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  • slimslob
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    Unsanctioned Russians shopped US land with Hunter Biden, dined with Joe

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    • copiertec
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      Why are our so-called leaders so hell-bent on proliferating death and destruction when the very same effort could be put into improving life and wellness? Unfortunately, it answers itself.. death and destruction are a business model for the corporatist US empire. Weapons manufacturers and other war profiteers such as Lockheed Martin and Raytheon, with whom current Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin was once a board member of, are making a killing in profits in the killing business. thefreethoughtproject.com

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      • Copier Addict
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        #588
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        Originally posted by copiertec
        Why are our so-called leaders so hell-bent on proliferating death and destruction when the very same effort could be put into improving life and wellness? Unfortunately, it answers itself.. death and destruction are a business model for the corporatist US empire. Weapons manufacturers and other war profiteers such as Lockheed Martin and Raytheon, with whom current Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin was once a board member of, are making a killing in profits in the killing business. thefreethoughtproject.com
        Is your solution to just let Putin have Ukraine? If it is, that's a horrible solution. War is a terrible thing and should be avoided if possible but, this was not a mutual war. Russia invaded Ukraine. How much "death and destruction" as been stopped by helping Ukraine defend itself? Do you honestly believe Putin would have been happy just with Ukraine? Nope, he would have kept going into other sovereign countries and caused more death and destruction.

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        • Blizzoo
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          'The world is a reflection of ourselves. It is what we allow it to be. And what we allow it to be, we are. If we wish the world to be more peaceful then we must be more peaceful. If we wish for the world to be more kind and loving then we must be more kind and loving. Whatever we wish for the world to be we must project it ourselves outwardly and manifest it into existence. We must be the change we wish to see in the world.'
          Defects are simple, our mind is complicated

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          • slimslob
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            Zelensky Responds to Claims That Ukraine Sabotaged Nord Stream Pipeline - Truth Press

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            • SalesServiceGuy
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              ICC issues arrest warrant for Putin and Russian official tied to alleged deportation of Ukrainian children


              The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Russian President Vladimir Putin and Maria Lvova-Belova, a member of Putin's government, it announced in a news release Friday.

              Lvova-Belova is the official at the center of the alleged scheme to forcibly deport thousands of Ukrainian children to Russia.

              The ICC said both Putin and Lvova-Belova are “allegedly responsible for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation."

              Some key background: According to the US and several European governments, Putin's administration has carried out a scheme to forcibly deport thousands of Ukrainian children to Russia, often to a network of dozens of camps, where the minors undergo political reeducation.

              “Lvova-Belova’s efforts specifically include the forced adoption of Ukrainian children into Russian families, the so-called ‘patriotic education’ of Ukrainian children, legislative changes to expedite the provision of Russian Federation citizenship to Ukrainian children, and the deliberate removal of Ukrainian children by Russia’s forces,” the US Treasury said in September.

              Her government title is commissioner for children’s rights in the Office of the Russian President.
              The ICC statement Friday said there are "reasonable grounds to believe that Mr Putin bears individual criminal responsibility for the aforementioned crimes," both for having committed the acts directly or through others in his command, and for "his failure to exercise control properly over civilian and military subordinates."

              Russia has characterized reports of forcible relocation as “absurd” and said it does its “best” to keep minors with their families.

              The ICC announcement comes just days after several US news outlets reported the court was planning to open two war crimes cases tied to the invasion of Ukraine and issue arrest warrants against “several people." According to the New York Times, the ICC was set to first open a case on Russia’s alleged abduction of Ukrainian children. Then a second case would focus on Moscow “unrelentingly” targeting civilian infrastructure, including water supplies and gas tanks.

              The cases would represent the first international charges to be brought since the start of Russia’s war and come after months of work by special ICC investigation teams, according to the NYT.

