nonessential businesses or not

[slimslob]

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I would say that I should't "knowingly/intentionally" go to work sick, (and I don't), but by your standards no one should ever leave their house..how do you know if you have something before symptoms are showing..This isn't Ebola, or the Plague..My kid and his girlfriend just lost both jobs, not because anyone at the office was sick, but because the gov has said they're non essential. They will lose everything in a few short weeks WHY?? to prevent a miniscule percentage of those that get the virus from dying???? We will be seeing the percentage of homeless follow Al Gore's Global warming curve. You can bet your ass that the percentage of deaths in this part of the population will far outpace the Covid19 virus. But hey..gas prices are down..I guess that makes it all worth it..

Correction, not his standards. The standards set by WHO (the World Health Organization), CDC (Center for Disease Control and Prevention), and most governments.

[emujo2]

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Still, the amount of lives that are ruined here versus the tiny amount of lives we save is comical. Never in my life have I seen this kind of response..I also did not live through the 1918 flu pandemic, but I don't think the 2 are anywhere close in the damage they will do (or did).

[Copier Addict]

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Still, the amount of lives that are ruined here versus the tiny amount of lives we save is comical. Never in my life have I seen this kind of response..I also did not live through the 1918 flu pandemic, but I don't think the 2 are anywhere close in the damage they will do (or did).

So, who are you willing to sacrifice first. Parents? Grand parents? Aunts and uncles?
The Spanish flu had a mortality rate of about 2.5% in a time when healthcare was not near as good as it is now. Covid 19 so far has a mortality rate of about the same and healthcare has improved quite a lot. So it seems Covid 19 using this information seems a little worse than Spanish flu.

[emujo2]

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The US is around 1.5% so yes..I'm willing to sacrifice to keep my family going. How are you going to protect anyone you love when you're living out of a box with the rest of the homeless..pay me now or pay me later..E

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

[Copier Addict]

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The US is around 1.5% so yes..I'm willing to sacrifice to keep my family going. How are you going to protect anyone you love when you're living out of a box with the rest of the homeless..pay me now or pay me later..E

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

If you stop the precautions being implemented the cases will increase much faster, the hospitals will become overrun with sick people and the mortality rate will also increase simply because there won't be any help for them. Initially the economy will improve, but as more and more people become infected that too will stop because there will be nobody to work.
The millionaires who are suggesting this are able to distance themselves from it and let the little people die, they don't care as long as it doesn't affect their bank accounts. This proposal is more proof that people in power don't care whether the work force lives or dies.

[slimslob]

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The US is around 1.5% so yes..I'm willing to sacrifice to keep my family going. How are you going to protect anyone you love when you're living out of a box with the rest of the homeless..pay me now or pay me later..E

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

First learn how to post a link so that it ends up as a link and not just text. Actually I think that you tried, unsuccessfully, to copy it from another thread.

Second if you actually looked at the website you tried to post a link to you would notice the earlier a country started a policy of shelter in place the lower the fatality rate.

Are you willing to sacrifice the lives of your family?

[emujo2]

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Sorry that you had to go to all of the trouble to copy and paste the info. Since you have so little free time I assume you are at work and not at home eating Cheetos, watching porn flicks and trying to find ways to insult someone who doesn't see things the same way you do. When we both are on the street begging for food, I hope I ca find a millionaire to lend me his phone so I can logon to Copytechnet and say "I f'ing told you"...

http://gopoundsand.com

Hope you like the link..I learn't something today..duhhhhhh

[jmaister]

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"Essential Services" means services, by whomsoever rendered, and whether
rendered to the Government or to any other person, the interruption of which
would endanger the life, health or personal safety of the whole or part of
the population;"

I don't think a broken Copier, Printer, or Fax is going to endanger the life of anyone.

Remember: " The severity of the breakdown, is directly proportionate to the Anxiety of the Operator."

Whilst 200% true. You know how some customers are STILL CALLING!! PAPER JAM ZOMG!! I CANT HELP TO PUT TAPE ON MY DOCS!! LIFE IS ENDING, HALP ME!!

stay home ppl.

[tsbservice]

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Jobs are going to be reduced our standard also, we can stand this not loosing our friends and families.
People are people not enemies! Stay safe!

[RandyW]

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I'm hoping they can find some area of agreement between the science people and the political people. I think some areas may be able to carefully open things up. And some areas are going to be very difficult- like NYC area.

Also you would like to think that with the whole world working on this there will be some better ways to fight this thing with drugs.


The Spanish flu killed around 675,000 people according to the CDC website with our population a little more than 100,000,000. Today there's about 330,000,000 people so the same % would be over 2 million.


I'd like to see more nationwide forgiveness of things like mortgage payments, rent, car payments etc...while this thing is going on.

[emujo2]

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At least the copier servcie industry is still open..but my guys are seeing calls for predominately prisons, hospitals, nusrsing homes, etc..I am telling them to require PPE to be provided or put the machine is a safe place..Maybe we get our contact to live with that "dot on the page" for a short time, or actually get up and clear the jam...I have also instructed them to walk out if they feel threatened by someone not following the recommnded distance guidelines. I support my guys 100% during this uncertain time and I want them to be able to keep working though the crisis no matter my own personal feelings on the severity of this thing...E

[tsbservice]

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At least the copier servcie industry is still open..but my guys are seeing calls for predominately prisons, hospitals, nusrsing homes, etc..I am telling them to require PPE to be provided or put the machine is a safe place..Maybe we get our contact to live with that "dot on the page" for a short time, or actually get up and clear the jam...I have also instructed them to walk out if they feel threatened by someone not following the recommnded distance guidelines. I support my guys 100% during this uncertain time and I want them to be able to keep working though the crisis no matter my own personal feelings on the severity of this thing...E

Sounds like you are doing great job with your guys. Years in the field also helps. I cannot get out of the field now, I'm the only one.
Yet another years to come, still would be great to be IN the field. Tough customers - bring them in, weird problems - I'm over them!

[SalesServiceGuy]

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All of the copier vendors that I have listened to in the last few days are saying that service calls are way down (50%+), toner and parts consumption is way down and no one is doing PMs anymore unless they are already on a call out.

Of course, there are now far fewer people in offices printing to their workgroup devices.

If only there was a way for copier dealers to figure out how to put a meter charge on bandwidth, we would all be rich.