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  • bsm2
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    #13906

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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      #13907
      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

      ... the responsible path forward when dealing with the out of touch Republican party driven by extreme MAGA congress persons and a House Republican leader placed in a very weak position.

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      • BBM
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        #13908
        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

        Congress passed a debt limit increase . Who is avoiding talks and playing the waiting game ? i guess dems are waiting for the media to carry there arguments and talking points .

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        • SalesServiceGuy
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          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

          Originally posted by BBM
          Congress passed a debt limit increase . Who is avoiding talks and playing the waiting game ? i guess dems are waiting for the media to carry there arguments and talking points .
          If you are OK with steep cuts to Medicare, Social Assistance, the Food Stamp program and Veterans Affairs, you would endorse the Republican plan. Many people are not OK with the plan forced by extreme MAGA Republicans.

          Only one vote is required in the Republican wacko filled Congress to iniate a recall of Republican leader McCarthy. Unlike past republican speakers who held strong power within their caucus, there is no guarantee that McCarthy can negotiate any changes to the debt ceiling proposal presented to President Biden.
          Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 05-10-2023, 02:55 PM.

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          • BillyCarpenter
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            #13910
            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
            If you are OK with steep cuts to Medicare, Social Assistance, the Food Stamp program and Veterans Affairs, you would endorse the Republican plan. Many people are not OK with the plan forced by extreme MAGA Republicans.

            Only one vote is required in the Republican wacko filled Congress to recall Republican leader McCarthy. Unlike past republican speakers who held strong power within their caucus, there is no guarantee that McCarthy can negotiate any changes to the debt ceiling proposal presented to President Biden.

            This man has a huge, caring heart. His heart is so big that while he lives in a totally different country, he takes the time out of his busy schedule every day to tell us what's best for the USA. How many of you sit around thinking about another country every day?
            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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            • slimslob
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              #13911
              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

              Originally posted by BBM
              Congress passed a debt limit increase . Who is avoiding talks and playing the waiting game ? i guess dems are waiting for the media to carry there arguments and talking points .
              Yeah Biden agreed to sit down and talk. And then at those talks yesterday said he will not negotiate. Therefore when we default it will be entirely on Biden.

              Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
              If you are OK with steep cuts to Medicare, Social Assistance, the Food Stamp program and Veterans Affairs, you would endorse the Republican plan. Many people are not OK with the plan forced by extreme MAGA Republicans.

              Only one vote is required in the Republican wacko filled Congress to iniate a recall of Republican leader McCarthy. Unlike past republican speakers who held strong power within their caucus, there is no guarantee that McCarthy can negotiate any changes to the debt ceiling proposal presented to President Biden.
              The debt limit passed by the House does not make any cuts to Social Security or Medicare. What it will do is cut bureaucratic pork and fraud. Welfare and food stamp program are loaded fraud that needs to be cut along with bureaucratic excesses. As for the Veteran Administration benefits to veterans are protected by the 14th Amendment. The VA itself can be done away with. My Army Reserve retirement does not come from the VA, it comes from the Defense Department. The exact system that my pay came from before I was forced to retire at age 60, Defense Finance and Accounting System. Once again the VA is nothing but a bunch of over payed bureaucrats.

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              • davidmtupper
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                #13912
                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                Continually raising the debt ceiling is just kicking the can down the road. As soon as the current crisis is over it will be ignored until the next time we hit the ceiling. The problems inherent in the current system need to be fixed, not accommodated by more debt. If this requires some pain on the part of the government (them not getting everything they want with no compromise) it will save longer term, greater pain for everyone in this country. If it causes pain world wide, that is a problem for other countries that rely too much on the US for aid in many ways.

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                • Phil B.
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                  #13913
                  Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                  House probe unveils fresh evidence contradicting Joe Biden claims about family’s foreign deals | Just The News

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                  • SalesServiceGuy
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                    #13914
                    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                    THE WHITE HOUSE APRIL 20, 2023

                    Congressional Republicans’ Legislation: 22% Cuts That Would Harm American Families, Seniors and Veterans

                    By Shalanda Young, Director of the Office of Management and Budget

                    Yesterday, Speaker McCarthy and Congressional Republicans doubled down on threatening default in order to extract a wish list of extreme, unrelated policies that will hurt hard-working families. The legislation Congressional Republicans have drafted is designed to avoid leveling with the American people about how these cuts would impact their lives. So I want to be very clear about exactly what this plan would mean for families and communities across the country.