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              • slimslob
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                Putin Visits Mariupol, Second Stop in Tour of Occupied Ukraine - Truth Press

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                • SalesServiceGuy
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                  ‘I want to live’: the Ukraine hotline encouraging Russians to surrender


                  It is claimed 6,543 Russian personnel have surrendered since the hotline launched in September 2022


                  More than 6,500 Russian military personnel have sought to surrender through a bespoke “I want to live” hotline, Ukraine’s government has claimed, with the call centre said to have been recently moved to a secret location to avoid Moscow interference.

                  Vitaly Matvienko, spokesperson at the department for prisoners of war, said those who had made contact through the service had been verified as serving in the Russian forces using their personal data and service number.

                  Between 15 September, when the hotline launched, and 20 January, it is claimed that 6,543 Russian personnel contacted the Ukrainian government to surrender themselves into their custody, often from the frontline.
                  The hotline, fielded by 10 operators, had been established following Vladimir Putin’s announcement of a mobilisation of 300,000 civilians with previous military experience to join the Russian war effort.

                  Matvienko declined to comment on the number of completed surrenders but described the service, which is staffed 24/7, as “totally successful”, with between 50 and 100 calls and messages to the service’s Telegram channel being received every day.

                  The call centre was moved a month ago from the department’s Kyiv offices to a secret location due to fear of it being targeted by Russian attacks, he said.

                  The propaganda value is clear for Ukraine’s government, with 2 million people having visited the I want to live website in December alone, of which 1.6 million were in Russia.

                  Those who have handed themselves in are offered the opportunity to be part of prisoner swaps arranged between the Russian and Ukrainian governments or to stay in custody with the potential to remain in Ukraine later or to emigrate.

                  A total of 1,646 Ukrainian personnel have been released by the Russian government as part of such swaps, Matvienko said. The most recent deal was completed on 8 January when 50 personnel on each side were exchanged, with negotiations on others continuing.

                  Matvienko said there were two stages to surrendering. “The first stage is Russian soldiers who are mobilised, partly mobilised, not mobilised yet, call to this hotline to this chatbot and say: ‘I’m going to surrender,’” he said. “After that he is obligated to leave his personal data. After the soldier reaches Ukrainian territory, it’s obligated for him to call again and say, ‘I’m going to surrender’ and Ukrainian operators help him to reach a safe place where he meets Ukrainian special forces.”



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                  • slimslob
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                    Pentagon will expedite delivery of tanks, Patriot systems to Ukraine | The Hill

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                    • copiertec
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                      • SalesServiceGuy
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                        #596
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                        Originally posted by copiertec
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                        ... because your tax dollars are at work preserving democracy while degrading the Russian miitary at no cost in American lives.

                        ... an actual shooting war involving US soldiers would cost many times more.

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          #597
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                          Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                          ... because your tax dollars are at work preserving democracy while degrading the Russian miitary at no cost in American lives.

                          ... an actual shooting war involving US soldiers would cost many times more.
                          Unfortunately, when it comes to war, the best of intentions usually don't pan out the way it was intended. We're dealing with a very unpredictable Putin and he doesn't strike me as the type of guy that will lose and go away quietly. All the chips are in the middle of the table. Do I trust Biden to play the right cards? Hell no. Do you?
                          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                          • bsm2
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                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                            Unfortunately, when it comes to war, the best of intentions usually don't pan out the way it was intended. We're dealing with a very unpredictable Putin and he doesn't strike me as the type of guy that will lose and go away quietly. All the chips are in the middle of the table. Do I trust Biden to play the right cards? Hell no. Do you?
                            As long as the stuck up Republicans don't cut the funding killing Russians is great for the US

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                            • Tricky
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                              #599
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                              Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                              ... because your tax dollars are at work preserving democracy while degrading the Russian miitary at no cost in American lives.
                              Sending bullets does nothing for a democracy.

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                              • Copier Addict
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                                Originally posted by skynet
                                Sending bullets does nothing for a democracy.

                                It's a good thing people didn't think like this in 1939. Otherwise Britain would have been very lonely.

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