Canada failed again

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God, I read that original article. Complete clickbait.

It is certainly possible that Canada has been a laggard in terms of getting the vaccines out.
However, it is worth bearing in mind:

1. The Canadian government were caught off-guard by how quickly the vaccines were available for delivery. They were expected to arrive sometime in min- to late-January, but the first stuff rolled in in December. The government were taken completely off guard.

2. Israel is a small fraction of the size of Canada with a population which is evenly distributed. Canada is an enormous country with a lot of people living remotely and not able to get the Pfizer vaccine mostly because of the refrigeration requirements. Some of the most at-risk people live in very remote areas that are only accessible by plane or boat.

3. The UK is densely populated and is tiny in comparison. Rolling out vaccines there would be trivially simple.

Articles like that just don't contain enough context to be taken seriously.

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Dr. Isaac Bogoch, an infectious diseases specialist affiliated with the University of Toronto, told CTV's Your Morning on Wednesday that, while Canada has "picked up the pace" on vaccine deployment, he would like to see a speedier rollout.

"Yes, things are definitely better, but you cannot have vaccines sitting in freezers. This is a crisis. You've got to get these into arms as quickly as possible," he said.
"It's the middle of January. We should be a well-oiled machine at this point in time."

At this pace, it would take 5,800 days to give every Canadians two doses of vaccine, meaning the final shots would be given in 2036.

In 29 days, Canada has given enough COVID-19 vaccine doses to cover 1 per cent of population | CTV News

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At this pace, it would take 5,800 days to give every Canadians two doses of vaccine, meaning the final shots would be given in 2036.

It's not going to take anywhere near that long in practise. The logistics are still ramping up.

It is also a common misconception that you need 100% vaccine coverage to stop the disease in it's tracks. Probably 40% coverage would probably do it. It's all about decreasing the infection rate per person substantially. Once we approach that level of general coverage throughout the population, infection rates will fall of a cliff.

The media are making hay on articles about people saying that they do not want the vaccine, and about stories of people not having it because of a history of allergic reactions. It's all a bit of a storm in a teacup really. As long as a large number of people distributed throughout the population do get it, then that will suffice.

Here in Canada, we are hoping that the Moderna vaccine and the others that don't require such extreme storage cooling will help remote communities.

My wife got her jab the other day since she is a nurse. Got a bit of an achy arm the following day but nothing much else to worry about.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Thus far the USA has vaccinated 3x the number of folks compared to Canada.

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Thus far the USA has vaccinated 3x the number of folks compared to Canada.

That's excellent news!

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Pfizer vaccine delayed due to production issues.

Canada's coming month of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine shipments will be reduced by half | CTV News

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Pfizer vaccine delayed due to production issues.

Canada's coming month of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine shipments will be reduced by half | CTV News

More like people were getting sick n dying from biden's buddies vaccine.

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More like people were getting sick n dying from biden's buddies vaccine.

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It wasn't that long ago that you were bragging how Trump created the vaccines. Have things changed?

[BillyCarpenter]

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Canada still failing. They rely on our military to protect them. Rely on us for a vaccine.



Explained: What the Pfizer shortage means for Canada's vaccine rollout



TORONTO -- Canada won’t receive a single vial of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine this week due to an international shortage that has prompted finger-pointing in Ottawa and forced provinces to temporarily delay their vaccine rollouts.
For the next four weeks, Canada’s vaccine deliveries will be cut in half with up to 400,000 doses delayed, according to Maj.-Gen. Dany Fortin, who is leading the country’s vaccine rollout. Canada won’t receive any new deliveries from Pfizer this week, and only one-quarter of the previously promised delivery next week.
Pfizer advised Canada earlier this month that upgrades to its plant in Belgium would temporarily slow production and reduce doses delivered to every country except the United States, which has its own production facility. The factory is expected to return to full production on Feb. 15.


The upgrades are expected to help boost Pfizer’s annual production capacity from 1.3 billion shots in 2021 to up to 2 billion, which would be enough to cover about 13 per cent of the world’s population.Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke directly to Pfizer’s CEO last week and said he was assured that, despite the slowdown, the company will fulfil its contractual promise to deliver four million doses to Canada by the end of March.

The next shipment of Canada’s second approved vaccine, from Moderna, is expected in the first week of February and will include an estimated 230,400 doses.
In the meantime, the temporary shortage has forced provinces and territories to pump the brakes on their vaccine rollout plans. Opposition parties have accused the Liberals of mishandling the vaccine rollout and pointed to other countries, including the U.S. and the U.K., where more people have received their shots.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE VACCINE ROLLOUT?

