Will you send your son,daughter, niece, nephew back to school in Seot ?

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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    Will you send your son,daughter, niece, nephew back to school in Seot ?

    Do you feel it is safe for your family members to go back to public/ private school in Sept?

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  • Bix
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    Re: Will you send your son,daughter, niece, nephew back to school in Seot ?

    its are already open here. There are strict restrictions but we try to live with the virus.

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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      Re: Will you send your son,daughter, niece, nephew back to school in Seot ?

      Where I live, public and private schools are scheduled to re-open in Sept. Post secondary schools will not offer in person classes until 2021.

      COVID-19 infection rates are very low in this area.

      Students will definitely be well spread out through out the building including the gym and mobile trailers outside.

      How parents feel about packing their children in school buses is unknown.

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      • FrohnB
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        Re: Will you send your son,daughter, niece, nephew back to school in Seot ?

        Our 10 and 5 year olds will be going back "in-person".
        Our school district has given parents the options of: In-person learning, Remote-learning (though the kids won't have their actual teachers for that - it will be teachers aids doing the tele-learning curriculum), and home schooling (parents responsible for teaching).
        When put up to a vote among parents, the majority voted for in-person learning, but there was also a percentage that voted against it, hence the other options.
        3 Smaller school districts around our town decided to continue in-person learning through the covid pandemic to end the school year this year, and even held graduations at their respective football fields. There was never a report of a "spreading event" in those school districts where students and teachers continued to attend despite closures elsewhere. Covid cases are VERY low in my region, and the majority of people feel safe with reopening everything including schools (Teachers Included).
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        • slimslob
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          At 72, all my children, nieces and nephews are adults. My youngest granddaughter graduated high school 2 months ago.

          The Board of Regents for the UC and CSU campuses has dictated that all campuses will remain closed for the fall semester. If professors, lecturers or administrative assistants need to access anything that is in their office on campus they need to get permission from their department chair, the dean of instruction, the campus provost and the campus president. There are a few courses of instruction that will be allowed to conduct labs on campus where it would impossible or unsafe for students to do the experiments at home. The nursing school will be allowed to use the mannequins in their instruction facility.

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          • SalesServiceGuy
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            Re: Will you send your son,daughter, niece, nephew back to school in Seot ?

            A picture of a US high school students going to class from yesterday.

            The Georgia student was suspended for posting the picture to social media.

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            • mikadonovan
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              A couple of schools in the area opened on Aug 3rd, and looks like they were closed again today. The virus invaded the student and faculty almost immediately. I don't see how we can get ahead of this thing with in- person instruction. I was at a school system I service Friday to inspect machines before reopening, and there is no way it is going to work (in my opinion) for very long, because kids are just gonna be kids, and schools are ALWAYS a good place to pick up a cold or the flu. With the extremely high infection rate of covid, I give the system maybe a couple of weeks and then the infections will surface. I will be masked and gloved for any service calls, and I WILL request the area around the machine to be clear of faculty and students before I start work on the equipment. The school is in a county with ever-increasing numbers of infected, and right next to the county with the highest recorded infections in the state. Any of you also working the trenches be smart and safe.... Sick and dead techs don't do anyone any good.
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              • SalesServiceGuy
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                We use to service numerous schools with oversized 500 lb copiers but lost them all to Xerox, Ricoh or Konica Minolta with cpc pricing so low we just did not want to go there. A lot of these schools were distant and the travel made the whole RFP bid price just totally uneconomic.

                Most of these RFPs were cpc machine included with no guaranteed minimums. If the schools are not making clicks like they had historically in the past, you would work hard but still lose a lot of money.

                In light of COVID-19, we now see losing these high revenue but no profit accounts as a blessing in disguise. We focus entirely on the SMB market where copiers are mostly sold one at a time.

                Lexmark won a big local RFP and placed many copiers in schools in this area. They subcontracted out to a few local dealers to perform the service. I think everybody there is losing a lot of money and a lot of techs are stressed out not getting home till late at night every day because of long drives. We hired one such tech. His wife told him quit the job and work somewhere else or I am leaving you and taking the kids. Another tech is hinting to us he wants to leave to come work for us.

                A lot of these copiers are under spec for the crazy high print volumes they are expected to do and start to experience a lot of problems a little after one year onsite. Therefore, there are a lot of service calls.

                Schools almost always buy exclusively on price because they are desperate to find funds to continue their educational programs.
                Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 08-10-2020, 07:28 PM.

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                • tsbservice
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                  Re: Will you send your son,daughter, niece, nephew back to school in Seot ?

                  Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                  We use to service numerous schools with oversized 500 lb copiers but lost them all to Xerox, Ricoh or Konica Minolta with cpc pricing so low we just did not want to go there. A lot of these schools were distant and the travel made the whole RFP bid price just totally uneconomic.

                  Most of these RFPs were cpc machine included with no guaranteed minimums. If the schools are not making clicks like they had historically in the past, you would work hard but still lose a lot of money.

                  In light of COVID-19, we now see losing these high revenue but no profit accounts as a blessing in disguise. We focus entirely on the SMB market where copiers are mostly sold one at a time.

                  Lexmark won a big local RFP and placed many copiers in schools in this area. They subcontracted out to a few local dealers to perform the service. I think everybody there is losing a lot of money and a lot of techs are stressed out not getting home till late at night every day because of long drives. We hired one such tech. His wife told him quit the job and work somewhere else or I am leaving you and taking the kids. Another tech is hinting to us he wants to leave to come work for us.

