Which was the BEST copier ever?

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  • kingpd@businessprints.net
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Feb 2008
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    #121
    Originally posted by JOEYSULLIVAN
    Sbarro....I am in agreement with the Toshiba 1340/1370 pick (desktop class)

    I am AMAZED...Just how well engineered and designed this tiny, 55 pound, (13 copies per minute), ANALOG series(Toshiba1340/1350/1360/1370) runs. "Terminator" is the word that best describes this little beast. And the Toshiba 2060/2080 is the 20/28 CPM faster version and a bigger beast. I sold these brand new out of a crate...I became the Maytag man waiting for them to break. And 10+ years later, im still waiting for a service call.
    Me: "Hi, how can I help You" ....
    my customer:" Hi Joe, Im calling about our Toshiba (1340/1350/1360/1370/2060/2080 ..pick one)"
    Me: "AH.HAA!!! You need service right??
    My customer: " No, we just added our last TONER... Can you drop off a case when you have time.....No rush"
    Me to myselfl:"DOH!!"
    Now the question is HOW do you go from making outstanding machines .... and follow that up with the E studio series that is an insult to the word shit?

    I remember when I was in school working part time and our store had one in the office. It was a very nice machine. What was the differences between 1340/1350/1360/1370? Just a newer version?

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    • fallguy
      Technician
      • Sep 2010
      • 49

      #122
      The best copier I think is the Canon iR7095

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      • slybot
        Trusted Tech

        100+ Posts
        • Sep 2010
        • 165

        #123
        ok you will all hate me probably or go WTF? one of the best m/c i have come across was the minolta ep6000. a total POS brand new but the more it wore out the more reliable it became. i dont know, go figure. didnt say it was the best, but surprised me

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        • nilak
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Aug 2010
          • 72

          #124
          Originally posted by slybot
          ok you will all hate me probably or go WTF? one of the best m/c i have come across was the minolta ep6000. a total POS brand new but the more it wore out the more reliable it became. i dont know, go figure. didnt say it was the best, but surprised me
          minolta 6001 with non genuine toner,drum and custom made spacers could have ran as low as 0.11-0.13c/copy and very low service call rate. maybe not the best but still a very tough one.

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          • smcat38

            #125
            I have to agree with the Canon iR3300 series. A fraction of the issues we have had with the iRC3220.

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            • dvl327

              #126
              Canon IR600's, simply the best I've encountered. The Ricoh AF2027 was a neat little copier. Simply design, no frills.

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              • kingpd@businessprints.net
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                • Feb 2008
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                #127
                I too like the IR600.

                Originally posted by dvl327
                Canon IR600's, simply the best I've encountered. The Ricoh AF2027 was a neat little copier. Simply design, no frills.

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                • DAG COPIERS & COMPUTERS
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                  500+ Posts
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 860

                  #128
                  Hi Guyz..! This is an OLD THREAD started in 2005) rearing its ugly head again ? Hope we're not running out of ideas. I have scanned through the thread and everyone seems to favor a particular brand or model based on his experience with the machine. But I seem not to notice ONE important thing, and that is : WHAT PARAMETER(S) are being used to rate or "judge" the performance of these machines? Engine speed, ability to meet performance specification, system stability, availability of parts, brand name, or what?

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                  • kingpd@businessprints.net
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                    • Feb 2008
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                    #129
                    That's a good question DAG. I kind of pick the models I had luck with and secluded the ones that have made my life miserable, even though a good copier can do that too.

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                    • b003ace
                      Technician

                      50+ Posts
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 78

                      #130
                      How I rated my choice

                      Originally posted by DAG COPIERS & COMPUTERS
                      Hi Guyz..! This is an OLD THREAD started in 2005) rearing its ugly head again ? Hope we're not running out of ideas. I have scanned through the thread and everyone seems to favor a particular brand or model based on his experience with the machine. But I seem not to notice ONE important thing, and that is : WHAT PARAMETER(S) are being used to rate or "judge" the performance of these machines? Engine speed, ability to meet performance specification, system stability, availability of parts, brand name, or what?
                      I based my choice on which model I had to service the least, combined with which model made servicing easiest, i.e. the maximum number of prints between calls for the amount of repair / maintenance time required. I think many of the boxes that have been listed here are most likely very durable, reliable machines. Many I have no experience with. What amazes me is how few newer models make it into this thread, even as it continues to be bumped up.

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                      • kingpd@businessprints.net
                        Senior Tech

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                        • Feb 2008
                        • 921

                        #131
                        It seems to me most of the machines are going through a cycle of place them, use for a typical lease term then destroy them. A sort of throw-em away when done philosophy.

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                        • montana
                          Trusted Tech
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 392

                          #132
                          hi... i vote for konica 7040-7045

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                          • ddude
                            General Troublemaker

                            250+ Posts
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 473

                            #133
                            It's been mentioned quite a few times, and rightfully so--- The ROYAL 115 has to be the best in the history of machines through the ages.....

                            strong.
                            2000 mockingbirds = 2 kilomockingbirds

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                            • cccjjn
                              Technician

                              50+ Posts
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 81

                              #134
                              Been in the business for over 20 years and I'd have to say the Sharp 8100 was the alltime best copier. Nothing but steel inside these things. So long as you did drum, developer, corona wires and cleaning rollers every 40k they would run forever. We still had a number of them in the field running perfectly when Sharp pulled the plug on the parts supply for them.

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                              • luis8832
                                Trusted Tech

                                250+ Posts
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 250

                                #135
                                i must agree the kyocera 3035, 4035, 5035. those units don't die!

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