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  • BillyCarpenter
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    The Art of the Deal

    Ukraine Says Rare Earths Deal with Trump in ‘Final Stages




    The government of Ukraine confirmed on Monday that it is in the “final stages” of an agreement on selling rare earth minerals to America, a deal President Donald Trump floated as a way for America to get a return on its investment in supporting Kyiv against Russian invasion.

    The announcement of the “final stages” of a deal, made by Minister of Justice Olha Stefanishyna, followed comments by President Volodymyr Zelensky in which he expressed hesitation about signing off significant rights to Ukraine’s plentiful rare earth minerals or in heavily indebting Ukrainians in the future. Zelensky’s remarks, after a turbulent week in which Trump disparaged Zelensky as a “dictator” and implied he should vacate the office, led many in international media to conclude that Ukraine would ultimately decline any such agreement with Washington.​


    “Ukrainian and U.S. teams are in the final stages of negotiations regarding the minerals agreement,” she wrote in a statement on social media. “The negotiations have been very constructive, with nearly all key details finalized. We are committed to completing this swiftly to proceed with its signature.”

    Ukraine is home to a bountiful supply of naturally occurring rare earth minerals and other minerals considered critical for modern industries. Among the most coveted are lithium, used to make batteries for mobile phones and laptops, and the critical nuclear energy product uranium. Ukraine is believed to be home to as much as five percent of the world’s known critical mineral reserves.


    This wealth has made Ukraine an attractive target for China. The Ukrainian government, prior to Zelensky being elected president, became a member of China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), a debt-trap scheme in which China offers poor countries predatory loans for alleged infrastructure projects. Zelensky has embraced the potential of Chinese investment in post-war Ukraine, inviting dictator Xi Jinping to talks and hoping “Chinese businesses” take an interest in reconstruction.



    A major American presence in the Ukrainian mineral industry would likely have a deterrent effect on Chinese investment there, which often brings with it malign Chinese government influence and propagation of communist ideology.

    President Trump had for many years enjoyed a positive relationship with Zelensky, particularly during his first term in office when the Ukrainian president steadfastly supported Trump against attempts by prominent Democrats to impeach him. Trump has been vocally critical of his predecessor Joe Biden’s Ukraine policy, however, condemning Biden’s decisions both to lift sanctions on Russia – which Zelensky loudly objected to and which immediately preceded the current invasion – and to funnel tens of billions of dollars into the war effort with no clear objective in sight.

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  • bsm2
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    The art of blackmail disgrace to extort anything in support for help to fight the Russians

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      How is it blackmail? I'm sure there were countries lined up to give them the same amount of money? No?
      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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      • Copier Addict
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        Don't you mean the art of taking advantage of an ally to please your handler in Russia? It really is looking more and more that trumpy is a Russian asset.

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        • bsm2
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          Disgrace

          Four years of hard work restored the world’s respect—only five weeks to lose it! 🤡🤡🤡🤡
          Last edited by bsm2; 02-25-2025, 11:33 AM.

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          • bsm2
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            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
            How is it blackmail? I'm sure there were countries lined up to give them the same amount of money? No?
            Who is going to keep Russia China and N Korea in check

            The United States of America
            You don't extort money or territory to help defend democracy.

            You certainly don't threaten your allies or Greenland or Panama that we're just going to take it too bad.

            It's a disgrace

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              Originally posted by Copier Addict
              Don't you mean the art of taking advantage of an ally to please your handler in Russia? It really is looking more and more that trumpy is a Russian asset.
              So, according to you, Trump is too stupid to collude with Russia but he's the greatest double agent ever? Take off your tinfoil hat, son.


              PS - Biden was a Mexican asset that got kickbacks from the Cartel.
              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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              • Copier Addict
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                #8
                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                So, according to you, Trump is too stupid to collude with Russia but he's the greatest double agent ever? Take off your tinfoil hat, son.


                PS - Biden was a Mexican asset that got kickbacks from the Cartel.
                Ummmmmmm, no. He is Putin"s useful idiot.

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                • richs
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                  Wow.It is almost like Billy thinks Trump is in charge.

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                  • BillyCarpenter
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                    Originally posted by richs
                    Wow.It is almost like Billy thinks Trump is in charge.
                    What up, richs? Is this similar to when you thought Dementia Joe was in charge?
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                    • Copier Addict
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                      What up, richs? Is this similar to when you thought Dementia Joe was in charge?
                      Not even close.
                      You see, Skippy, your big thing was that Biden was being controlled by Obama.
                      Now, trumpy IS really being controlled by the Kremlin. I can't think of any other explanation for his capitulation towards Putin.

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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        Originally posted by Copier Addict

                        Not even close.
                        You see, Skippy, your big thing was that Biden was being controlled by Obama.
                        Now, trumpy IS really being controlled by the Kremlin. I can't think of any other explanation for his capitulation towards Putin.
                        I never said Joe was controlled by Obama. I only know that someone was controlling a dementia patient. And you've been all over the place on Russia. Tinfoil hat,
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                        • bsm2
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                          • Copier Addict
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                            I never said Joe was controlled by Obama. I only know that someone was controlling a dementia patient. And you've been all over the place on Russia. Tinfoil hat,
                            If your critical thinking skills have diminished so bad that you can't see what trumpy is really up to, that's on you man.
                            Why else do you think he is making enemies out of your allies?
                            It because the Kremlin is telling him to.

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                            • BillyCarpenter
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Copier Addict

                              If your critical thinking skills have diminished so bad that you can't see what trumpy is really up to, that's on you man.
                              Why else do you think he is making enemies out of your allies?
                              It because the Kremlin is telling him to.
                              Russia invaded Ukraine under Dementia Joe and suddenly you expect the USA to pay for most of it. Let Canada pay more. I want every penny of our money back.
                              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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