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  • Phil B.
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    #7201
    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

    Originally posted by Phil B.

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    This should be good.

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    • Copier Addict
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      #7202
      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
      It is with a heavy heart that I announce that communism has come to the Whitehouse.

      So the government is going to control the means of production? What does this have to do with school boards?

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      • Phil B.
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        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

        She has lost her damn mind. Grocery stores AREN'T causing inflation to rise, it's the stupid policies that this incompetent admin has imposed.
        The biggest fuck up is the demolition of the energy independent state we had before Biden.

        Elizabeth Warren Launches Another Fact-Free Attack On Grocery Stores - Political Daily

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

          Originally posted by copier addict
          So the government is going to control the means of production? What does this have to do with school boards?


          You're what I call a "Google Warrior". You think you can google the definition of a word and that's the end-call be-all. I think you're obviously a poorly educated man. I have nothing against the poorly educated. Most are hard working, good folk. But it's frustrating trying to make you understand the difference between a theory and real world.


          Let's start your education by reading this:



          Communism: Theory vs. Practice

          Visiting scholar Professor Norman Davies is giving a series of talks this term. The first was an account of the theory vs practice of communism in the Soviet Union.

          In 1991 a political and military system that had ruled over half of Europe for decades began to come to a dramatic end. The end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union was the beginning of a process of forgetting; it doesn’t take long for a new generation to come along for whom something once so immediately, vitally important is now history.

          Professor Norman Davies is a visiting scholar at Pembroke and a distinguished Professor of history with particular expertise in the history of Eastern Europe and Poland. When it comes to the reality of communism, he says, it is wrong to forget. It is time to remember.



          If the theory of communism was that it would be a classless, harmonious, democratic system, the reality, it seems, was very different. Professor Davies described a system characterised by fear, random killings, and a rigidly controlled political system that left no room for true autonomy at an individual or state level. At all levels of society, party representatives controlled decision-making and the structures of governance, including a constitution which in every state enshrined the right of the communist party to break all other laws.

          Half of Europe was once ruled by Soviet communism, and the impact of such comprehensive control did not end when the Berlin wall came down. To illustrate that Soviet communism did not do, as he put it, what it said on the tin, Professor Davies described three experiences he had visiting parts of the Soviet Union.

          Visiting the Soviet Union with a student group in 1963, he saw a replica of the Red Army command post once occupied by Nikita Khrushchev. The two bunks, one for the party member and one for the Red Army commander, represented the reality of the army’s command structure; nothing happened without approval from the party. They had comprehensive control of the Red Army, managed by a complex system of party representatives connected to every unit of the army.


          This control was at once overt and covert. The second visit Davies described was a visit to Romania, where visitors could only hold conversations with locals if both parties had a red disc identifying them as people approved to talk to locals or foreigners respectively. Despite this barrier, they were able to gain an insight into a Soviet delegation visiting at the same time. No one in that delegation knew who was leading it. There was, as was generally the case, a figurehead, but someone else was pulling the strings, and they were doing it secretly. This pattern occurred at all levels of society, creating a climate of fear and uncertainty.


          Finally he described visiting a forest in 1991, and finding a cross at the side of the road. It marked the forest as a site of mass graves, where at least 300,000 people were buried. They had been killed in Stalin’s Great Terror in the 1930s. The system was built on fear and mass killings, and even when they stopped in the 1960s, their legacy of terror remained.


          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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          • Copier Addict
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            #7205
            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
            You're what I call a "Google Warrior". You think you can google the definition of a word and that's the end-call be-all. I think you're obviously a poorly educated man. I have nothing against the poorly educated. Most are hard working, good folk. But it's frustrating trying to make you understand the difference between a theory and real world.


            Let's start your education by reading this:

            The moment I start taking advice from a proven liar is the moment I completely give up on life.

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              #7206
              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

              Originally posted by copier addict
              The moment I start taking advice from a proven liar is the moment I completely give up on life.

              Small thoughts fit easily into a closed mind. Big thoughts require an open mind.
              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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              • Copier Addict
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                #7207
                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                Small thoughts fit easily into a closed mind. Big thoughts require an open mind.

                It's refreshing to see you admit your impairment Billy. Well done.

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                  Originally posted by copier addict
                  It's refreshing to see you admit your impairment Billy. Well done.

                  Lets do a test. How old were you the last time you changed your mind on a major political issue?


                  I was in my 40's when I changed my mind about same-sex marriage. I was agaisnt it my entire life unitl I was in my 40's.


                  I also changed my mind about the existence of God after I was 40. That was a tough one for me to say that I didn't believe in God.

                  I bet you can't name a big issue in which you changed your mind recently. Go.
                  Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                    Lets do a test. How old were you the last time you changed your mind on a major political issue?


                    I was in my 40's when I changed my mind about same-sex marriage. I was agaisnt it my entire life unitl I was in my 40's.


                    I also changed my mind about the existence of God after I was 40. That was a tough one for me to say that I didn't believe in God.

                    I bet you can't name a big issue in which you changed your mind recently. Go.

                    I'm not sure how old I was but I used to think like you. I was selfish and thought people who were down on their luck or homeless were just lazy.
                    I can't remember the exact moment I started realising that there are a lot of different reasons for people to be in bad situations. But now I feel empathy and no longer judge a person by their circumstances.

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                    • slimslob
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                      #7210
                      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                      Originally posted by Phil B.
                      She has lost her damn mind. Grocery stores AREN'T causing inflation to rise, it's the stupid policies that this incompetent admin has imposed.
                      The biggest fuck up is the demolition of the energy independent state we had before Biden.

                      Elizabeth Warren Launches Another Fact-Free Attack On Grocery Stores - Political Daily

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                      If she thinks grocery prices are high in the big corporate chain markets, she ought to shop at a small local neighborhood market.

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                      • Phil B.
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                        #7211
                        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                        Originally posted by copier addict
                        The moment I start taking advice from a proven liar is the moment I completely give up on life.
                        So, you should have done that Jan 20 2021.

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                        • slimslob
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                          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                          Originally posted by copier addict
                          The moment I start taking advice from a proven liar is the moment I completely give up on life.
                          So according to that statement you must not take advice from yourself. Who do you take advice from?

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                          • Phil B.
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                            #7213
                            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                            Originally posted by slimslob
                            If she thinks grocery prices are high in the big corporate chain markets, she ought to shop at a small local neighborhood market.
                            I try to shop local every chance I get.

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                            • Copier Addict
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                              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                              Originally posted by Phil B.
                              So, you should have done that Jan 20 2021.

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                              Originally posted by slimslob
                              So according to that statement you must not take advice from yourself. Who do you take advice from?

                              Hahaha
                              You two are hillarious.

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                              • slimslob
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                                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                                Originally posted by copier addict
                                I'm not sure how old I was but I used to think like you. I was selfish and thought people who were down on their luck or homeless were just lazy.
                                I can't remember the exact moment I started realising that there are a lot of different reasons for people to be in bad situations. But now I feel empathy and no longer judge a person by their circumstances.
                                Maybe it is time you realize that you are still selfish, possibly even more because you absolute refuse to be open mind about anything. Most people are in a bad situation because that is where liberals in government want them.

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