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  • Copier Addict
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    #14926
    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

    Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
    ... six countries in the world allow late term abortions. 37 more allow mid-term abortions.

    God to athesists is a ficticional character and does not have any ability to grant any rights to anybody, either living persons or fetuses.

    The way I see it is if you need a God and a religion to keep you from doing bad things you are just a bad person in a leash.

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      #14927
      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

      Originally posted by copier addict
      Because we don't hate our women.
      Because we believe our women are able to make their own decisions.
      Interesting. I guess all the countries that don't allow late term abortoins hate their women.
      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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      • BillyCarpenter
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        #14928
        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

        Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
        ... six countries in the world allow late term abortions. 37 more allow mid-term abortions.

        God to athesists is a ficticional character and does not have any ability to grant any rights to anybody, either living persons or fetuses.

        A point of order is needed here. Is there a reason that you didn't list those countries? According to copier addict, these laws mean that a country love their women. Here are those countries that love women:



        China, North Korea and Canada do not have federally enforced limits on elective abortion.
        Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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        • bsm2
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          #14929
          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
          Interesting. I guess all the countries that don't allow late term abortoins hate their women.
          Just this ONE issue the Blue Wave of women are going to crush Republicans

          Write it down

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          • slimslob
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            #14930
            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

            Originally posted by copier addict
            Because we don't hate our women.
            Ergo, you want to have sex with as many as possible as often as possible regardless of their age without having to worry about the consequences.

            Because we believe our women are able to make their own decisions.
            Translation. you just do not want to have to pay child support for 18 years should you happen to get some sweet young thing pregnant.

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            • slimslob
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              #14931
              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

              Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
              ... six countries in the world allow late term abortions. 37 more allow mid-term abortions.

              God to athesists is a ficticional character and does not have any ability to grant any rights to anybody, either living persons or fetuses.
              In other words, you hate the Declaration of Independence and all other US historical founding documents. Just like a true Communist.

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              • SalesServiceGuy
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                #14932
                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                Originally posted by slimslob
                In other words, you hate the Declaration of Independence and all other US historical founding documents. Just like a true Communist.
                ... the USA is not the center of the world anymore on most social issues, torn apart by the Republicans denying most facts and the Democrats trying to push forward a populist agenda.

                President Joe Biden is doing great things to make America Great for all of it's citizens, not just old, rich, white men at the top.

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                • Copier Addict
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                  #14933
                  Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                  A point of order is needed here. Is there a reason that you didn't list those countries? According to copier addict, these laws mean that a country love their women. Here are those countries that love women:



                  China, North Korea and Canada do not have federally enforced limits on elective abortion.
                  I don't recall mentioning China or North Korea. Oh yeah, that's because I didn't. Maybe you forgot, it's trumpy that admires the leaders of both of those countries.

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    #14934
                    Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                    Originally posted by slimslob
                    Ergo, you want to have sex with as many as possible as often as possible regardless of their age without having to worry about the consequences.



                    Translation. you just do not want to have to pay child support for 18 years should you happen to get some sweet young thing pregnant.

                    Seriously? I'm really beginning to think you are on drugs.

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                    • bsm2
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                      #14935
                      Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        #14936
                        Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                        Originally posted by copier addict
                        I don't recall mentioning China or North Korea. Oh yeah, that's because I didn't. Maybe you forgot, it's trumpy that admires the leaders of both of those countries.
                        You're going to have to break it down for me. You said that your abortion laws show that Canada love its women. North Korea and China have the same laws, no other country does. You understand the confusion, no?

                        In any event, Canada is keeping good company on it's abortion laws.
                        Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                        • SalesServiceGuy
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                          Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                          Canada is a proud world leader on women's rights with many women in key gov't positions.

                          While some political oppostion groups are trying to engage the Canadian population in some of the US culture wars, most Canadians ignore them. Thankfully, Canada does not have a local version of Fox News, etc that attracts many viewers/readers.

                          The US Republican party in Ohio recently experienced that pushing lop sided abortion issues is a big political loser.

                          While these culture issues might be big with registered Republicans, they represent no more than 28-39% of potential voters.

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                          • BillyCarpenter
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                            #14938
                            Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                            Canada is a proud world leader on women's rights with many women in key gov't positions.

                            While some political oppostion groups are trying to engage the Canadian population in some of the US culture wars, most Canadians ignore them. Thankfully, Canada does not have a local version of Fox News, etc that attracts many viewers/readers.

                            The US Republican party in Ohio recently experienced that pushing lop sided abortion issues is a big political loser.

                            While these culture issues might be big with registered Republicans, they represent no more than 28-39% of potential voters.
                            I won't argue that abortion restrictions are popular with women. However, the old abortion laws made it so that women didn't have to accept responsibility for their actions. They could sleep around with multiple men and if they got pregnant, they could simply abort the unborn baby. Moreover, popularity should never factor into important decisions. If a person believes that abortion is wrong, they should vote their conscience. Let the chips fall where they may.

                            Also, I find that most liberals aren't really proud of their abortion laws. When pressed, they don't give a solid answer and dance around the question.

                            Here's what I'm talking about.

                            If a woman wants to abort a healthy baby @ 9-months, do you support that? I'm just looking for a yes or no answer.
                            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                            • SalesServiceGuy
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                              #14939
                              Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                              Yes, it is 100% her choice. She has to live with the consequences of her decision for the rest of her life and does not need the opinion of strangers like yourself who will never donate a dime to support the child.

                              Your question is loaded. Only a very small % of abortions occur at this time in a women's pregnancy and if it does occur it is because it is certain the fetus is medically compromised or the mothers life is at significant risk.

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                                #14940
                                Re: The Shining City Upon a Hill

                                Powerful Federal Lawsuit to DISQUALIFY Trump filed in Florida


                                The challenge was filed in federal court in the Southern District of Florida citing the 14th Amendment's "disqualification clause."


                                Should Trump lose this case, or any similar case in any other state in the USA, he effectively has lost any chance he has for re-election.

                                14th Amendment, Section 3: A new legal battle against Trump takes shape - ABC News

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