The Shining City Upon a Hill

[BillyCarpenter]

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Everyone please note the complete lack of support for the oppressed in Cuba by the 2 Canadians. I guess their skin isn't dark enough or they're not BLM and backed by democrats.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Look, it's fucking odd that you'd talk about how beautiful Cuba is when the citizens are being cracked over the head and beaten like animals.

It's like talking about how great Germany's country side is when Hitler was gassing the Jews.

You really need to rethink yourself. It's not a good look. In fact, it makes you look like a commie sympathizer.

... with or without you, Canada will still continue it's annual $1B+ trade relationship with Cuba while sending fully vaccinated tourists to enjoy Cuban culture.

[BillyCarpenter]

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... with or without you, Canada will still continue it's annual $1B+ trade relationship with Cuba while sending fully vaccinated tourists to enjoy Cuban culture.

The more I learn about you..... my, my my.

At least pretend to care about the truly oppressed.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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The more I learn about you..... my, my my.

At least pretend to care about the truly oppressed.

Canada funds international development programs to strengthen Cuba's agricultural sector, and improve food security in the country.

This opens meaningful dialogue with Cuban politicians about many social economic problems.

[Copier Addict]

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Everyone please note the complete lack of support for the oppressed in Cuba by the 2 Canadians. I guess their skin isn't dark enough or they're not BLM and backed by democrats.

And when do you leave for Cuba to offer assistance?

[BillyCarpenter]

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Canada funds international development programs to strengthen Cuba's agricultural sector, and improve food security in the country.

This opens meaningful dialogue with Cuban politicians about many social economic problems.

Sure, buddy. In case you haven't noticed, Cubans are being beaten in the streets. Some killed for for speaking out.

Here's a fucking idea: Call out the blood thirsty dictator that is responsible. Look deep inside yourself and try to find your morals. That is, if have any.

[BillyCarpenter]

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And when do you leave for Cuba to offer assistance?

I call on Joe Biden to offer military assistance.

[BillyCarpenter]

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I'm done trying to get the Canadians to call out the blood thirsty dictator of Cuba. It's just not in them.

[Copier Addict]

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Sure, buddy. In case you haven't noticed, Cubans are being beaten in the streets. Some killed for for speaking out.

Here's a fucking idea: Call out the blood thirsty dictator that is responsible. Look deep inside yourself and try to find your morals. That is, if have any.

You sure seem worried about protesters in a foreign country. Where was this concern when US authorities were beating protesters in cities not too long ago?

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Sure, buddy. In case you haven't noticed, Cubans are being beaten in the streets. Some killed for for speaking out.

Here's a fucking idea: Call out the blood thirsty dictator that is responsible. Look deep inside yourself and try to find your morals. That is, if have any.

... it is obvious that the American approach (might is right) to dealing with Cuba has failed since the 1950s.

Canada's approach is that if you do not talk or trade with Cuba, nothing different is going to change.

[Copier Addict]

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I'm done trying to get the Canadians to call out the blood thirsty dictator of Cuba. It's just not in them.

In Billyspeak, this means his "argument" has completely fallen apart and he is going to move on to the next provocative, idiotic statement.

[BillyCarpenter]

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You sure seem worried about protesters in a foreign country. Where was this concern when US authorities were beating protesters in cities not too long ago?

I didn't see that. What I did see were hundreds, if not thousands, of black protesters killing, looting, robbing and just acting like a bunch of fools and I was right here pointing it out in real time. And you completely ignored it.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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I'm done trying to get the Canadians to call out the blood thirsty dictator of Cuba. It's just not in them.

But in a televised address Wednesday night he also called on Cubans to not act with hate — a reference to the violence that occurred at some of the rare street demonstrations in which protesters voiced grievances over high prices, food shortages and power outages, while some people also called for a change in the government.

Until now, the Cuban government had only blamed social media and the U.S. government for the weekend protests, which were the biggest seen in Cuba since a quarter century ago, when then-President Fidel Castro personally went into the streets to calm crowds of thousands furious over dire shortages following the collapse of the Soviet Union and its economic subsidies for the island.


"We have to gain experience from the disturbances," he said. "We also have to carry out a critical analysis of our problems in order to act and overcome, and avoid their repetition."