                    The legislation Congressional Republicans introduced sets overall appropriations for Fiscal Year 2024 at the same level as FY 2022. At this level, all appropriated funding—including both defense and domestic programs—would be cut deeply. However, Congressional Republicans have indicated that they are not willing to cut defense funding at all, which means that everything else in annual appropriations—from cancer research, to education, to veterans’ health care—would be cut by much more.
                    The math is simple, but unforgiving. At their proposed topline funding level—and with defense funding left untouched as Republicans have proposed—everything else is forced to suffer enormous cuts. In fact, their bill would force a cut of 22 percent[1]—cuts that would grow deeper and deeper with each year of their plan.
                    What would that mean for the American people just in the first year of their plan? Consider just a few examples:


                    • Undermine Medical Care for Veterans: Cutting funding by 22 percent would mean 30 million fewer veteran outpatient visits, and 81,000 jobs lost across the Veterans Health Administration—leaving veterans unable to get appointments for care including wellness visits, cancer screenings, mental health services, and substance use disorder treatment.
                    • Slash Funding for Schools with Low-Income Students and Students with Disabilities: A 22 percent cut would impact 25 million students in schools that teach low-income students and 7.5 million students with disabilities, which could force a reduction of up to 108,000 teachers, aides or other key staff.
                    • Eliminate Preschool and Child Care for Hundreds of Thousands of Children: A 22 percent cut would mean 200,000 children lose access to Head Start slots and another 180,000 children lose access to child care—undermining our children’s education and making it more difficult for parents to join the workforce and contribute to our economy.
                    • Strip Nutrition Assistance from Millions of Women, Infants, and Children: A 22 percent cut would mean 1.7 million women, infants, and children would lose vital nutrition assistance through the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), significantly increasing child poverty and hunger.
                    • Rob Seniors of Healthy Meals: A 22 percent cut would take away nutrition services, such as Meals on Wheels, from more than 1 million seniors. For many of these seniors, these programs provide the only healthy meal they receive on any given day.
                    • Raise Housing Costs for Hundreds of Thousands: A 22 percent cut would eliminate funding for Housing Choice Vouchers for over 630,000 households, including 190,000 households headed by seniors and 50,000 veterans.
                    • Scale Back Rail Safety Inspections: A 22 percent cut would result in 7,000 fewer rail safety inspection days next year alone, and 30,000 fewer miles of track inspected annually—enough track to cross the United States nearly 10 times.


                    These are just a few examples—the list goes on and on. A 22 percent cut to the National Institutes of Health would delay cancer and Alzheimer’s research. A 22 percent cut to the Army Corps of Engineers would affect key water resources projects all over the country. A 22 percent cut to the Department of Homeland Security would undermine border management and drug interdiction. And under their bill, these cuts would get even deeper over time. There is no escaping the pain to working families and our economic future: if they seek to protect any area from cuts, it only means more harmful cuts to all of the other painful impacts listed above.

                    Beyond these impacts, this bill would also hold our economy hostage to even more cuts that would undermine our recovery and harm hard-working families, seniors, and students. It would repeal tax credits from the Inflation Reduction Act that are leading to hundreds of billions of dollars in private sector investment in the United States and thousands of jobs. It would put food assistance at risk for many older Americans, cut Medicaid by introducing bureaucratic work reporting requirements that state experiences show would cause millions of people to lose coverage—including working people and people with disabilities—without increasing employment, and deepen hardship for some of the nation’s most vulnerable children. It would eliminate President Biden’s student debt relief plan, taking away breathing room for 26 million Americans who have already applied or are automatically eligible. And it would increase energy bills for families, while also increasing pollution.

                    This bill is vague by design—but that doesn’t obscure the fact that it will force devastating cuts that will hurt millions of people, damage our economy, and undermine our national security. That approach stands in stark contrast to the President’s Budget, which invests in the American people, grows the economy from the middle out and bottom up, and reduces the deficit by nearly $3 trillion by asking the wealthy and big corporations to pay their fair share.

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      #13915
                      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                      THE WHITE HOUSE APRIL 20, 2023

                      By Shalanda Young, Director of the Office of Management and Budget
                      everything else[1]
                      • Undermine Medical Care for Veterans: Slash Funding for Schools with Low-Income Students and Students with Disabilities: A 22 percent cut would impact 25 million students in schools that teach low-income students and 7.5 million students with disabilities, which could force a reduction of up to 108,000 teachers, aides or other key staff.
                      • Eliminate Preschool and Child Care for Hundreds of Thousands of Children:Strip Nutrition Assistance from Millions of Women, Infants, and Children: A 22 percent cut would mean 1.7 million women, infants, and children would lose vital nutrition assistance through the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), significantly increasing child poverty and hunger.
                      • Rob Seniors of Healthy Meals: A 22 percent cut would take away nutrition services, such as Meals on Wheels, from more than 1 million seniors. For many of these seniors, these programs provide the only healthy meal they receive on any given day.
                      • Raise Housing Costs for Hundreds of Thousands: A 22 percent cut would eliminate funding for Housing Choice Vouchers for over 630,000 households, including 190,000 households headed by seniors and 50,000 veterans.
                      • Scale Back Rail Safety Inspections:
                      National Institutes of HealthArmy Corps of Engineers would affect key water resources projects all over the country. A 22 percent cut to the Department of Homeland Security would undermine border management and drug interdiction. And under their bill, these cuts would get even deeper over time. There is no escaping the pain to working families and our economic future: if they seek to protect any area from cuts, it only means more harmful cuts to all of the other painful impacts listed above.

