Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

Just to highlight the deadbeat that are the Canadians. NATO is made up of 30 countries. Canada ranks 25th in military spending....and the list if full of other deadbeat countries.

Canada doesn't take its national security seriously and neither should we. We should start charging them. Trump 2024.

NATO: Which countries pay their share on defence?

The alliance has released its latest estimates showing which nations meet the 2% of GDP guideline spend on defence.



he number of NATO nations meeting or exceeding the alliance's target of spending 2% of their gross domestic product (GDP) on defence has decreased, according to the latest official estimates.


The UK, one of 10 nations believed to be hitting the target, is fourth in the list of proportional spending.


A real change annual estimate of 4.1% spending within the military alliance has seen members contributing 0.6% more than last year.






The 2020 estimates, released in March, suggested there had been a UK defence spending boost in 2019 from 2.1% to 2.32%.


Notably, the data shows the United States has fallen behind Greece in proportional spending, contributing 3.52% of GDP compared to Greece's 3.82%.


Croatia is in third place with 2.79%, while Estonia (2.28%), Latvia (2.27%), Poland (2.1%), Lithuania (2.03%), Romania (2.02%) and France (2.01%) also make up the 10 nations meeting NATO's proportional 2% target.

Canada sits at 25th on the list, spending 1.39% of its GDP on defence.
NATO's Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg has called on defence spending to increase within the alliance.
This week, a summit in Brussels will see leaders discuss issues such as Russia, China and climate change.
The increase in 2021 is estimated at 4.1% in real terms, compared to 3.7% in 2019 and 3.5% in 2020.

[bsm2]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

Just to highlight the deadbeat that are the Canadians. NATO is made up of 30 countries. Canada ranks 25th in military spending....and the list if full of other deadbeat countries.

Canada doesn't take its national security seriously and neither should we. We should start charging them. Trump for Prison 2024.

Yep as soon as Mississippi does
7.25per hour wages STILL just embarrassing

Number 3 in sucking up Federal Funds

[Copier Addict]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

Just to highlight the deadbeat that are the Canadians. NATO is made up of 30 countries. Canada ranks 25th in military spending....and the list if full of other deadbeat countries.

Canada doesn't take its national security seriously and neither should we. We should start charging them. Trump 2024.

Your inability to admit when you are wrong makes everything you say a complete joke. You have zero credibility. Go peddle your fake outrage somewhere else. I don't waste my time on cowards. And you are a top of the line coward.

[slimslob]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

I'm just tired of having to do your research for you. Do better dude!!

If there is a deadline of 2025, that means by 2025 members are to meet that percentage. I really REALLY shouldn't have to explain that to you. If you're trying to prove that you are smarter, you certainly are going about it kinda backwards.

Bring on more right wing signature insults

The 2% NATO guideline has been there for decades. Apparently you are the one who has not done your research.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

I gave you an opportunity to prove you aren't a coward. .

That's rich. A Canadian giving an American a chance to prove his bravery.


Not only is Canada a deadbeat nation, they show total disrespect to the USA. Without us, they wouldn't last 5 minutes.

[Copier Addict]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

That's rich. A Canadian giving an American a chance to prove his bravery.


Not only is Canada a deadbeat nation, they show total disrespect to the USA. Without us, they wouldn't last 5 minutes.

Awwwwww. Did I hurt the cowards feelings? Buck up dude. You still have a chance to prove you aren't one.

[slimslob]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

There you go. You really showed some originality on that one. You not only attacked me, you attacked my family. Well done.

It's a sign of low intelligence when one refuses to admit when one is wrong. All you have to say is, "Yes, you are correct, all NATO countries have until 2025 to meet the 2% agreement". Can you do that Billy?

Share of real GDP (%) 2013 through 2019(2019 is estimated)

Canada 0.99 1.01 1.20 1.16 1.44 1.31 1.31

Looks like Canada is going backwards.

The following Countries are picking up the slack. THey are the only ones who stayed above the 2% target rate.

Greece 2.21 2.21 2.30 2.38 2.34 2.48 2.28
United Kingdom 2.26 2.16 2.05 2.11 2.11 2.13 2.14
United States 4.03 3.73 3.52 3.52 3.31 3.30 3.42

Source document NATO press release "Defence Expenditure of NATO Countries (2013-2019)"

NATO20191129_pr-2019-123-en.pdf

I guess I did my research a lot better than you ever have.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

Share of real GDP (%) 2013 through 2019(2019 is estimated)

Canada 0.99 1.01 1.20 1.16 1.44 1.31 1.31

Looks like Canada is going backwards.

The following Countries are picking up the slack. THey are the only ones who stayed above the 2% target rate.

Greece 2.21 2.21 2.30 2.38 2.34 2.48 2.28
United Kingdom 2.26 2.16 2.05 2.11 2.11 2.13 2.14
United States 4.03 3.73 3.52 3.52 3.31 3.30 3.42

Source document NATO press release "Defence Expenditure of NATO Countries (2013-2019)"

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I guess I did my research a lot better than you ever have.

Thanks for the research, slim. Unfortunately, copier addict doesn't care about facts...he just likes to argue.


The reason that liberalism doesn't work is because they don't live in the real world. They hate guns but there's a reason that we have the 2nd amendment and it's not there for hunting. It could very well be us one day that's being invaded.

Putin is acting very strange. I wouldn't be surprised if he drops a nuke.

