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  • Copier Addict
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    #16
    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

    You're ignoring the facts.


    The study found that transgender individuals who had received a diagnosis of gender incongruence were:

    six times more likely to have a mood or anxiety disorder than the general population.
    three times as likely to be prescribed antidepressants and antianxiety medications.
    more than six times as likely to attempt suicide resulting in hospitalization.
    The study also found that transgender individuals who had undergone gender-affirming surgery were significantly less likely to seek mental health treatment for depression and anxiety disorders as a function of years since the procedure.
    Don't forget they are also the most hated, ostracised, ridiculed and attacked members of society. That's bound to affect their mental health.

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      #17
      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

      You're ignoring the facts.


      The study found that transgender individuals who had received a diagnosis of gender incongruence were:

      six times more likely to have a mood or anxiety disorder than the general population.
      three times as likely to be prescribed antidepressants and antianxiety medications.
      more than six times as likely to attempt suicide resulting in hospitalization.
      The study also found that transgender individuals who had undergone gender-affirming surgery were significantly less likely to seek mental health treatment for depression and anxiety disorders as a function of years since the procedure.
      What study? and who was it conducted by? What facts? Again, your logic is downing in authoritarian/ socialistic ideology, last I checked anyone who passes a good background check can posses a firearm, it's a constitutional right and you're trying to change that right based on a study. There are many studies out there but you can't take away constitutional rights based on studies and opinions. Here is a study that shows gun violence rises when people drink alcohol while using guns...does that mean we don't sell guns to you because a person consumes alcohol? I have to be honest with you that may eliminate most gun sales all because of a study.

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      • BillyCarpenter
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        #18
        Originally posted by copiertec

        What study? and who was it conducted by? What facts? Again, your logic is downing in authoritarian/ socialistic ideology, last I checked anyone who passes a good background check can posses a firearm, it's a constitutional right and you're trying to change that right based on a study. There are many studies out there but you can't take away constitutional rights based on studies and opinions. Here is a study that shows gun violence rises when people drink alcohol while using guns...does that mean we don't sell guns to you because a person consumes alcohol? I have to be honest with you that may eliminate most gun sales all because of a study.
        https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2023/ne...r-gun-violence
        Believe what you will. In my opinion, Transgenderism is a mental disorder. You're playing with fire. And maybe we shouldn't sell a firearm to an alcoholic.
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          #19
          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

          Believe what you will. In my opinion, Transgenderism is a mental disorder. You're playing with fire. And maybe we shouldn't sell a firearm to an alcoholic.
          In every sane person's opinion, magaism is a mental disorder. They believe obvious lies. They worship a felon paedophile. They have zero critical thinking skills. Perhaps they should all lose the right to operate motor vehicles.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Copier Addict

            In every sane person's opinion, magaism is a mental disorder. They believe obvious lies. They worship a felon paedophile. They have zero critical thinking skills. Perhaps they should all lose the right to operate motor vehicles.

            So, you support an alcoholic's right to bear arms? Yes or no? Or what about mental illness? Yes or no?
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              #21
              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter


              So, you support an alcoholic's right to bear arms? Yes or no? Or what about mental illness? Yes or no?
              Do you support a convicted felon's right to be president? Take off your partisan hat, and think critically. Yes or no!

              If an alcoholic has been convicted of being drunk and brandishing a firearm, their 2nd amendment rights should be revoked. Same with mental illness.

              Now, answer my question

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              • BillyCarpenter
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                #22
                Originally posted by Copier Addict

                Do you support a convicted felon's right to be president? Take off your partisan hat, and think critically. Yes or no!

                If an alcoholic has been convicted of being drunk and brandishing a firearm, their 2nd amendment rights should be revoked. Same with mental illness.

                Now, answer my question
                Not so fast buddy. So, basically you're saying a retarded person must be caught brandishing a firearm before it's revoked?

                Or what about the alcoholic with 3 DUI's that has been involved in a crash that left someone crippled?
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                  Not so fast buddy. So, basically you're saying a retarded person must be caught brandishing a firearm before it's revoked?

                  Or what about the alcoholic with 3 DUI's that has been involved in a crash that left someone crippled?
                  Sorry, son, just because you don't like my answer doesn't mean you get a free pass on answering my question.

                  We weren't talking about a retarded(your word, not mine) person. You asked about a person with a mental illness.

                  A drunk person should have their right to operate a motor vehicle revoked if they are involved in a crash that left someone crippled.

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                  • BillyCarpenter
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Copier Addict

                    Sorry, son, just because you don't like my answer doesn't mean you get a free pass on answering my question.

                    We weren't talking about a retarded(your word, not mine) person. You asked about a person with a mental illness.

                    A drunk person should have their right to operate a motor vehicle revoked if they are involved in a crash that left someone crippled.
                    So, we've established that guns can be taken away for alcohol use and certain mental conditions. I stand by transgenders being a very high risk group. At least flag 'em.
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                      So, we've established that guns can be taken away for alcohol use and certain mental conditions. I stand by transgenders being a very high risk group. At least flag 'em.
                      Where do you stand on convicted felons being president?

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                        So, we've established that guns can be taken away for alcohol use and certain mental conditions. I stand by transgenders being a very high risk group. At least flag 'em.
                        What percentage of mass shooters do you believe identity as transgender?

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                          #27
                          ""Mass shootings by transgender people continue to be extremely rare," Jaclyn Schildkraut, executive director of the Regional Gun Violence Research Consortium at the Rockefeller Institute of Government told Newsweek on Thursday.

                          "To my knowledge, this is the first perpetrator since Nashville who identified as transgender.""

                          "The nonprofit Gun Violence Archive, which began collecting data on gun violence in the U.S. in 2013, has recorded more than 4,100 mass shootings since the start of 2018. The GVA defines a mass shooting as four or more shot or killed in a single incident.

                          But only three of the mass shootings cited in Johnson's tweet, not counting Wednesday's incident, were carried out by individuals who were reportedly transgender: the 2023 shooting at a Christian school in Nashville, the 2019 shooting at a Denver-area charter school and the 2018 shooting at a Rite Aid warehouse in Aberdeen, Maryland.'


                          https://www.newsweek.com/robin-westm...debate-2120683

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                            So, we've established that guns can be taken away for alcohol use and certain mental conditions. I stand by transgenders being a very high risk group. At least flag 'em.
                            Using you logic, guns should be taken away from right wingers.

                            https://www.axios.com/2023/02/23/mas...dl-report-2022

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Copier Addict

                              Using you logic, guns should be taken away from right wingers.

                              https://www.axios.com/2023/02/23/mas...dl-report-2022
                              That's not my logic, its yours and the rest of the liberals. You think Trump supporters are racist, homophobes and uneducated rednecks while being prone to violence.

                              You know how fragile tannies are, They want to charge me with a hate crime for misgendering.
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Copier Addict

                                What percentage of mass shooters do you believe identity as transgender?
                                There's been 2 very recently.
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