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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    #91
    Originally posted by BBM

    Are these the same people who say that Bidens Afghanistan pull out was safe and successful .
    Overall, the USA's Afghanistan withdrawal was successul and got America out of it's longest war. This fulfilled President Biden's promise to end the war. An acccomplishment that Trump did not achieve in his first term as President.

    I acknowledge that 13 US servicemen were killed by an ISIS suicide bomber.

    How many more Marines would have been killed if the USA was still in Afghanistan?

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    • BBM
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      #92
      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy

      Overall, the USA's Afghanistan withdrawal was successul and got America out of it's longest war. This fulfilled President Biden's promise to end the war. An acccomplishment that Trump did not achieve in his first term as President.

      I acknowledge that 13 US servicemen were killed by an ISIS suicide bomber.

      How many more Marines would have been killed if the USA was still in Afghanistan?
      None . The last year in office for Trump 0 militery people died . He had negotiated a withdrawl plan that he would have did in a safe and timely matter so that billions of dollers worth of militery equipment woiuld not have been left there . Biden Afghanistan withdrawl was a complete embarrassment for this country .

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      • slimslob
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        #93
        Originally posted by mojorolla
        Israel started this, let them finish it.
        Totally wrong. A study of history proves that you are wrong. Let's just look at modern history. At the end of WWII England used some of its territory that was from Biblical history known to belong to the 12 tribes of Israel to create a homeland for the survivors of the Nazi holocaust. Many of the current occupants decided stay and live peacefully with the Jewish people. Others decided that they wanted to mitigate to Egypt. Egypt didn't want them and stopped them at what is now the border between Egypt and the Gaza Strip.

        Radical Islam wants the total annihilation of Israel and all Jewish people. Israel merely wants to live.

        Ever since Hamas came to power in Gaza, they have been launching rockets and mortars at populated areas of Israel. Hamas is funded and provided weapons by Iran.

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        • mojorolla
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          #94
          Originally posted by slimslob

          Totally wrong. A study of history proves that you are wrong. Let's just look at modern history. At the end of WWII England used some of its territory that was from Biblical history known to belong to the 12 tribes of Israel to create a homeland for the survivors of the Nazi holocaust. Many of the current occupants decided stay and live peacefully with the Jewish people. Others decided that they wanted to mitigate to Egypt. Egypt didn't want them and stopped them at what is now the border between Egypt and the Gaza Strip.

          Radical Islam wants the total annihilation of Israel and all Jewish people. Israel merely wants to live.

          Ever since Hamas came to power in Gaza, they have been launching rockets and mortars at populated areas of Israel. Hamas is funded and provided weapons by Iran.
          Israel chose to bomb Iran, that is just a fact, regardless of "biblical history". Biblical history is not factual history. These folks have been slaughtering each other over sand and science fiction for centuries, why are we getting involved? As to launching attacks on populated areas....take a look at what is left of Gaza. They kill woman and children at will but play the victim when it is them.

          Qatar funds Hamas and has done so for many years. $50 million a month to Palestine from Qatar just from 2018-2023 and the Israeli government was aware AND approved of it. 1.8 billion total from Qatar to Palestine, why not take military action is Qatar? The same folks giving away free airplanes are also funding terror but total crickets when it comes to Qatar.
          Pakistan has nukes and is a predominantly Muslim country, should we bomb them too. slim?



          Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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          • mojorolla
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            #95
            Originally posted by BBM

            None . The last year in office for Trump 0 militery people died . He had negotiated a withdrawl plan that he would have did in a safe and timely matter so that billions of dollers worth of militery equipment woiuld not have been left there . Biden Afghanistan withdrawl was a complete embarrassment for this country .
            60 Americans died during the 4 years of Trumps first term. The deal Trump signed in Feb of 2020 was for troops to leave by May of 2021, Biden delayed it until the end of August. The deal also included the release of 5,000 Taliban fighters. While I agree the withdrawal was a disaster, for a guy who claims to be a "deal maker", what a shit deal that was. And now Trump wants to deport Afghans who helped our troops during the war? If anyone deserves a shot at the "American Dream", would it not be these folks?



            Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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            • slimslob
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              #96
              Originally posted by mojorolla

              Israel chose to bomb Iran, that is just a fact, regardless of "biblical history". Biblical history is not factual history. These folks have been slaughtering each other over sand and science fiction for centuries, why are we getting involved? As to launching attacks on populated areas....take a look at what is left of Gaza. They kill woman and children at will but play the victim when it is them.

              Qatar funds Hamas and has done so for many years. $50 million a month to Palestine from Qatar just from 2018-2023 and the Israeli government was aware AND approved of it. 1.8 billion total from Qatar to Palestine, why not take military action is Qatar? The same folks giving away free airplanes are also funding terror but total crickets when it comes to Qatar.
              Pakistan has nukes and is a predominantly Muslim country, should we bomb them too. slim?


              You must be a Jew hater because the truth is Israel chose to defend itself. Not by firing missiles at Iranian citizens but by taking out Iranian military positions and leadership.

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              • mojorolla
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                #97
                Originally posted by slimslob

                You must be a Jew hater because the truth is Israel chose to defend itself. Not by firing missiles at Iranian citizens but by taking out Iranian military positions and leadership.
                And Israel has that right but, again, I ask you slim, why are we getting involved?
                Because I am critical of the Israeli government's actions, that makes me a "Jew hater"?
                Using the same logic, your criticism of Dems and Biden must mean you hate America.





                Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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                • Copier Addict
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by slimslob

                  Totally wrong. A study of history proves that you are wrong. Let's just look at modern history. At the end of WWII England used some of its territory that was from Biblical history known to belong to the 12 tribes of Israel to create a homeland for the survivors of the Nazi holocaust. Many of the current occupants decided stay and live peacefully with the Jewish people. Others decided that they wanted to mitigate to Egypt. Egypt didn't want them and stopped them at what is now the border between Egypt and the Gaza Strip.

                  Radical Islam wants the total annihilation of Israel and all Jewish people. Israel merely wants to live.

                  Ever since Hamas came to power in Gaza, they have been launching rockets and mortars at populated areas of Israel. Hamas is funded and provided weapons by Iran.
                  The term "biblical history" is an oxymoron.

                  Israel has never merely wanted to live. They have spent decades invading and illegally settling in Gaza. Israelis have repeatedly stated they want all Palestinians dead.
                  It's okay to be on the side of Israel, but to claim their innocence in this conflict is simply lying.

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                  • Mako
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                    #99
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                    • Copier Addict
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Mako
                      LMAO!!!!!! Another meme posted as if it's news.

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                      • slimslob
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                        #101
                        Originally posted by mojorolla

                        And Israel has that right but, again, I ask you slim, why are we getting involved?
                        Because Israel is our only true ally in the middle east. You support your allies.
                        Because I am critical of the Israeli government's actions, that makes me a "Jew hater"?
                        Very simple, you are opposed to Israel protecting its population.
                        Using the same logic, your criticism of Dems and Biden must mean you hate America.




                        Wrong again. It means I do not like leftist politics and the politicians who practices them.

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                        • Copier Addict
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                          #102
                          Originally posted by slimslob
                          Because Israel is our only true ally in the middle east. You support your allies. Very simple, you are opposed to Israel protecting its population.

                          Wrong again. It means I do not like leftist politics and the politicians who practices them.
                          How do you feel about your North American allies?

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                          • bsm2
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                            #103
                            Originally posted by Mako
                            Hilarious 😆 he belongs at McDonald's

                            Did you noticethe Hitler statue of course you did
                            Last edited by bsm2; 18 hours ago.

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                            • bsm2
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                              #104


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                              • SalesServiceGuy
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                                #105
                                Originally posted by BBM

                                None . The last year in office for Trump 0 militery people died . He had negotiated a withdrawl plan that he would have did in a safe and timely matter so that billions of dollers worth of militery equipment woiuld not have been left there . Biden Afghanistan withdrawl was a complete embarrassment for this country .
                                ... Trump said words but nothing happened. President Biden had to finish the job.

                                During Trump’s presidency, which ran from January 20, 2017, to January 20, 2021, there were 45 combat deaths among U.S. service members reported in Afghanistan, as well as 18 “non-hostile” deaths, according to the Defense Casualty Analysis System.

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