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  • slimslob
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    #2671
    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

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    • bsm2
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      #2672
      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

      Originally posted by slimslob
      Hay Buddy were Not Mexico
      case closed
      No voter fraud Just the Big Fat Republican Lie
      because YOU LOST

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      • Phil B.
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        #2673
        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

        Originally posted by copier addict
        I'm aware of all that. Where does it state that God actually took time out of his /her day to grant people the right to bear arms?
        Phil says it is a "God given right to bear arms". I believe it was granted by people, not God.
        It's because we are a Christian nation.
        You brought up the Bible I didn't jackass.

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        • bsm2
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          #2674
          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

          Warren says she will run for reelection in 2024 - POLITICO

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          • Phil B.
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            #2675
            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

            Originally posted by bsm2
            Hay Buddy were Not Mexico
            case closed
            No voter fraud Just the Big Fat Republican Lie
            because YOU LOST
            You really need to do research other than MSM because the STOPPED fact checking Biden due to his constant gaffes and they don't want to make their 'Hero' look bad.
            Imagine if they stayed up his ass like they did for #45.
            He is still living in their heads rent free, just like he's still living in yours.
            Why do you think Biden sent his DOJ to try and stop the audit in AZ because what will be uncovered in the audit.
            Dems are running scared.
            NanNan's lead is dwindling in the House.
            Seats are tied in the Senate, and the Ho isn't doing the jobs that have been assigned to her.

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            • Phil B.
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              #2676
              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

              Fauxahauntus?
              That bitch is way past her prime.

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              • bsm2
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                #2677
                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                Still CAN'T spell names


                Would you like a tissue

                Jealous of the Bidwn Harris Boom
                It's ok you can cry

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                • bsm2
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                  #2678
                  Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                  Joe Biden Wants to Take a Page Out of Henry Ford and Jeff Bezos' Playbook

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    #2679
                    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                    Originally posted by Phil B.
                    . the 2A rights that are God given
                    Originally posted by Phil B.
                    It's because we are a Christian nation.
                    You brought up the Bible I didn't jackass.

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                    Are you denying that you posted the above statement?
                    All I'm asking is show us where God actually granted these rights. I don't want the line in your constitution that claims God granted the right.
                    If you can't, just admit it and move on.

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      #2680
                      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                      Constitutional rights are not government-given
                      by Randy Moll | July 3, 2019 at 5:00 a.m.



                      People often speak of their Constitutional rights but sometimes make the mistake of assuming that the rights protected by the Bill of Rights -- such as the freedom of religion; freedom of speech and of the press; the right "to keep and bear arms"; the right "to be secure" in our "persons, houses, papers and effects" -- are given to us by our government. But a careful reading of the Constitution, as well as the Declaration of Independence, makes clear that these rights, as well as others not enumerated, are given to us by our Creator and the Bill of Rights was adopted to preserve those God-given rights from the encroachment of government.


                      For example, the First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." The amendment does not give to us the right to believe and worship as we see fit, to speak freely our thoughts and opinions even if they are contrary to government policy, to publish news and information freely and without fear of government reprisal, to assemble peaceably or to petition the government. It assumes these rights are already ours and prohibits the government from doing anything to infringe upon those rights.


                      The Declaration of Independence couldn't be more clear on the source of our rights and the action to be taken when governments infringe upon them: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. -- That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed -- That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."


                      Notice who gives us our rights: God, our Creator. They are "unalienable." Governments cannot and should not try to take them away. What is the purpose of government? To protect these rights, among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What right do the people have when a form of government becomes destructive of its God-given duty to protect God-given rights? To alter or abolish it and form a new government to effect our safety and happiness.


                      Note also that the "right of the people to keep and bear arms" is not government given. It is God-given, and government is prohibited from infringing upon this right. People have the right, from their Creator, to possess and use weapons to defend themselves against those who would unjustly take from them their lives, their property or their freedoms. And that includes governments which abuse their powers and take from the people their lives, their property or their freedoms.


                      The "right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures" is not granted us by the Constitution; it is protected by the Constitution and "shall not be violated." It is because God has given to us these rights, that government infringement is limited to the use of sworn probable-cause warrants, and government may only search in the specific place and only for the specific person or things to be seized.


                      And, are the rights listed in the Bill of Rights our only God-given rights? Not at all! These are specifically listed because they are rights upon which governments have often infringed throughout history and rights of the colonists upon which the British had frequently infringed.


                      My reason for pointing out this distinction? Yes, we all have Constitutional rights; but they are not granted to us by the Constitution; they are guaranteed to us and protected by the Constitution.


                      The Bill of Rights was not adopted to give us certain rights. It was adopted as a protection to limit government and to keep our government from infringing upon our God-given rights.


                      Had the government given us our rights, government could -- by legislation, executive order, judicial decision or Constitution amendment -- take them away. But since our rights are God-given and unalienable, government has no authority to take them away or infringe upon them. And when governments do, the people have a right to alter and abolish such governments and institute a new form of government which will protect and defend the God-given rights of the people.
                      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                      • Phil B.
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                        #2681
                        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        Constitutional rights are not government-given
                        by Randy Moll | July 3, 2019 at 5:00 a.m.



                        People often speak of their Constitutional rights but sometimes make the mistake of assuming that the rights protected by the Bill of Rights -- such as the freedom of religion; freedom of speech and of the press; the right "to keep and bear arms"; the right "to be secure" in our "persons, houses, papers and effects" -- are given to us by our government. But a careful reading of the Constitution, as well as the Declaration of Independence, makes clear that these rights, as well as others not enumerated, are given to us by our Creator and the Bill of Rights was adopted to preserve those God-given rights from the encroachment of government.


