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  • fshead
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    anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL "not for drinking"??

    hi
    I am running out of my spray alcohol that i use when i go get gas,food,bank..just bare bones needs.
    Nobody has any alcohol and the old crap booze is not strong enough to disinfect covid 19..
    I bought a lb of yeast and am looking for any ideas on how i can make a small batch for myself and family
    thanks
  • NeoMatrix
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    Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL "not for drinking"??

    Originally posted by fshead
    hi
    I am running out of my spray alcohol that i use when i go get gas,food,bank..just bare bones needs.
    Nobody has any alcohol and the old crap booze is not strong enough to disinfect covid 19..
    I bought a lb of yeast and am looking for any ideas on how i can make a small batch for myself and family
    thanks
    1. 6kg of sugar/molasses into 20 litres of hot water in a sterilized 25litre drum,air lock bubbler in top. (wait one day for the wash to cool).
    2. Add 4 tablespoons of baker's yeast (bread making yeast) into the the above wash, put the airlock water bubbler into the top of the drum. Wait 5 to 10 days, depends on the seasonal temperature.

    3. Distill off alcohol with a hot kettle and plastic hose through ice cubes, or place drum in the freezer and pour off the alcohol the next day. Alcohol boils at 78deg so you'll get alcohol evaporation before you get water boiling.


    Done properly ,you'll get around 3 litres of %85 (170 proof) alcohol.

    You asked for simple...?

    Mix 60% alcohol to 40% white vinegar for hand wash.

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    • zed255
      How'd ya manage that?

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      Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL "not for drinking"??

      Well, you aren't going to get homemade alcohol in any quantity quickly, but it is absolutely possible.

      You need to ferment some sugar wash (and no, it is NOT just sugar water and yeast, at least if you expect it to finish out without specialty products). Even the simplest route with a 'Turbo Yeast', which is yeast and nutrients together, in water with an appropriate amount of table sugar will take a week or so.

      Then you need to run it through a still of some description. For the required proof you need a reflux still to go from fermented wash to useable alcohol in one go (up to 96% is possible), otherwise the simpler pot still will take at least two passes of the wash through to be strong enough (up to about 80%, more like 70% is realistic) to make sanitizer. A pot still could be a kettle with a lid you can lute, or a slightly modified pressure cooker / canner and a copper coil condenser in a bucket of cold water.

      If you want to circumvent the time required to ferment a wash you could pot still (or reflux still) cheap vodka (or old crap booze), it is strong enough to not require two passes through a pot still.

      So, you need to buy or make a still. You need to ferment a wash, or get some cheap available alcohol at a lower strength to work with. You need at least the right hydrometer to verify your proof is high enough, so tools need to be procured. You need to LEARN how to run the still, it isn't hard but has safety concerns. Oh, and without at least a fuel permit concentrating alcohol in a still in the US is illegal, though many do it on the DL. You up for the challenge? If you start now you might have sanitizer in a week or two .
      Last edited by zed255; 04-24-2020, 01:38 AM.

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      • allan
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        #4
        Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL "not for drinking"??

        Originally posted by fshead
        hi
        I am running out of my spray alcohol that i use when i go get gas,food,bank..just bare bones needs.
        Nobody has any alcohol and the old crap booze is not strong enough to disinfect covid 19..
        I bought a lb of yeast and am looking for any ideas on how i can make a small batch for myself and family
        thanks
        Distilling the old crap booze would be the quickest.
        Whatever

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        • NeoMatrix
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          Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL "not for drinking"??

          Originally posted by allan
          Distilling the old crap booze would be the quickest.
          You could try freezing a 90 year old bottle of Malt Scotch... I don't like scotch.....


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          • slimslob
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            Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL &quot;not for drinking&quot;??

            FYI, most high school chemistry labs have a still. If you know someone you might be able to borrow one. I remember a couple of seniors who one year had a jug of hard cider and ran it through the still. Ended up with about 150 proof. Quick question, do you know how to tell when your cider is ready? When you hear the cork hit the cake pan.

