774]If you would actually read the article it says that the USA has vaccinated 3x the PERCETAGE of the population as compared with CANADA. Your premise that Trump failed is false and just the opposite is true. It's Trudeau that failed. Read the article.[/QUOTE

President Biden has declared that the Trump vaccination plan did not meets the needs of the nation with many gaps in policy and delivery.

The Canadian gov't goal is to vaccinate between 40-50% of the population by Sept. 2021.

[BillyCarpenter]

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If you would actually read the article it says that the USA has vaccinated 3x the PERCETAGE of the population as compared with CANADA. Your premise that Trump failed is false and just the opposite is true. It's Trudeau that failed. Read the article.[/QUOTE

President Biden has declared that the Trump vaccination plan did not meets the needs of the nation with many gaps in policy and delivery.

The Canadian gov't goal is to vaccinate between 40-50% of the population by Sept. 2021.

You're talking about "promises" and "goals". I'm talking about FACTS that disprove what you said about Trump being a failure on the rollout. It was Trudeau that failed.

[bsm2]

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You're talking about "promises" and "goals". I'm talking about FACTS that disprove what you said about Trump being a failure on the rollout. It was Trudeau that failed.

Yep Trump the Biggest number 1 Failure of an American President in History Quite a Record.

[slimslob]

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.. much of the early failures in vaccine distribution was because the Trump administration had no organized plan to deliver the vaccine to the states.

That is a direct liberal news lie. You are in Canada. Maybe in Canada the problem is with the Canadian government. I don't know about Canada because I am in the Democrat controlled state of California. Shipments of vaccine have been getting to California state officials with no problems. It is after those state officials have them that the slowdowns and mishandling occurs!