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  • Copier Addict
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    #676
    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

    Originally posted by davidmtupper
    From one of your favorite sources, so complaining about the source is not going to get you anywhere
    Florida releases 4 examples from math textbooks it rejected for public schools | CNN
    ????
    How exactly does that clip prove your theory that white people are the problem? It clearly states in your clip that there is little reference to race at all.

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    • davidmtupper
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      #677
      Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

      Originally posted by copier addict
      ????
      How exactly does that clip prove your theory that white people are the problem? It clearly states in your clip that there is little reference to race at all.
      I never said that white people are the problem, any math text book, particularly one aimed at school kids rather than college, that uses social justice issues as examples or states that one of the goals is social rather than math (both are in those examples) should not be in public schools. Publics school should deal in facts, social studies should be replaced with civics (teaching how government is supposed to work per the founding documents, rather than whatever is in fashion today) and math should teach, you know, math, not how math is related to your social or racist score.

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      • BillyCarpenter
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        #678
        Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

        Originally posted by davidmtupper
        I never said that white people are the problem, any math text book, particularly one aimed at school kids rather than college, that uses social justice issues as examples or states that one of the goals is social rather than math (both are in those examples) should not be in public schools. Publics school should deal in facts, social studies should be replaced with civics (teaching how government is supposed to work per the founding documents, rather than whatever is in fashion today) and math should teach, you know, math, not how math is related to your social or racist score.

        You made that point clear from the beginning. The trolls aren't interested in any point you attempt to make. Trolls want to start an argument. Period.
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        • Copier Addict
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          Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

          Originally posted by davidmtupper
          When a math text includes examples that imply whites are the problem, then you need to review all text books going into public schools, and yes this did happen.
          Originally posted by davidmtupper
          I never said that white people are the problem, any math text book, particularly one aimed at school kids rather than college, that uses social justice issues as examples or states that one of the goals is social rather than math (both are in those examples) should not be in public schools. Publics school should deal in facts, social studies should be replaced with civics (teaching how government is supposed to work per the founding documents, rather than whatever is in fashion today) and math should teach, you know, math, not how math is related to your social or racist score.
          Sorry, you said math book imply whites are the problem. That still doesn't affect the truth that the books don't mention race. Why is fear so dominant in conservative circles.

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            #680
            Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
            You made that point clear from the beginning. The trolls aren't interested in any point you attempt to make. Trolls want to start an argument. Period.
            And gatekeepers hate pushback. Nobody likes gatekeepers.

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            • davidmtupper
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              #681
              Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

              Originally posted by copier addict
              Sorry, you said math book imply whites are the problem. That still doesn't affect the truth that the books don't mention race. Why is fear so dominant in conservative circles.
              Every single episode of "social justice" or "social scoring" or anything similar implies that whites are the problem and need to be held accountable. One of the example has students calculating their "racist score", are you saying that this is not going to end up with "it's whities fault"? If so you haven't been paying attention for the last several years, or only been paying attention to those media outlets that you agree with. Anyone who public speaks out saying something different is called, you guessed it, racist. Hell, a black guy getting killed by black police officers, in a a town with a majority black government, including police chief, is somehow due to white supremacy (yes, one media outlet said that). Everything the left fights for is to divide people by whatever categories they can. No longer can someone be just and America (or a Canadian), they have to preface that with one or more qualifiers or they get called <insert your choice of race, sexuality, gender?, etc insult here>, with racist being the most (over)used of the bunch.

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              • BillyCarpenter
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                There's some good information being posted but unfortunately the troll will keep arguing just to argue. Please understand that this is the sole purpose of a troll.

                Porn is also being show to kids in school. The truth deserves to see the light of day. Hopefully one day this place gets a moderator and takes care of the trolls. Enough.
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                • slimslob
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                  #683
                  Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                  There's some good information being posted but unfortunately the troll will keep arguing just to argue. Please understand that this is the sole purpose of a troll.

                  Porn is also being show to kids in school. The truth deserves to see the light of day. Hopefully one day this place gets a moderator and takes care of the trolls. Enough.
                  It appears that they are also trying to bury the truth by making multiple posts after one of us posts an article that they don't like. This often pushes the thread to another page and often 2 or more pages plus it tends to over load the subscribe thread function so that we often do not get an email when a new valid post has been made. That is why I often scroll back though a thread to the last I have made. They are doing as much or more damage to this site as the spammers have.