                      Beyond these impacts, this bill would also hold our economy hostage to even more cuts that would undermine our recovery and harm hard-working families, seniors, and students. It would repeal tax credits from the Inflation Reduction Act that are leading to hundreds of billions of dollars in private sector investment in the United States and thousands of jobs. It would put food assistance at risk for many older Americans, cut Medicaid by introducing bureaucratic work reporting requirements that state experiencesworking people and people with disabilities26 million Americans who have already applied or are automatically eligible. And it would increase energy bills

                      Why weren't you worried when billions were being spent on illegal immigrants? Or how about all the foreign aid?
                      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                      • BBM
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                        #13916
                        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                        Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                        THE WHITE HOUSE APRIL 20, 2023

                        By Shalanda Young, Director of the Office of Management and Budget
                        everything else[1]
                        • Undermine Medical Care for Veterans: Slash Funding for Schools with Low-Income Students and Students with Disabilities: A 22 percent cut would impact 25 million students in schools that teach low-income students and 7.5 million students with disabilities, which could force a reduction of up to 108,000 teachers, aides or other key staff.
                        • Eliminate Preschool and Child Care for Hundreds of Thousands of Children:Strip Nutrition Assistance from Millions of Women, Infants, and Children: A 22 percent cut would mean 1.7 million women, infants, and children would lose vital nutrition assistance through the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), significantly increasing child poverty and hunger.
                        • Rob Seniors of Healthy Meals: A 22 percent cut would take away nutrition services, such as Meals on Wheels, from more than 1 million seniors. For many of these seniors, these programs provide the only healthy meal they receive on any given day.
                        • Raise Housing Costs for Hundreds of Thousands: A 22 percent cut would eliminate funding for Housing Choice Vouchers for over 630,000 households, including 190,000 households headed by seniors and 50,000 veterans.
                        • Scale Back Rail Safety Inspections:
                        National Institutes of HealthArmy Corps of Engineers would affect key water resources projects all over the country. A 22 percent cut to the Department of Homeland Security would undermine border management and drug interdiction. And under their bill, these cuts would get even deeper over time. There is no escaping the pain to working families and our economic future: if they seek to protect any area from cuts, it only means more harmful cuts to all of the other painful impacts listed above.

                        Beyond these impacts, this bill would also hold our economy hostage to even more cuts that would undermine our recovery and harm hard-working families, seniors, and students. It would repeal tax credits from the Inflation Reduction Act that are leading to hundreds of billions of dollars in private sector investment in the United States and thousands of jobs. It would put food assistance at risk for many older Americans, cut Medicaid by introducing bureaucratic work reporting requirements that state experiencesworking people and people with disabilities26 million Americans who have already applied or are automatically eligible. And it would increase energy bills


                        BLABLABLA , right on cue media . That bad but yet no urgency from the dems .

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          #13917
                          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                          Biden is compromised. He should step down immediately or be removed from office.


                          NEW - House Oversight reveals the nine Biden family members that received wire transfers from foreign nationals via shell companies.


                          1. Hunter Biden
                          2. James Biden
                          3. Sara Biden
                          4. Hallie Biden
                          5. Kathleen Biden
                          6. Melissa Biden
                          7. Niece/nephew
                          8. Niece/nephew
                          9. Grandchild
                          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                          • BillyCarpenter
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                            #13918
                            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                            • SalesServiceGuy
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                              #13919
                              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                              Originally posted by BBM
                              BLABLABLA , right on cue media . That bad but yet no urgency from the dems .
                              President Biden gave a one hour speech in New York about this topic today. President Biden has called for a new meeting with the Republican leaders on Friday.

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                              • slimslob
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                                #13920
                                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                                Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                                THE WHITE HOUSE APRIL 20, 2023

                                Congressional Republicans’ Legislation: 22% Cuts That Would Harm American Families, Seniors and Veterans

                                By Shalanda Young, Director of the Office of Management and Budget

                                Yesterday, Speaker McCarthy and Congressional Republicans doubled down on threatening default in order to extract a wish list of extreme, unrelated policies that will hurt hard-working families. The legislation Congressional Republicans have drafted is designed to avoid leveling with the American people about how these cuts would impact their lives. So I want to be very clear about exactly what this plan would mean for families and communities across the country.

