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  • BillyCarpenter
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    Dose of reality for Canada

    Bank of Canada says trade war will hurt Canada more than the United States

    The Bank of Canada’s governing council members think Canada’s economy will be hurt more by a protracted trade war than that of the United States, according to minutes released by the central bank on Wednesday.

    “GDP would be lower in both Canada and the United States, but the GDP loss would be significantly larger for Canada because Canada has a more open economy, and its exports are so concentrated with the United States,” the minutes said. “Governing Council members also noted that the adverse impact on the level of GDP would be permanent, and the growth of GDP would be reduced until the Canadian economy adjusts to the tariffs.”

    In late January, the Bank of Canada decided to cuts its policy rate by 25 basis points, bringing the rate down to three per cent. The decision was made in part to support economic growth, but it was also due to looming trade uncertainty with the U.S.

    “Members agreed that a 25 basis point cut would be helpful to support growth and better balance inflation risks,” the deliberations said. “Members also agreed that the threat of tariffs had increased uncertainty, and this would weigh on business confidence and investment intentions, as well as consumer sentiment.”

    The deliberations were from the weeks preceding Feb. 1, when U.S. President Donald Trump followed through on his threat and signed an executive order imposing a 25 per cent tariff on all Canadian goods and a 10 per cent tariff on Canadian energy. In response, Trudeau promised 25 per cent retaliatory tariffs on $155 billion worth of U.S. goods. A 30-day pause on the tariffs was secured on Feb. 3, after Trudeau promised to direct more resources to the Canada-U.S. border.

    In its monetary policy report released on Jan. 29, the central bank’s “benchmark calibration,” which assumes price changes in line with patterns observed with previous tariffs, a 25 per cent U.S. tariff on all imported goods and subsequent equal retaliation from trading partners would lead to a hit of 2.5 percentage points to Canada’s GDP at the end of the first year.

    Members discussed how the impacts of a trade conflict on Canada in the short-term would add significant pressure on incomes in Canada’s export sector and the Canadian dollar would depreciate further — although by what amount would depend on how much the market had already priced in tariffs.

    In the long-term, members discussed how a protracted trade war would require monetary policy to guard against any second round impacts from tariffs, including higher inflation expectations. They also discussed how monetary policy would have to take into account any fiscal responses Canadian governments might take and that they would have to “consider the downward pressure on inflation from weakness in the economy and weigh that against the upward pressure on inflation from higher input prices and supply chain disruptions.”

    Policymakers also discussed at length how trade uncertainty, even absent applied tariffs, had already lead companies to re-evaluate investment in Canada. Members of the governing council agreed this supported the case for a lower policy rate.

    “Members discussed recent survey results from the Business Leaders’ Pulse and anecdotal information that indicated that some businesses were considering shifting investment to the United States. This would likely lead to negative​
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  • BillyCarpenter
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    What some fail to recognize is that Trump is playing with house money. Canada can't win if Trump decides to play the long game with the tariffs.
    Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      Let me put this another way. The USA is the casino and Canada is a player at the blackjack table. Good luck.
      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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      • bsm2
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        #4
        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        What some fail to recognize is that Trump is playing with house money. Canada can't win if Trump decides to play the long game with the tariffs.
        Didn't all of Trump House Casinos file bankruptcy

        Yep that's a Fact Google it
        I'll wait

        Guess who pays the Trarrifs You Do
        Last edited by bsm2; 02-13-2025, 11:15 AM.

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        • bsm2
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          #5
          Here's your Dose of Really


          Bankruptcy expert studies Trump casinos


          A new study by a Temple professor shows Trump’s casinos in Atlantic City lost more jobs than their competitors, while also losing more money.


          Photography By:
          Joseph V. Labolito
          According to Lipson’s analysis, Trump’s casinos also lost more money than their competitors and went through more bankruptcies than any other major business in America.

          A new study by a Temple University professor shows that Donald Trump’s casinos in Atlantic City lost more jobs and money than competitors’ casinos, while also going through more bankruptcies than any other major business in America.


          Wow Bankruptcy

          Make America Suck Again

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          • bsm2
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            • Copier Addict
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              #7
              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
              Let me put this another way. The USA is the casino and Canada is a player at the blackjack table. Good luck.
              It's funny that you would use a casino analogy since that's one of the many businesses trumpy has managed to geniusly bankrupt.

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              • BillyCarpenter
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                #8
                Originally posted by Copier Addict

                It's funny that you would use a casino analogy since that's one of the many businesses trumpy has managed to geniusly bankrupt.
                I thought about after I posted it. 😀
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                • Copier Addict
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                  I thought about after I posted it. 😀
                  Oh, so you do admit trumpy's failures? Good to know. : 😃

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                  • BillyCarpenter
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                    Mark Carney has helped Brookfield avoid $5.3 billion taxes since 2021


                    Canadians lost an estimated $5.3 billion to Brookfield Asset Management’s tax avoidance in the time Mark Carney was at the company.

                    Between 2021 and 2024, Brookfield’s annual reports show they made $23.3 billion USD in income. At Canada’s corporate tax rate of 26.4%, they should have paid $6.1 billion in taxes.

                    But they only paid $2 billion – leaving a tax gap of $4.1 billion USD or $5.3 billion CAD.

                    This is the same calculation method used by the Toronto Star and Canadians for Tax Fairness for their reports on corporate tax avoidance.


                    One major entity, Brookfield Asset Management Ltd, has paid no taxes at all for three years.

                    Two days ago, CTV reported that most of Brookfield’s core operations - associated with $50 billion of their business - were registered in a Bermuda building housing a bike shop.

                    And CBC has reported that two funds personally chaired by Mark Carney were registered in Bermuda. Carney acknowledged these funds were registered in Bermuda for tax reasons.
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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                      Mark Carney has helped Brookfield avoid $5.3 billion taxes since 2021


                      Canadians lost an estimated $5.3 billion to Brookfield Asset Management’s tax avoidance in the time Mark Carney was at the company.

                      Between 2021 and 2024, Brookfield’s annual reports show they made $23.3 billion USD in income. At Canada’s corporate tax rate of 26.4%, they should have paid $6.1 billion in taxes.

                      But they only paid $2 billion – leaving a tax gap of $4.1 billion USD or $5.3 billion CAD.

                      This is the same calculation method used by the Toronto Star and Canadians for Tax Fairness for their reports on corporate tax avoidance.


                      One major entity, Brookfield Asset Management Ltd, has paid no taxes at all for three years.

                      Two days ago, CTV reported that most of Brookfield’s core operations - associated with $50 billion of their business - were registered in a Bermuda building housing a bike shop.

                      And CBC has reported that two funds personally chaired by Mark Carney were registered in Bermuda. Carney acknowledged these funds were registered in Bermuda for tax reasons.
                      Let the excuses begin, LOL
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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        #12
                        Mike Carney is for super rich and doesn't give a damn about the working man. Suckers.
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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          #13
                          Jobs moving south of the border? I don't want to hear that trade is moving away from the US again.





                          Honda considers moving some Mexico, Canada production to US due to tariffs: report


                          https://www.foxbusiness.com/fox-news...us-due-tariffs






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                          • Mako
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                            #14
                            Living in Canada has got to suck.

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                            • Copier Addict
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mako
                              Living in Canada has got to suck.
                              Only the proximity to magatrons part. The rest is great

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