            Allen's suggestion is the best if you already have the crap booze.

            CDC recommends at least 60% which is 120 proof. The closest OTC adult beverage that I know is Smirnoff Black Label, 100 proof. In a pinch it will work, you just have to use a little more.

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            • zed255
              How'd ya manage that?

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              Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL &quot;not for drinking&quot;??

              If you can buy Everclear it will be either 95% ABV or in more restrictive states 75% ABV as a ready made alcohol that will suit your purposes. Unless all the idiot hoarders bought it first...

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              • NeoMatrix
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                Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL &quot;not for drinking&quot;??

                In Australia the authorities place sour bitters into Methylated spirits bought from the hardware.
                The bitters discourages alcohol abuse by minority groups in Australia.

                You can distill the bitters out of the Methylated spirits by running it through a still....

                Assuming there is Metho available at the hardware store...
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                • slimslob
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                  Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL &quot;not for drinking&quot;??

                  There is always Amazon. Careful though, denatured alcohol has additives to make it poisonous, bad-tasting, foul-smelling, or nauseating.

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                  • fshead
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                    Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL &quot;not for drinking&quot;??

                    wow a lot to take in...........
                    regarding >>Mix 60% alcohol to 40% white vinegar for hand wash...What does combining these two items do>
                    i thought you needed at least 95% pure alcohol to be safe?
                    I tried to find EVERCLEAR,no one here has it.
                    They should allow all the moon shiners to sell direct to liquor stores to prevent spread.
                    In NY I dont think you are able to but hooch.

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                    • fshead
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                      Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL &quot;not for drinking&quot;??

                      Originally posted by slimslob
                      FYI, most high school chemistry labs have a still. If you know someone you might be able to borrow one. I remember a couple of seniors who one year had a jug of hard cider and ran it through the still. Ended up with about 150 proof. Quick question, do you know how to tell when your cider is ready? When you hear the cork hit the cake pan.

                      Allen's suggestion is the best if you already have the crap booze.

                      CDC recommends at least 60% which is 120 proof. The closest OTC adult beverage that I know is Smirnoff Black Label, 100 proof. In a pinch it will work, you just have to use a little more.
                      IS there a way to make stronger by heating safely?
                      I know alcohol evaporates at a different temp than water..

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                      • zed255
                        How'd ya manage that?

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                        Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL &quot;not for drinking&quot;??

                        Its slightly more complex than just evaporating the alcohol due to the intricacies of physics and a thing called an azeotrope. As already mentioned, the device used to safely concentrate alcohol is called a still. They do not need to be complex but must have at least a couple attributes:

                        A vessel in which to gently boil the liquid that has an outlet that feeds a condenser to return the vapour back into a liquid.

                        There is something called a conical or wok still. It is a pot to put your low alcohol liquid in, a stainless bowl that will float inside to pot without drifting too far off Centre and a larger round bottom bowl or wok that will act as a cover for the pot. You put ice in the large bowl or wok and the concentrated alcohol collects in the smaller one floating inside. Needs to perked in upon periodically to prevent overfilling and sinking the small bowl. Do not try this on a gas range, electric only.

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                        • mikadonovan
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                          #13
                          Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL &quot;not for drinking&quot;??

                          Originally posted by fshead
                          IS there a way to make stronger by heating safely?
                          I know alcohol evaporates at a different temp than water..
                          Sounds like a KABOOM/FIRE just waiting to happen.
                          NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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                          • fshead
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                            Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL &quot;not for drinking&quot;??

                            Originally posted by mikadonovan
                            Sounds like a KABOOM/FIRE just waiting to happen.

                            That is my big concern,blowing up the home base..........
                            Well i did find some some brugal 151 from the dominican republic i bought years back.So will 75% alcohol work safely?

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                            • spanky
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                              Re: anyone here know how to make FAST ALCOHOL &quot;not for drinking&quot;??

                              I was in my local Lowes hardware store yesterday and they had plenty of the alcohol used for stoves.

                              It is potent enough to use as a cleaner and sanitizer.

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