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                  • bsm2
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                    #684
                    Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                    Originally posted by davidmtupper
                    No, trying to prevent indoctrination. It's the favorite tool of the left, both Hitler (a socialist, as were all NAZIs, it's in the name) and Stalin wanted to control education so they could indoctrinate the young as they are more impressionable. If they taught critical thinking instead of CRT in schools, at all levels, the world would be a much better place.
                    There you go banning books just like the above

                    So much for Republicans Freedom

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                    • BBM
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                      #685
                      Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                      Originally posted by copier addict
                      Why is fear so dominant in conservative circles.
                      Look at collage campuses . Are you denying the fact they are banning books and speakers of different opinions . In some cases they are using force . At least Desantis is going through a process to review what is being taught . Going back to the broken record of calling people racist because they want to question what is being taught to are kids is a weak pathetic attempt to gather your activities to try and bully people who care .And that would be both black and white people .

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                      • bsm2
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                        #686
                        Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        There's some good information being posted but unfortunately the troll will keep arguing just to argue. Please understand that this is the sole purpose of a troll.

                        Porn is also being show to kids in school. The truth deserves to see the light of day. Hopefully one day this place gets a moderator and takes care of the trolls. Enough.
                        Porn you would know

                        Did you find out what a women is yet? Asking for a friend

                        Poor Billy yes you should start another dead thread

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                        • bsm2
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                          #687
                          Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                          Originally posted by davidmtupper
                          Every single episode of "social justice" or "social scoring" or anything similar implies that whites are the problem and need to be held accountable. One of the example has students calculating their "racist score", are you saying that this is not going to end up with "it's whities fault"? If so you haven't been paying attention for the last several years, or only been paying attention to those media outlets that you agree with. Anyone who public speaks out saying something different is called, you guessed it, racist. Hell, a black guy getting killed by black police officers, in a a town with a majority black government, including police chief, is somehow due to white supremacy (yes, one media outlet said that). Everything the left fights for is to divide people by whatever categories they can. No longer can someone be just and America (or a Canadian), they have to preface that with one or more qualifiers or they get called <insert your choice of race, sexuality, gender?, etc insult here>, with racist being the most (over)used of the bunch.
                          Still waiting for the book of text that supposed to be a problem

                          I'll wait?

                          PS if you have to say your not racist YOU probably are.

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                          • davidmtupper
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                            #688
                            Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                            Originally posted by bsm2
                            Still waiting for the book of text that supposed to be a problem

                            I'll wait?

                            PS if you have to say your not racist YOU probably are.
                            You've seen the examples but refuse to acknowledge them. And the last line of your post is only valid for the left, people with no moral compass. The only reason that I would have to say that is if I am wrongly accused of it. Since I know what is in my heart far better than someone who attributes every action to racism, or transphobia, or homophobia, or...., I would say that it's you who have the problem. Look up projection (psychological), you use that on a regular basis. Also, look up Rules For Radicals, you follow the teachings of that book to a "t". whether you intend to or not. One of the "rules" is to accuse your opponents of that which you yourself are guilty of.

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                            • bsm2
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                              #689
                              Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                              Originally posted by davidmtupper
                              You've seen the examples but refuse to acknowledge them. And the last line of your post is only valid for the left, people with no moral compass. The only reason that I would have to say that is if I am wrongly accused of it. Since I know what is in my heart far better than someone who attributes every action to racism, or transphobia, or homophobia, or...., I would say that it's you who have the problem. Look up projection (psychological), you use that on a regular basis. Also, look up Rules For Radicals, you follow the teachings of that book to a "t". whether you intend to or not. One of the "rules" is to accuse your opponents of that which you yourself are guilty of.
                              The article you posted was BS apparently you failed to read it.

                              Try reading it and get back to me with real information

                              Apparently you've already been indoctrinated into the fascist party and believe in banning books voting rights women's right and people of a different color

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                              • davidmtupper
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                                #690
                                Re: What republican politicians are actually concerned about. And it ain't people.

                                Originally posted by bsm2
                                The article you posted was BS apparently you failed to read it.

                                Try reading it and get back to me with real information

                                Apparently you've already been indoctrinated into the fascist party and believe in banning books voting rights women's right and people of a different color
                                Try looking at the screenshots and get back to me. Also get back to me with examples of burning books (limiting what is put in front of children is not burning books, unless you think that porn and socialist indoctrination are good, oops I forgot who I am talking to), limiting voting rights (requiring ID does not do that, if so then every country in the world that has a functioning government is guilty of the same), limiting womens rights (standing up for the unborn does not do that, the choice needs to be made before conception, not after and most of the laws make exceptions for medically necessary, rape and incest), and limiting rights of people of color (kind of misleading as all people have color, even albinos, not just those of certain heritage).

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