$5.00 per gallon gas

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

The problem comes back to taxing businesses, as I stated they don't pay the tax but merely pass it on to their customers. The balanced budget amendment, repealing the 16th and instituting a national sales tax will get around that, get around any form of income sheltering and force everyone to have some skin in the game, and force the federal government to live on a budget. The sales tax rate would have to be fixed in the same amendment that allows it and repeals the 16th to prevent it from constantly being increased, but I think most people, and therefore the states they live in would get behind that, so even if the house and senate don't want to move on the idea an Article 5 convention could get it done without them.

That's not gonna work because it makes too much sense. Plus, who's gonna pay for all the freeloaders that are gaming the system?

[davidmtupper]

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That's not a bug, that's a feature

[slimslob]

Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

The problem comes back to taxing businesses, as I stated they don't pay the tax but merely pass it on to their customers. The balanced budget amendment, repealing the 16th and instituting a national sales tax will get around that, get around any form of income sheltering and force everyone to have some skin in the game, and force the federal government to live on a budget. The sales tax rate would have to be fixed in the same amendment that allows it and repeals the 16th to prevent it from constantly being increased, but I think most people, and therefore the states they live in would get behind that, so even if the house and senate don't want to move on the idea an Article 5 convention could get it done without them.

Unless a balanced budget amendment will do absolutely nothing unless it includes limits total federal spending to a percentage of the average of the GDP over the 5 previous years. Initially starting at 20% and decreasing over 10 years to 12%. Otherwise the liberals will just use the amendment as an excuse to increase taxes and not reduce spending.

[davidmtupper]

Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

I like it. I also like limiting the tax rate with an amendment, thus making it much harder to change and forcing the budget to not grow as much as it does. If the federal government is kept under control the GDP will most likely grow, and since tax revenue has generally been a constant percentage of the GDP that might allow for more government, might not. Maybe better would be to force every government agency submit a new budget request starting from zero every year rather than taking the previous year and adding a certain percentage as they do now.

We also need to evaluate every government agency against the constitution to see where in that document they are authorized (most aren't, under a strict reading) and get rid of those that fail that test. Of those few that remain they need to be evaluated as to their performance against their intended goals, and those that fail there given maybe 3 years to shape up or be terminated. Doing this would make it much easier to balance the budget as well.

[slimslob]

Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

I like it. I also like limiting the tax rate with an amendment, thus making it much harder to change and forcing the budget to not grow as much as it does. If the federal government is kept under control the GDP will most likely grow, and since tax revenue has generally been a constant percentage of the GDP that might allow for more government, might not. Maybe better would be to force every government agency submit a new budget request starting from zero every year rather than taking the previous year and adding a certain percentage as they do now.

We also need to evaluate every government agency against the constitution to see where in that document they are authorized (most aren't, under a strict reading) and get rid of those that fail that test. Of those few that remain they need to be evaluated as to their performance against their intended goals, and those that fail there given maybe 3 years to shape up or be terminated. Doing this would make it much easier to balance the budget as well.

And no more continuing resolutions. Either they pass an actual budget or they shut most of the government down. Start with Congressional pay, medical plans and power to offices. Also no other legislation can be considered until a budget is passed. The only things that do get funded are Military pay (but not Pentagon civilians), FAA, NTSA plus other safety services, emergency relief and senior citizen benefits. Also ban all contact between elected officials and lobbyists.

[BillyCarpenter]

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You guys do realize that there's almost zero chance to implement a balanced budget or a flat tax or anything along those lines.

Here's the cold hard truth. Liberalism is winning. And ultimately the USA will be another Britian or Canada. In other words, we will be become mediocre like both of those countries and eventually things will start to fall apart like we're seeing in Canada.

Moreover, the USA is the last superpower and that, too, will vanish once conservatism is defeated. And we will be defeated. It's only after liberalism has failed will we get back to what made this country great. If we're lucky.

[bsm2]

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That's not gonna work because it makes too much sense. Plus, who's gonna pay for all the freeloaders that are gaming the system?

Like the State of Mississippi that doesn't pay its fair share receiving Millions of dollars in Federal Aid every month.

[D_L_P]

Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

Like the State of Mississippi that doesn't pay its fair share receiving Millions of dollars in Federal Aid every month.

Plus the many other red states freeloading off blue states.

Mississippi is a good example of straining out a gnat but swallowing the camel. People worry about some single mothers getting $250 per month, while at the same time voting for corrupt gov's that are stealing millions.
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[BillyCarpenter]

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Plus the many other red states freeloading off blue states.

Mississippi is a good example of straining out a gnat but swallowing the camel. People worry about some single mothers getting $250 per month, while at the same time voting for corrupt gov's that are stealing millions.
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You need to worry about yourself first. How much do you pay in taxes? I'm guessing you don't make a lot of money.

[Copier Addict]

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More BS that adds absolutely nothing to the discussion.


When democrats say "fair", what they mean is that business owners are gonna take a bath in order for liberals to give another handout.

Equity = fair. Fair is a subjective word. copier addict and DLP have yet to grasp that concept as to the context of the word "equity" when a democrat uses it.

I don't know how you can dispute the FACT that it actually is an excerpt from the article I posted. It's quite obvious you didn't bother to even look at the article, so mind your own business!

[slimslob]

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[bsm2]

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You need to worry about yourself first. How much do you pay in taxes? I'm guessing you don't make a lot of money.

Guess you rate people on how much they pay in TAXES

Than Trumps a ZERO

Probably pays more then TRUMP the guy who WON'T release his Tax returns. STILL

The guy who takes the 5th over 450 times.

The guy who's cheats his own charity and was forced to close it.

The guy who cheated thousands from his Fake Trump University school and was forced to provide 25 million to repay his cheated students.
SCUMBAG

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

Guess you rate people on how much they pay in TAXES

Than Trumps a ZERO

Probably pays more then TRUMP the guy who WON'T release his Tax returns. STILL

The guy who takes the 5th over 450 times.

The guy who's cheats his own charity and was forced to close it.

The guy who cheated thousands from his Fake Trump University school and was forced to provide 25 million to repay his cheated students.
SCUMBAG

You and the other destitute amigos are always the ones crying to raise taxes on the rich and all of you take more money from the government than you pay in. Worry about paying your fair share and take your hand out of other's pocket.

[bsm2]

Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

You and the other destitute amigos are always the ones crying to raise taxes on the rich and all of you take more money from the government than you pay in. Worry about paying your fair share and take your hand out of other's pocket.

Wow Mississippi is the King of handout states sucking up Federal Dollars everyday just like YOU

[BillyCarpenter]

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Wow Mississippi is the King of handout states sucking up Federal Dollars everyday just like YOU

Again, you and the other amigos are beggers. You take more out of the system than you pay in. Naturally, you want the rich to pay more because that means you can siphon more off the government tit.

Unlike you beggers, I pay more in than I take out. I'm the guy that pays for your government handouts.