[bsm2]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

NUTS Case
Don't worry the TRUMPo will protect you

NATO more united now than in 40 years
Thanks to the Biden leadership


We're are the Republicans calling Putin Smart. Sancations don't work. Most of the FREE world is againt but not the Republicans.



Go hide in your bomb shelter

[Copier Addict]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

Thanks for the research, slim. Unfortunately, copier addict doesn't care about facts...he just likes to argue.


The reason that liberalism doesn't work is because they don't live in the real world. They hate guns but there's a reason that we have the 2nd amendment and it's not there for hunting. It could very well be us one day that's being invaded.

Putin is acting very strange. I wouldn't be surprised if he drops a nuke.

During the 2014 summit, all NATO members agreed to spend 2% of their GDPs on defense by 2025.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

During the 2014 summit, all NATO members agreed to spend 2% of their GDPs on defense by 2025.

Canada has ripped us off for decades. Fuck 2025. Do it now. Why wait? Are you broke from all the liberal handouts?

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

Trump Vindicated: Germany to FINALLY Pay NATO Spending Requirements





Germany has lifted its ban on selling weapons to Ukraine and has committed to finally meet its NATO defence spending requirements after the Russian invasion, in a move vindicating long-standing criticism from former President Donald Trump.
After years of delinquency to meet its NATO obligations, Germany, the economic powerhouse of Europe has finally committed to spending at least 2 per cent of its GDP on defence spending.



Speaking before the Bundestag on Saturday, Chancellor Olof Scholz said: “From now on, more than 2 per cent of our GDP will be invested in our defence,” announcing that the German government will commit an additional €100 billion in this year’s budget towards the German military, the Bundeswehr.


While Germany has increased its defence spending over recent years, it has consistently failed to reach the NATO threshold, spending just 1.53 per cent on defence last year, according to NATO figures.


The state of the German armed forces was lambasted last week by the chief of the army, Alfons Mais who wrote that “the army that I am allowed to lead, is more or less bare.”


“The policy options we can offer in support of the Alliance are extremely limited. We all saw it coming and were unable to get our arguments through to draw and implement the conclusions of the Crimean annexation. That doesn’t feel good! I’m [disturbed]!” the army chief continued.



Germany has long been criticised for its failure to meet its NATO obligations while at the same time shipping billions to Russia in exchange for natural gas.


In July of 2018, President Trump said: “It is very sad when Germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with Russia, where we’re supposed to be guarding against Russia, and Germany goes and pays out billions and billions of dollars a year to Russia. We’re protecting Germany, we’re protecting France, we’re protecting all of these countries.”


“We’re paying a lot of money to protect, this has been going on for decades… it’s very unfair to our country, it’s very unfair to our taxpayers… these countries need to step it up, not over a ten year period, but immediately.”


The President also commented that because of a reliance on Russian gas, Germany had become “captive” to Putin’s regime. After years of controversy, the German government finally decided to block the opening of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline last week.


In an exclusive 2018 interview with Breitbart London, then-American Ambassador to Germany, Richard Grenell described Germany’s commitment to NATO as “woeful”, saying: “Germany is the largest economy in Europe. They made a commitment to NATO, and they should be serious about that commitment; it is a multilateral institution that guarantees the allies, guaranteeing freedom.”

On top of Germany belatedly meeting its defence requirements, Germany also reversed its long-standing prohibition on sending or selling weapons to conflict zones. Chancellor Scholz said that Germany would be shipping 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 surface-to-air missiles in the coming days.


The German government has also lifted the ban on Estonia and the Netherlands from shipping German-made munitions to Ukraine, after previously blocking the shipments.


Last week, Germany was ridiculed over the much-maligned package of 5,000 helmets, which only arrived two days after Vladimir Putin launched an invasion of Ukraine. When the aid was announced in January, Kyiv mayor and former boxing champ Vitali Klitschko mockingly said: “What kind of support will Germany send next? Pillows?”


Commenting on the about-face from his government, Scholz told the German parliament: “We need to support Ukraine in its hour of desperate need,” adding: “There was no other response possible to Putin’s aggression.”


The increase in support was welcomed by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky who responded: “Keep it up, Chancellor Olaf Scholz! Anti-war coalition in action!

[slimslob]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

During the 2014 summit, all NATO members agreed to spend 2% of their GDPs on defense by 2025.

Canada has had since day 1 as a member of NATO to reach the 2% level. Are you saying that Canada's economy worse than Greece's? Greece has been above the 2% level for years. Being a Canadian must really suck or is it your political leadership that sucks.

[Copier Addict]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

Canada has had since day 1 as a member of NATO to reach the 2% level. Are you saying that Canada's economy worse than Greece's? Greece has been above the 2% level for years. Being a Canadian must really suck or is it your political leadership that sucks.

Are you guys nuts? All I am saying is that no country is in arrears until 2025. So go away with all your fake indignation.

We all know that you hate Canada. We don't care. It makes us happy that you hate Canada as it likely means you will never come here. So, thank you for hating Canada so much.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Freeloading countries: Germany, Canada, ect.

Are you guys nuts? All I am saying is that no country is in arrears until 2025. So go away with all your fake indignation.

We all know that you hate Canada. We don't care. It makes us happy that you hate Canada as it likely means you will never come here. So, thank you for hating Canada so much.

Let's think about this honestly. Are you capable of being honest?


Can Canada protect itself from invasion? The answer is a resounding no!

What kind of country neglects it's most important duty....protecting it's people?

None of that other stuff that you cherish means anything if you can't protect it.