Federal health officials overseeing Canada’s vaccine plan insist the Pfizer delay is temporary and will not hamper the country’s long-term goal of vaccinating every Canadian by Sept. 30. Fortin said future shipments and “a rapid scale-up of deliveries in the upcoming weeks” will make up for the current shortage.
For now, provinces have started retooling their vaccination plans to prolong the time between vaccinations and, in some cases, are turning people away from new vaccine appointments.
Ontario Premier Doug Ford called the Pfizer shortage “a massive concern” and announced that the province will no longer be able to meet its goal of vaccinating all residents and staff in long-term care homes by Feb. 15.
Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Saskatchewan and British Columbia will all slow down their vaccine schedules to stretch whatever vaccine supply they have on hand. The provinces will delay second doses up to 42 days, with Quebec prolonging the wait up to 90 days.
The National Advisory Council On Immunization has advised that the wait period between first and second doses could be extended up to 42 days.
In Alberta, officials have paused new appointments for those looking to get their first vaccine. Manitoba temporarily stopped booking new appointments but is expected to resume this week.

WILL THE SHORTAGE MEAN LONG-TERM DELAYS?

The federal government insists that the country’s long-term vaccine rollout remains on track. Officials released projections last week that suggest Canada will still meet its goal of vaccinating 3 million people by the end of March, accounting for eight per cent of the entire population. A total of 36 million Canadians are expected to be vaccinated by the end of September.
Even if Canada doesn’t approve any more vaccines by the fall, estimates suggest that doses from Pfizer and Moderna will cover 13 million Canadians, or 34 per cent, by June and 36 million, or 95 per cent, by September 30.
Canada’s vaccine rollout could happen even faster if more vaccines are approved. The projections suggest that, based on all vaccines Canada has procured but have yet to be approved, as many as 23 million Canadians could be vaccinated between April and June, accounting for 61 per cent of the population. Canada could have enough doses for up to 73 million people between July on September. In such a scenario, there would be more than enough vaccines for everyone who wants one.

HOW DOES CANADA COMPARE TO OTHER COUNTRIES?

So far, 761,530 people in Canada have received at least their first shot of either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine, accounting for roughly two per cent of the population.
In the United States, about six per cent of the population has received at least their first shot. However, the U.S. is lagging when it comes to administering available vaccines, with only about half of all shots available still undistributed.
In Israel, which secured a large stock of Pfizer vaccines from the get-go, more than 2.5 million of the country’s 9 million people have been vaccinated. Teenagers between 16 and 18 are now receiving vaccines on the condition that they receive parental permission. https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/israel-expands-vaccination-campaign-

Canada’s rollout is more on par with countries such as Finland, Austria, Poland, Switzerland and Estonia, all of which have vaccinated around two per cent of their populations.
Canada is hardly alone when it comes to the delays. Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and several European countries have all begun slowing down vaccinations, and Italy has threatened to sue Pfizer.
In Ottawa, the Liberals have been criticized for how they’re managing the rollout. Some members of the opposition have called on Trudeau to ask U.S. President Joe Biden for help.
NDP House Leader Peter Julian said the Liberals need to explain the situation to Canadians.
"Why are other countries ahead?" Julian said. "That's the question that the government will have to respond to. And we believe that the government needs to very clearly spell out their plan to accelerate the vaccine distribution across the country.”
The government says it has worked hard to secure as many doses as possible and signed multiple contracts in anticipation of multiple vaccine candidates booming available in the coming months.


With files from The Canadian Press


https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/explained-what-the-pfizer-shortage-means-for-canada-s-vaccine-rollout-1.5283261

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For those keeping score:


In the United States, about six per cent of the population has received at least their first shot.

Canada’s rollout is more on par with countries such as Finland, Austria, Poland, Switzerland and Estonia, all of which have vaccinated around two per cent of their populations.

Trump - 1
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The U.S. is vaccinating nearly 1M people per day. How does Canada compare?



As the United States moves to vaccinate around one million people per day against the novel coronavirus, Canada appears to be falling short.
As of Sunday, Canada had administered 816,557 vaccine doses. In comparison, the U.S. had administered 20,537,990, according to the latest numbers from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
On a per capita basis, the U.S. has so far inoculated 5.2 per cent of its population, while Canada stands at 1.1.
In total, 1,119,225 doses of the vaccine have been delivered to the provinces and territories as of Jan. 21. However, only 72.9 per cent of those doses have been administered.



