The Shining City Upon a Hill

[progoffice]

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... therefore, they should pay more taxes to help fund important things like free community college tuition to help raise low income people out of poverty and into the middle class.

Closing this tax loophole on assets when people die has existed for over 90 years and is wildly abused by the super rich.

Your response is let the rich and their children to continue to keep getting richer by hiding the transfer of wealth from one generation to another.

Very few people get super rich but 10,000s would benefit from free community college. So many families would benefit from free daycare.

Even yourself would benefit from a tax cut unless you enjoy subsidizing the super rich which you are very unlikely to ever become.

The word "free" is a very scary word. It basically translates to paid for by someone else. When you are that someone else "free" is not "free" anymore.

[BillyCarpenter]

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The word "free" is a very scary word. It basically translates to paid for by someone else. When you are that someone else "free" is not "free" anymore.

You took the words out of my mouth. It's obvious that SSG has lived off the government dime for most of his adult life. From what I gather, he has no interest in becoming successful and/or rich.

[Copier Addict]

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You took the words out of my mouth. It's obvious that SSG has lived off the government dime for most of his adult life. From what I gather, he has no interest in becoming successful and/or rich.

Since you made this idiotic statement, please back it up with an explanation.
Exactly how is it obvious he has lived off the "government dime"?

[BillyCarpenter]

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Since you made this idiotic statement, please back it up with an explanation.
Exactly how is it obvious he has lived off the "government dime"?

I'm shocked that a Canadian is upset of being accused of living off the government dime. Y'all usually wear it as a badge of honor. You like that "free" shit, right?

[Copier Addict]

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I'm shocked that a Canadian is upset of being accused of living off the government dime. Y'all usually wear it as a badge of honor. You like that "free" shit, right?

Haha. Is that another conclusion you have jumped to? What a shock!!
Now, without the usual deflection, please explain how you concluded that SalesServiceGuy has "lived off the government dime for most of his adult life" .
You made the statement, let's all hear your reasoning for it.
Personally I can't wait to marvel in your brilliant deduction power.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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The word "free" is a very scary word. It basically translates to paid for by someone else. When you are that someone else "free" is not "free" anymore.

... of course, it is paid for by someone else.

Namely. the super rich and corporations that are "tax dodgers" plus an increase in the corporate tax rate from a historically, super low 21% to a 25-28% rate.

These proposals are extremely popular amongst middle class voters.

The average family earning under $400k per year will see no increase in Federal income taxes.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Haha. Is that another conclusion you have jumped to? What a shock!!
Now, without the usual deflection, please explain how you concluded that SalesServiceGuy has "lived off the government dime for most of his adult life" .
You made the statement, let's all hear your reasoning for it.
Personally I can't wait to marvel in your brilliant deduction power.

You and he are Canadian. You like free healthcare. You like free government cheese. In other news, water is wet.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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You and he are Canadian. You like free healthcare. You like free government cheese. In other news, water is wet.

... in other words, you made an assumption that makes you look like an ass.

I have worked everyday since I was 14 and have never rec'd gov't assistance.

Healthcare is not free in Canada. We pay for it via higher taxes on everyday purchases and personal income tax.

[Copier Addict]

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You and he are Canadian. You like free healthcare. You like free government cheese. In other news, water is wet.

Damn! You are such a disappointment. I was waiting for your grand explanation and all I got was your usual right wing talking points. Are there ANY original thoughts in your head at all? Or, more likely, you simply repeat everything you are told to.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Healthcare is not free in Canada. We pay for it via higher taxes on everyday purchases and personal income tax.

I thought the "rich" people were supposed to pay for most of the cost for you mere peasants. No?

[progoffice]

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... of course, it is paid for by someone else.

Namely. the super rich and corporations that are "tax dodgers" plus an increase in the corporate tax rate from a historically, super low 21% to a 25-28% rate.

These proposals are extremely popular amongst middle class voters.

The average family earning under $400k per year will see no increase in Federal income taxes.

Then why call it "free"? Call it "tax payer funded" or something like that - but I guess that doesn't sell like "free" does? Usually when something is "free", you either get what you pay for or there are strings attached.

[slimslob]

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Since you made this idiotic statement, please back it up with an explanation.
Exactly how is it obvious he has lived off the "government dime"?

We do not have access directly to to SSG's business records but I have a feeling that large portion of his income comes from Canadian government contracts without which he would be out on the streets as a beggar. Is the same true for you?

[slimslob]

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I thought the "rich" people were supposed to pay for most of the cost for you mere peasants. No?

Maybe SSG is part of the "rich people".

[Copier Addict]

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Then why call it "free"? Call it "tax payer funded" or something like that - but I guess that doesn't sell like "free" does? Usually when something is "free", you either get what you pay for or there are strings attached.

It is only people who are uninformed who call it free. Nobody with any intelligence would say that.
It is well documented that a single payer healthcare system costs the individual less than an insurance based healthcare system.

[BillyCarpenter]

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It is only people who are uninformed who call it free. Nobody with any intelligence would say that.
It is well documented that a single payer healthcare system costs the individual less than an insurance based healthcare system.

Allow me to explain to youu how your healthcare system works. It is free for many. I'm talking about those that don't work or don't make enough money. It's all free to them. The reason it's free for them is because those who actually work are paying for it. And the more you earn, the more free-loaders that you're paying for.

Are you really that big of an idiot to not understand this? Nevermind....