In the protests, many Cubans expressed anger over long lines and shortages of food and medicines, as well as repeated electricity outages. Some demanded a faster pace of vaccination against the coronavirus. But there were also calls for political change in a country governed by the Communist Party for some six decades.

Police moved in and arrested dozens of protesters, sometimes violently, and the government has accused protesters of looting and vandalizing shops. Smaller protests continued Monday and officials reported at least one death. No incidents were reported Wednesday.


Authorities did not report the number of people arrested, Col. Moraima Bravet of the Interior Ministry said Wednesday only that they are mostly between the ages of 25 and 37 and will be prosecuted such crimes as public disorder, assault, contempt, robbery or damage.

Cuba is suffering its worst crisis in years from a combination of the coronavirus pandemic that has paralyzed its economy, including the vital tourism industry, inefficiencies in the state-run economy and the tightening of U.S. sanctions on the island. The administration of President Donald Trump imposed more than 200 measures against the island in four years.

those who do not really want the Cuban revolution to develop or a civilized relationship with respect with the United States."

Shortly before the president's remarks, Prime Minister Manuel Marrero announced some measures such as customs flexibility for Cuban citizens who go on foreign trips to bring home toiletries, food and medicines, which are among the most hard to find items in Cuba.

Marrero also said that work is being done to improve the stability of the national electricity system and that officials will seek to improve the supply of medicines, many of which are produced on the island but whose inputs must be imported.

Meanwhile, Economy Minister Alejandro Gil announced the directors of state-owned enterprises will be allowed to determine salaries beyond the regulations. He also said that in the coming weeks long-promised rules will be instituted for small- and medium-size enterprises to be formed, a step once unthinkable under the communist government.

[BillyCarpenter]

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... it is obvious that the American approach (might is right) to dealing with Cuba has failed since the 1950s.

Canada's approach is that if you do not talk or trade with Cuba, nothing different is going to change.

Considering that Canada has never done anything substantial on the world stage, I'd tell you let someone else handle it. This is above Canada's paygrade. It's better that Canada only speak when spoken to. You understand. You're a tiny country in terms of ability to make a difference.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Until now, the Cuban government had only blamed social media and the U.S. government for the weekend protests, which were the biggest seen in Cuba since a quarter century ago, when then-President Fidel Castro personally went into the streets to calm crowds of thousands furious over dire shortages following the collapse of the Soviet Union and its economic subsidies for the island.


"We have to gain experience from the disturbances," he said. "We also have to carry out a critical analysis of our problems in order to act and overcome, and avoid their repetition."

In the protests, many Cubans expressed anger over long lines and shortages of food and medicines, as well as repeated electricity outages. Some demanded a faster pace of vaccination against the coronavirus. But there were also calls for political change in a country governed by the Communist Party for some six decades.
Police moved in and arrested dozens of protesters, sometimes violently, and the government has accused protesters of looting and vandalizing shops. Smaller protests continued Monday and officials reported at least one death. No incidents were reported Wednesday.

Authorities did not report the number of people arrested, Col. Moraima Bravet of the Interior Ministry said Wednesday only that they are mostly between the ages of 25 and 37 and will be prosecuted such crimes as public disorder, assault, contempt, robbery or damage.
Cuba is suffering its worst crisis in years from a combination of the coronavirus pandemic that has paralyzed its economy, including the vital tourism industry, inefficiencies in the state-run economy and the tightening of U.S. sanctions on the island. The administration of President Donald Trump imposed more than 200 measures against the island in four years.

Shortly before the president's remarks, Prime Minister Manuel Marrero announced some measures such as customs flexibility for Cuban citizens who go on foreign trips to bring home toiletries, food and medicines, which are among the most hard to find items in Cuba.
Marrero also said that work is being done to improve the stability of the national electricity system and that officials will seek to improve the supply of medicines, many of which are produced on the island but whose inputs must be imported.
Meanwhile, Economy Minister Alejandro Gil announced the directors of state-owned enterprises will be allowed to determine salaries beyond the regulations. He also said that in the coming weeks long-promised rules will be instituted for small- and medium-size enterprises to be formed, a step once unthinkable under the communist government.

Yeah, I've already read that. At the same time this statement was released, government thugs were clubbing folks over the head like a baby seal.