                  A lot of these copiers are under spec for the crazy high print volumes they are expected to do and start to experience a lot of problems a little after one year onsite. Therefore, there are a lot of service calls.

                  Schools almost always buy exclusively on price because they are desperate to find funds to continue their educational programs.
                  What's the point of this post regarding your own thread instead of boosting your own Ego?
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                  • KenB
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                    Re: Will you send your son,daughter, niece, nephew back to school in Seot ?

                    Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                    A picture of a US high school students going to class from yesterday.

                    The Georgia student was suspended for posting the picture to social media.

                    That suspension was quickly reversed.

                    Now there are COVID positive students and teachers in the school, although the number is fairly low (at least for now).
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                    • slimslob
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                      Re: Will you send your son,daughter, niece, nephew back to school in Seot ?

                      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                      Schools almost always buy exclusively on price because they are desperate to find funds to continue their educational programs.
                      Maybe in Canada but here they tend to purchase from dealers they know will provide the service and support they require.

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                      • SalesServiceGuy
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                        Confirmed Coronavirus Cases in U.S. Children Rose By 90% in About Four Weeks This Summer, Bringing the Total to Over 380,000

                        As decision-makers weigh whether to reopen U.S. schools this fall, they face a daunting reality: COVID-19 appears to have surged among American kids this summer.

                        On July 9, there were approximately 200,000 confirmed cases in children; by Aug. 6, that number rose by nearly 180,000, an approximately 90% increase in just over four weeks, according to a new report.

                        That translates to an increase from 319 per 100,000 American children to 501 cases per 100,000, in just four week.


                        At Least 380,000 U.S. Children Have Tested Positive for COVID-19 | Time


                        While the effect of CoronaVirus on children is not yet well understood, their parents, friends and grandparents all become at risk.

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                        • FrohnB
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                          Re: Will you send your son,daughter, niece, nephew back to school in Seot ?

                          Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                          Confirmed Coronavirus Cases in U.S. Children Rose By 90% in About Four Weeks This Summer, Bringing the Total to Over 380,000

                          As decision-makers weigh whether to reopen U.S. schools this fall, they face a daunting reality: COVID-19 appears to have surged among American kids this summer.

                          On July 9, there were approximately 200,000 confirmed cases in children; by Aug. 6, that number rose by nearly 180,000, an approximately 90% increase in just over four weeks, according to a new report.

                          That translates to an increase from 319 per 100,000 American children to 501 cases per 100,000, in just four week.


                          At Least 380,000 U.S. Children Have Tested Positive for COVID-19 | Time


                          While the effect of CoronaVirus on children is not yet well understood, their parents, friends and grandparents all become at risk.

                          Pretty convenient for the "No School" narrative.
                          I'm not saying that these kids aren't infected, but the timing of the release of this info is just a little curious.
                          The CDC and WHO both came out less than two weeks ago and said they saw no problem with sending kids back to school because children under 18 made up about .1 out of 100,000 (or 1 out of a million) deaths, and for most, the symptoms were mild to non-existent.
                          They made that statement on a Friday (7/31/20), then 3 days later (the following Monday), ALL the liberal media outlets suddenly "received reports" from "experts" and "health directors" that kids were being infected by the thousands and tens of thousands, with some reporting on Hundreds of thousands.
                          Were Kids "immune" all the way up until "4 weeks ago"? Why didn't they report that there was suddenly a surge 4 weeks ago? Why did they wait One Month (and one week before school starts) to suddenly "share this information"?
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                          • Phil B.
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                            Re: Will you send your son,daughter, niece, nephew back to school in Seot ?

                            Originally posted by FrohnB
                            Pretty convenient for the "No School" narrative.
                            I'm not saying that these kids aren't infected, but the timing of the release of this info is just a little curious.
                            The CDC and WHO both came out less than two weeks ago and said they saw no problem with sending kids back to school because children under 18 made up about .1 out of 100,000 (or 1 out of a million) deaths, and for most, the symptoms were mild to non-existent.
                            They made that statement on a Friday (7/31/20), then 3 days later (the following Monday), ALL the liberal media outlets suddenly "received reports" from "experts" and "health directors" that kids were being infected by the thousands and tens of thousands, with some reporting on Hundreds of thousands.
                            Were Kids "immune" all the way up until "4 weeks ago"? Why didn't they report that there was suddenly a surge 4 weeks ago? Why did they wait One Month (and one week before school starts) to suddenly "share this information"?
                            could this be another reason WHY they don't want to re-open the schools?


                            WALSH: Teachers Openly Fret That Parents Might Hear Them Brainwashing Children, Call Parents ‘Dangerous’ | The Daily Wire

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                            • bsm2
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                              Re: Will you send your son,daughter, niece, nephew back to school in Seot ?

                              Originally posted by Phil B.
                              could this be another reason WHY they don't want to re-open the schools?

                              WALSH: Teachers Openly Fret That Parents Might Hear Them Brainwashing Children, Call Parents ‘Dangerous’


                              WALSH: Teachers Openly Fret That Parents Might Hear Them Brainwashing Children, Call Parents ‘Dangerous’ | The Daily Wire
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                              Here, in contemporary American society, there are generally two ways of looking at it: children belong to their parents, or they belong to the school system (which is to say, the government). In one vision, a child is a son or daughter, in the other, the child is a ward of the state.

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