Illegal Alien Terror Attack In Boulder Co.

[slimslob]

Mako, this guy's visa expired in March of this year, why was he not deported? Or is that somehow Bidens fault too?
How am I having it "both ways" ?

Guess what, his initial Visa expired on Feb. 2, 2023. Under the Biden Administration he was granted a two year extension in March 2023. Those whose Visas have expired are much harder to track especially when they don't wish to be found like when they are planning a terrorist attack. Something he had been planning for over a year.

[bsm2]

Guess what, his initial Visa expired on Feb. 2, 2023. Under the Biden Administration he was granted a two year extension in March 2023. Those whose Visas have expired are much harder to track especially when they don't wish to be found like when they are planning a terrorist attack. Something he had been planning for over a year.

Another Trump Administration failure

Who's incharge? Elon?

[mojorolla]

Are you saying you support Trump's efforts to deport these people? Simple yes or no.

It is a loaded question as you generally refer to "these people" as an entire race, nationality, or simply folks who do not think as you do. It is not a simple yes or no question, but I support legal deportation, not just because "the government said so" but because our laws were broken.

Now when it comes to revoking protections from folks already here just to deport them, no I do not support that. Deporting people exercising their 1st amendment rights, nope cannot support that either. Trump wants to deport people who helped us in Afghanistan for crying out loud; if anyone is deserving of a shot in America, it is these people. But we are going bring in a bunch of farmers from South Africa because of some fictional bullshit genocide while sending Afghan back to the Taliban, total stupidity.
Deporting student for free speech is one of the most un-American things I have ever seen. This entire Harvard bullshit is a joke, please tell me more how "Biden weaponized government". Being against the government of Israel is not the same as being antisemitic, no matter what this admin wants you to believe.

[mojorolla]

Guess what, his initial Visa expired on Feb. 2, 2023. Under the Biden Administration he was granted a two year extension in March 2023. Those whose Visas have expired are much harder to track especially when they don't wish to be found like when they are planning a terrorist attack. Something he had been planning for over a year.

So, they actually knew when his visa expired and still didn't catch it and yet it is STILL Bidens fault..brilliant.
So now the excuse is "it's too hard"......you mean like due process?

[slimslob]

bNow when it comes to revoking protections from folks already here just to deport them, no I do not support that. Deporting people exercising their 1st amendment rights, nope cannot support that either.

So I take it you would rather wait until they commit a major crime like rape and murder.

[bsm2]

So I take it you would rather wait until they commit a major crime like rape and murder.

Just admit it was a Trump Administration F UP

[slimslob]

So, they actually knew when his visa expired and still didn't catch it and yet it is STILL Bidens fault..brilliant.
So now the excuse is "it's too hard"......you mean like due process?

One man who does not belong to a group of illegals and does not want to be found. Where do you start looking. As far as Biden goes why wasn't he deported in February 2023 when his first Visa expired. He was gathering makings for his fire bombs for over a year. Most of if not all was under Biden's watch. Why was DHS and the FBI investigating those purchases?

[Mako]

It is a loaded question as you generally refer to "these people" as an entire race, nationality, or simply folks who do not think as you do. It is not a simple yes or no question, but I support legal deportation, not just because "the government said so" but because our laws were broken.

Now when it comes to revoking protections from folks already here just to deport them, no I do not support that. Deporting people exercising their 1st amendment rights, nope cannot support that either. Trump wants to deport people who helped us in Afghanistan for crying out loud; if anyone is deserving of a shot in America, it is these people. But we are going bring in a bunch of farmers from South Africa because of some fictional bullshit genocide while sending Afghan back to the Taliban, total stupidity.
Deporting student for free speech is one of the most un-American things I have ever seen. This entire Harvard bullshit is a joke, please tell me more how "Biden weaponized government". Being against the government of Israel is not the same as being antisemitic, no matter what this admin wants you to believe.

I support the deportation of every person illegally in this country or who entered illegally and was aided and abetted by the Biden Administration REGARDLESS OF THEIR RACE OR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN. We have illegals in our country from all over the globe thanks to the Biden Administration. They all have to go.

As for student visas, they are our guests here to get an education. As such they are expected to behave as good guests should. If a guest crosses the line and no longer acts like a good guest should by committing crimes, agitating on campus or being openly anti-Semitic, their visa should be immediately terminated and they should be returned back to where they came from. This stuff isn't rocket science. Its also not a 1st Amendment issue.

[mojorolla]

So I take it you would rather wait until they commit a major crime like rape and murder.

More fear mongering and right-wing BS. Just like they are eating the cats and dogs, some folks will believe anything. I rich kids rapes an unconscious girl behind a dumpster and its crickets from your side of the aisle. But if he were brown, you would be screaming at the top of your lung. The selective outrage is the height of hypocrisy.
American citizens commit the vast majority of crimes but yet my friends on the right only seem to care about crime when it is committed by immigrants. Party of law & order my ass.
There are thousands of rape victims in Texas being forced to carry a rapist's child to term; the majority of these rapes perpetrated by US citizens.

[slimslob]

More fear mongering and right-wing BS.