                                The legislation Congressional Republicans introduced sets overall appropriations for Fiscal Year 2024 at the same level as FY 2022. At this level, all appropriated funding—including both defense and domestic programs—would be cut deeply. However, Congressional Republicans have indicated that they are not willing to cut defense funding at all, which means that everything else in annual appropriations—from cancer research, to education, to veterans’ health care—would be cut by much more.
                                The math is simple, but unforgiving. At their proposed topline funding level—and with defense funding left untouched as Republicans have proposed—everything else is forced to suffer enormous cuts. In fact, their bill would force a cut of 22 percent[1]—cuts that would grow deeper and deeper with each year of their plan.
                                What would that mean for the American people just in the first year of their plan? Consider just a few examples:


                                • Undermine Medical Care for Veterans: Cutting funding by 22 percent would mean 30 million fewer veteran outpatient visits, and 81,000 jobs lost across the Veterans Health Administration—leaving veterans unable to get appointments for care including wellness visits, cancer screenings, mental health services, and substance use disorder treatment.
                                • Slash Funding for Schools with Low-Income Students and Students with Disabilities: A 22 percent cut would impact 25 million students in schools that teach low-income students and 7.5 million students with disabilities, which could force a reduction of up to 108,000 teachers, aides or other key staff.
                                • Eliminate Preschool and Child Care for Hundreds of Thousands of Children: A 22 percent cut would mean 200,000 children lose access to Head Start slots and another 180,000 children lose access to child care—undermining our children’s education and making it more difficult for parents to join the workforce and contribute to our economy.
                                • Strip Nutrition Assistance from Millions of Women, Infants, and Children: A 22 percent cut would mean 1.7 million women, infants, and children would lose vital nutrition assistance through the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), significantly increasing child poverty and hunger.
                                • Rob Seniors of Healthy Meals: A 22 percent cut would take away nutrition services, such as Meals on Wheels, from more than 1 million seniors. For many of these seniors, these programs provide the only healthy meal they receive on any given day.
                                • Raise Housing Costs for Hundreds of Thousands: A 22 percent cut would eliminate funding for Housing Choice Vouchers for over 630,000 households, including 190,000 households headed by seniors and 50,000 veterans.
                                • Scale Back Rail Safety Inspections: A 22 percent cut would result in 7,000 fewer rail safety inspection days next year alone, and 30,000 fewer miles of track inspected annually—enough track to cross the United States nearly 10 times.


                                These are just a few examples—the list goes on and on. A 22 percent cut to the National Institutes of Health would delay cancer and Alzheimer’s research. A 22 percent cut to the Army Corps of Engineers would affect key water resources projects all over the country. A 22 percent cut to the Department of Homeland Security would undermine border management and drug interdiction. And under their bill, these cuts would get even deeper over time. There is no escaping the pain to working families and our economic future: if they seek to protect any area from cuts, it only means more harmful cuts to all of the other painful impacts listed above.

                                Beyond these impacts, this bill would also hold our economy hostage to even more cuts that would undermine our recovery and harm hard-working families, seniors, and students. It would repeal tax credits from the Inflation Reduction Act that are leading to hundreds of billions of dollars in private sector investment in the United States and thousands of jobs. It would put food assistance at risk for many older Americans, cut Medicaid by introducing bureaucratic work reporting requirements that state experiences show would cause millions of people to lose coverage—including working people and people with disabilities—without increasing employment, and deepen hardship for some of the nation’s most vulnerable children. It would eliminate President Biden’s student debt relief plan, taking away breathing room for 26 million Americans who have already applied or are automatically eligible. And it would increase energy bills for families, while also increasing pollution.

                                This bill is vague by design—but that doesn’t obscure the fact that it will force devastating cuts that will hurt millions of people, damage our economy, and undermine our national security. That approach stands in stark contrast to the President’s Budget, which invests in the American people, grows the economy from the middle out and bottom up, and reduces the deficit by nearly $3 trillion by asking the wealthy and big corporations to pay their fair share.
                                I wonder if this Canadian has even taken the time to read the text of either H.R.2811 - Limit, Save, Grow Act of 2023 or H.R.2811 - Limit, Save, Grow Act of 2023? Medical Care for anyone let alone veterans is not mentioned. In fact Veterans are not mentioned at all. Schools are not mentioned. Etc, Etc, Etc. In fact the only place that 22% or 22 % or 22 Percent is even mentioned has to do with energy rebates and those are already on their way out.

                                Maybe this is about the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022? But you know what, that was the 117th Congress not the 118th Congress. Democrat Nancy Pelosi was House Speaker then. That could also explain the repeated use of the number 22.

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