“We just haven’t had great planning on this,” he said.
“I know health care professionals that volunteered weeks and even more than a month [ahead] to go to help with the vaccine rollout. And they haven’t even been contacted.”




https://globalnews.ca/news/7596337/canada-us-coronavirus-vaccinations/

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Biden 1 Won
Trudeau 1 Won
Trump 0 Loser

[BillyCarpenter]

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Biden 1 Won
Trudeau 1 Won
Trump 0 Loser

Biden can impress me if he issued an executive order that no vaccines would be shipped to Canada or other countries before every American has access to the vaccine. America First.

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Biden can impress me if he issued an executive order that no vaccines would be shipped to Canada or other countries before every American has access to the vaccine. America First.

Guess you should boycott the vaccines as ALL are shipped worldwide
Maybe the other idiot should have bought more doses when offered.

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Guess you should boycott the vaccines as ALL are shipped worldwide
Maybe the other idiot should have bought more doses when offered.

Canada keeps getting hammered for their big time failures. Check it out. Europe is threating to lock Canada and other countries out.




Canadian vaccine maker says it would be closer to rollout if it had more help from Ottawa


As the European Union threatens to limit the export of COVID-19 vaccines, one company says it's time for the federal government to throw its support behind made-in-Canada alternatives.

While international companies like Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna have dominated the COVID-19 vaccine game so far, several Canadian companies are also working on their own vaccine candidates.

One of them, Toronto-based Providence Therapeutics, announced Tuesday that it has started human clinical trials to test its candidate, an mRNA vaccine that works similarly to Moderna's.

The federal government has provided funding to the Canadian companies working on vaccines, but struck procurement deals with Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, both of which are manufactured abroad. The government has said Canada lacks the capacity to manufacture the millions of doses needed to immunize the population.

As It Happens has reached out to Procurement Minister Anita Anand for an interview.

Providence Therapeutics CEO Brad Sorenson says his company hopes to have a vaccine ready for rollout by early next year. But he says it could have happened a lot sooner had the federal government gotten on board early.

Here is part of his conversation with As It Happens host Carol Off.

How soon might you be able to get through the different phases and get to production of a vaccine that Canadians might be getting?
If everything goes smoothly, we should be able to finish the clinical trial process this year and be able to be rolling out commercial vaccines to Canadians by early 2022.
How much support have you had from Ottawa with your project?

We ultimately got two funding grants from the government. One was through an organization called NGen, which stands for Next Generation Manufacturing, and that was a grant that allowed us to purchase some equipment. And we got that in partnership with another company called Northern RNA so that we could start building out manufacturing…. So we got about $3.5 million for that.

And then we also got $4.7 million from the National Research Council [Canada] to sponsor our Phase 1 trial.
So it helps. I'm grateful for what we got. We need a lot more.

And hopefully, with the success that we've had in getting into the clinic and working to demonstrate some good clinical data in the coming months and … with the Canadian government realizing that there are some supply challenges, that they'll realize the importance of having a Canadian supplier.

When we approached the government, we were two months behind Moderna.

- Brad Sorenson, CEO of Providence Therapeutics

And so just going back to that, because the proposal you submitted in the spring was a request for $35 million that was going to allow you to begin first-stage human trials, which is what you're now starting here in January/February. So had you received that, had the federal government supported you then, how much faster would you have been having this made-in-Canada solution?

When we approached the government, we were two months behind Moderna.

So if they had responded to you, where would you be right now?

If we would have had support, we could have advanced our program. I don't know if we would have advanced at the exact pace as Moderna. I mean, they got a billion dollars. We weren't asking for a billion dollars. But we wouldn't be talking about Phase 1 right now. We'd be talking about Phase 3 and rolling out vaccines to Canadians this summer.

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I know you're quite happy that you're starting this now and you're getting this rolling. But how frustrating is it for you that you could have been that solution so much earlier?

I am frustrated. You know, we've had a consistent message. We've said that they're going to experience challenges, supply challenges. We said, "If you thought getting PPE was difficult, wait 'til you're trying to deal with the vaccine." And we're seeing that now.

You can't expect the host nations, whether it's the European Union or the U.S., to spend billions and billions of dollars to fast-track a vaccine and then export that vaccine.
We've been saying we need to have our own capacity here in Canada from the beginning.