No fear mongering, just a statement of an observation.

Just like they are eating the cats and dogs,

Fact having spent a year deployed to Vietnam I know that there are certain Asian cultures for which cats and mostly dogs are a major protein source in their diet.

some folks will believe anything. I rich kids rapes an unconscious girl behind a dumpster and its crickets from your side of the aisle. But if he were brown, you would be screaming at the top of your lung. The selective outrage is the height of hypocrisy.

Here in California it is the Democrat Party that opposes date rape and trafficking laws.

American citizens commit the vast majority of crimes but yet my friends on the right only seem to care about crime when it is committed by immigrants. Party of law & order my ass.

For the vast majority of American citizens they are not terrorists.

There are thousands of rape victims in Texas being forced to carry a rapist's child to term; the majority of these rapes perpetrated by US citizens.

So you are an abortionist as well.

[mojorolla]

I support the deportation of every person illegally in this country or who entered illegally and was aided and abetted by the Biden Administration REGARDLESS OF THEIR RACE OR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN. We have illegals in our country from all over the globe thanks to the Biden Administration. They all have to go.

As for student visas, they are our guests here to get an education. As such they are expected to behave as good guests should. If a guest crosses the line and no longer acts like a good guest should by committing crimes, agitating on campus or being openly anti-Semitic, their visa should be immediately terminated and they should be returned back to where they came from. This stuff isn't rocket science. Its also not a 1st Amendment issue.

There are 500k who came here legally, been vetted, have sponsors, and even paid their own way to get here and Trump wants to deport them; why? Is this not what you wanted, legal immigration with vetting? These include people who supported our troops during the Afghan war who did everything the proper and legal way. They did everything right, except being white.

All persons in this country are guaranteed the same rights under the Constitution, regardless of if they have a visa or not. When you go to another country, those same laws protect you, there is not a "special" set of laws for visa holders or tourists. This is most definitely a free speech issues, clear as day.
Peacefully protesting, social media post or simple traffic violations are not valis reasons to deport students. These are a lot different than crimes. Bringing attention to the horrors being perpetrated in Gaza is not antisemitism, it is a critique of the policies of the government of Israel, not its people. By your standard, our critiques of Trump and Biden would be "anti-Americanism", would it not?

[mojorolla]

No fear mongering, just a statement of an observation. Fact having spent a year deployed to Vietnam I know that there are certain Asian cultures for which cats and mostly dogs are a major protein source in their diet. For the vast majority of American citizens they are not terrorists.

So you are an abortionist as well.

Great, show me the stats that lead to your "observation", the same observation Trump has been spewing for years. Very original.
Vietnam, what the fuck is this The Big Lebowski? Is your real name Walter by chance? Do you honestly believe Haitian immigrants were eating cats and dogs in Springfield Ohio?
I simply stated a fact, US citizens commit far more crime proportionally than immigrants.
I am Pro-Choice and if you want to use "abortionist" knock yourself out. Should we call you a "fetalist" as you don't give a rats ass about children after they are born?

[slimslob]

There are 500k who came here legally, been vetted, have sponsors, and even paid their own way to get here and Trump wants to deport them; why? Is this not what you wanted, legal immigration with vetting? These include people who supported our troops during the Afghan war who did everything the proper and legal way. They did everything right, except being white.

All persons in this country are guaranteed the same rights under the Constitution, regardless of if they have a visa or not. When you go to another country, those same laws protect you, there is not a "special" set of laws for visa holders or tourists. This is most definitely a free speech issues, clear as day.
Peacefully protesting, social media post or simple traffic violations are not valis reasons to deport students. These are a lot different than crimes. Bringing attention to the horrors being perpetrated in Gaza is not antisemitism, it is a critique of the policies of the government of Israel, not its people. By your standard, our critiques of Trump and Biden would be "anti-Americanism", would it not?

Constitution of the United States
The Preamble

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect
Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the
common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the
Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and
establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

That does not mention foreign citizens. The only rights that a foreign citizen has are those specified either in a Treaty with their country of origin or as an endorsement to their currently valid visa. Illegal aliens do not have a currently valid visa and if mentioned in a treaty, it is where they will be incarcerated. Ergo they have no Constitutional rights.

[bsm2]

That does not mention foreign citizens. The only rights that a foreign citizen has are those specified either in a Treaty with their country of origin or as an endorsement to their currently valid visa. Illegal aliens do not have a currently valid visa and if mentioned in a treaty, it is where they will be incarcerated. Ergo they have no Constitutional rights.

Yes they Do buddy
Indians had treaty too bucko

It's Disgusting the way Republicans treat women and children you should be ashamed of yourself
The F excuses you make are ridiculous and keep making them you can't pick and choose the part of the US Constitution you will break.

No worries buddy less than two years tick tock

[bsm2]

That does not mention foreign citizens. The only rights that a foreign citizen has are those specified either in a Treaty with their country of origin or as an endorsement to their currently valid visa. Illegal aliens do not have a currently valid visa and if mentioned in a treaty, it is where they will be incarcerated. Ergo they have no Constitutional rights.