                        For example, the First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." The amendment does not give to us the right to believe and worship as we see fit, to speak freely our thoughts and opinions even if they are contrary to government policy, to publish news and information freely and without fear of government reprisal, to assemble peaceably or to petition the government. It assumes these rights are already ours and prohibits the government from doing anything to infringe upon those rights.


                        The Declaration of Independence couldn't be more clear on the source of our rights and the action to be taken when governments infringe upon them: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. -- That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed -- That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."


                        Notice who gives us our rights: God, our Creator. They are "unalienable." Governments cannot and should not try to take them away. What is the purpose of government? To protect these rights, among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What right do the people have when a form of government becomes destructive of its God-given duty to protect God-given rights? To alter or abolish it and form a new government to effect our safety and happiness.


                        Note also that the "right of the people to keep and bear arms" is not government given. It is God-given, and government is prohibited from infringing upon this right. People have the right, from their Creator, to possess and use weapons to defend themselves against those who would unjustly take from them their lives, their property or their freedoms. And that includes governments which abuse their powers and take from the people their lives, their property or their freedoms.


                        The "right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures" is not granted us by the Constitution; it is protected by the Constitution and "shall not be violated." It is because God has given to us these rights, that government infringement is limited to the use of sworn probable-cause warrants, and government may only search in the specific place and only for the specific person or things to be seized.


                        And, are the rights listed in the Bill of Rights our only God-given rights? Not at all! These are specifically listed because they are rights upon which governments have often infringed throughout history and rights of the colonists upon which the British had frequently infringed.


                        My reason for pointing out this distinction? Yes, we all have Constitutional rights; but they are not granted to us by the Constitution; they are guaranteed to us and protected by the Constitution.


                        The Bill of Rights was not adopted to give us certain rights. It was adopted as a protection to limit government and to keep our government from infringing upon our God-given rights.


                        Had the government given us our rights, government could -- by legislation, executive order, judicial decision or Constitution amendment -- take them away. But since our rights are God-given and unalienable, government has no authority to take them away or infringe upon them. And when governments do, the people have a right to alter and abolish such governments and institute a new form of government which will protect and defend the God-given rights of the people.
                        "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."


                        but damned if the left isn't following the Constitution.. they constantly bash our rights to free speech.

                        they make laws that apply to us but not to themselves. they violate laws then revoke those laws when it pertains to them.

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                        • slimslob
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                          #2682
                          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                          Does Biden have a caliber .22 finger?

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                          • slimslob
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                            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

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                            • bsm2
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                              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

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                              • bsm2
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                                #2685
                                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                                Constitutional rights are not government-given
                                by Randy Moll | July 3, 2019 at 5:00 a.m.



                                People often speak of their Constitutional rights but sometimes make the mistake of assuming that the rights protected by the Bill of Rights -- such as the freedom of religion; freedom of speech and of the press; the right "to keep and bear arms"; the right "to be secure" in our "persons, houses, papers and effects" -- are given to us by our government. But a careful reading of the Constitution, as well as the Declaration of Independence, makes clear that these rights, as well as others not enumerated, are given to us by our Creator and the Bill of Rights was adopted to preserve those God-given rights from the encroachment of government.


                                For example, the First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." The amendment does not give to us the right to believe and worship as we see fit, to speak freely our thoughts and opinions even if they are contrary to government policy, to publish news and information freely and without fear of government reprisal, to assemble peaceably or to petition the government. It assumes these rights are already ours and prohibits the government from doing anything to infringe upon those rights.


                                The Declaration of Independence couldn't be more clear on the source of our rights and the action to be taken when governments infringe upon them: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. -- That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed -- That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."


                                Notice who gives us our rights: God, our Creator. They are "unalienable." Governments cannot and should not try to take them away. What is the purpose of government? To protect these rights, among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What right do the people have when a form of government becomes destructive of its God-given duty to protect God-given rights? To alter or abolish it and form a new government to effect our safety and happiness.


                                Note also that the "right of the people to keep and bear arms" is not government given. It is God-given, and government is prohibited from infringing upon this right. People have the right, from their Creator, to possess and use weapons to defend themselves against those who would unjustly take from them their lives, their property or their freedoms. And that includes governments which abuse their powers and take from the people their lives, their property or their freedoms.


                                The "right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures" is not granted us by the Constitution; it is protected by the Constitution and "shall not be violated." It is because God has given to us these rights, that government infringement is limited to the use of sworn probable-cause warrants, and government may only search in the specific place and only for the specific person or things to be seized.


                                And, are the rights listed in the Bill of Rights our only God-given rights? Not at all! These are specifically listed because they are rights upon which governments have often infringed throughout history and rights of the colonists upon which the British had frequently infringed.


                                My reason for pointing out this distinction? Yes, we all have Constitutional rights; but they are not granted to us by the Constitution; they are guaranteed to us and protected by the Constitution.


                                The Bill of Rights was not adopted to give us certain rights. It was adopted as a protection to limit government and to keep our government from infringing upon our God-given rights.


                                Had the government given us our rights, government could -- by legislation, executive order, judicial decision or Constitution amendment -- take them away. But since our rights are God-given and unalienable, government has no authority to take them away or infringe upon them. And when governments do, the people have a right to alter and abolish such governments and institute a new form of government which will protect and defend the God-given rights of the people.
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