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  • Raymondd
    Service Manager

    100+ Posts
    • Jan 2008
    • 108

    #1

    Curious About pay scale?

    Guys & Gals,

    I am trying to get an average pay scale across the board. We are a small company about 30 employees.

    (Family owned) I wanted to know what you guys are paying entry level techs and sales persons. We are not in the recession yet.

    We offer full medical for the employees and a 401K

    Just wanted to see if we are in the Dinosaurs age?

    Any feed back is welcome!!

    Ray
  • fixthecopier
    ALIEN OVERLORD

    2,500+ Posts
    • Apr 2008
    • 4714

    #2
    You have already made me want to apply. I would tell you what I get, but I don't want the other techs to laugh at me........ Hey I am not kidding!
    The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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    • Llama God
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Mar 2009
      • 1353

      #3
      Once I've paid my mortgage, bills, bought enough cigarettes to feed my monster habit whilst simulteneously killing me softly and got buggered blue by the tax man for my company vehicle and fuel, I'm lucky if I can afford a Ginsters pasty.

      In all seriousness though, we pay very little for the trainee workshop engineers and they don't get a car or mobile phone obviously, but it does get better after that. The redeeming feature is that the cost of living in the North is a fraction of what it is in the Sarf.

      However, we don't get medical (we have the good old Nation 'ealth) and I have no idea what a 401k is or what to do with it. We do get all of our fuel paid for though, which is nice.

      I couldn't even hazard a guess at what we pay sales people, but no doubt it's far too much for the little that they do - they see "their" customer once every 3-5 years whereas we spend half of our lives pacifying the bastards and the other half trying to get salesmen off their arses to ring them about an easy upgrade which we've pretty much done for them already. And the less said about some of the dreadful shirts that they wear the better.

      I suppose that that is a whole other rant in itself, but I got caught up in the moment.

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      • DadO
        Trusted Tech

        Site Contributor
        250+ Posts
        • Dec 2007
        • 401

        #4
        Fully trained tech get above standard witch is 450$. Monthly payment vary from company to company and that is from 600 to 1000$

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        • Raymondd
          Service Manager

          100+ Posts
          • Jan 2008
          • 108

          #5
          Thanks for the replys!!!

          Fix come on down...

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          • 20YRSEXP
            Trusted Tech

            250+ Posts
            • Oct 2008
            • 281

            #6
            our techs start with a cell phone (thats how we clear calls) a laptop for service manuals and flashing, car allowance, medical insurance, 401K (matching). we will train a raw tech on site or send them if we need and starting pay is in the $13 to 15 an hour range. Got to admit there aren't a lot of complaints. After break in the techs also qualify for a performance based bonus.
            Is the glass half full or half empty? I say neither. The glass is obviously full, full of potential. The potential to hold more water or the potential to quench a thirst. Life is all about how you see it.

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            • Lagonda
              Service Manager

              Site Contributor
              1,000+ Posts
              • Aug 2008
              • 1649

              #7
              Our base level tech will get $18 to $20 per hour, mobile phone (unlocked but sensible use please) laptop, pants and shirts, $600 per month fixed car allowance and 32 cents per Km. Also get 9% superanuation, not that thats worth much after the suits pissed it up against the wall.
              The MD who couldn't decide which of his 5 cars to drive into work today has just said due to the economic downturn there will be no salary reveiw this year.
              Fortuantly I've just got rid of the mortgage but unfortuantly I've still got the wife so I might just squeak through for another year.
              At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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              • 20YRSEXP
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Oct 2008
                • 281

                #8
                good starting pay, generous car allowance and per km payout. I think I'm moving to australia. We had No salary review this year.... or last year .....or the year before. by the way.... not complaing here there are a lot worse places to work. This is a really good company to work for, just how things are sometimes.
                Last edited by 20YRSEXP; 04-08-2009, 12:08 PM.
                Is the glass half full or half empty? I say neither. The glass is obviously full, full of potential. The potential to hold more water or the potential to quench a thirst. Life is all about how you see it.

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                • Raymondd
                  Service Manager

                  100+ Posts
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 108

                  #9
                  I second 20yrs thoughts. Whats the cost of living DOWN UNDER? LOL

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                  • cobiray
                    Passing Duplication Xpert

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1199

                    #10
                    Wow, sounds like I don't have it as good as I thought. We're in a small market so maybe that counts for the less pay, but our health insurance is passable and the 401k match is a percentage of a percent. Better than not having anything at all though. The grass is always greener....
                    the savin2535 is displaying well bet the hiter lamp is not shining and the lamp had been tested o.k.please kindly help.
                    Samir: No, not again. I... why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to God, one of these days, I just kick this piece of shit out the window.
                    Michael Bolton: You and me both, man. That thing is lucky I'm not armed.

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                    • cobiray
                      Passing Duplication Xpert

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1199

                      #11
                      Oh, and we're not making as much as has stated in the previous posts. I'd tell you, but I don't want to embarrass myself too much.
                      the savin2535 is displaying well bet the hiter lamp is not shining and the lamp had been tested o.k.please kindly help.
                      Samir: No, not again. I... why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to God, one of these days, I just kick this piece of shit out the window.
                      Michael Bolton: You and me both, man. That thing is lucky I'm not armed.

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                      • rthonpm
                        Field Supervisor

                        2,500+ Posts
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 2847

                        #12
                        My fellow Americans, let us not forget that that great sounding Australian salary is at an exchange rate of 1 AUD to 71 cents USD, so really the pay is about 12.88 to 14.39 an hour in the dollars with Washington on them.
                        To our fellow techs in the land down under, what's the cost of living like and how far does that pay go?

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                        • fixthecopier
                          ALIEN OVERLORD

                          2,500+ Posts
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 4714

                          #13
                          I work for a small family business and the pay per hour is below par for the industry. I got no raise or review this year, but my shop just lost it's largest moneymaking account. We get no 401k. Company supplies trucks for techs. I have a 2008 Toyota Tacoma. I buy my own tools. My laptop is mine, so it stays at home. Company pays half of my medical. I get paid if I sell. I get small percent of my paid work, [ non contract repairs ]. I have the freedom to work on anything I want. I can set my own rates.

                          I could make more else where but;

                          1. I am old enough to have learned that it is more important to like your job than to make a lot of money.
                          2. Having a paying job in the future is better than having a great paying job now. I have almost 10 years where I am at, and pretty good job security even if the economy goes bad.
                          3. Other choices in this town may not be better
                          4. The largest dealer in town is Ricoh / Panisonic, I think they are for sale. They put GPS trackers in the techs trucks. They have to clock out if they turn off the road to go to the bank. My feeling about that is that if you hired me to represent your company an gave me a truck, you should trust me, so stick that GPS system up your ass! I think these people get paid well and more power to them.
                          5. The Mita / Kyroceya dealer is smaller than us and not really doing that well.
                          6. Another dealer in town is about same size as us and sells same lines, Konica Minolta and Lanier. Problem is they present themselves as a little more high end. The techs have to wear suit and tie. I can't see it. I would come back at the end of the day with toner hand prints on my dress shirt and the tie wrapped around my head as a sweat band and I am sure the sleeves on the blazer would have to go.
                          7. Sharp has an office in town but not a big share of the market.
                          8. There is Xerox. Well Xerox is kind of different. Nuff said.
                          9. So back to item 1, it is not the money, you got to fit in. I fit in where I work because everyone else is as Dysfunctional as I am. It is great to have a home even if they are a bunch of cheap bastards!
                          The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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                          • Lagonda
                            Service Manager

                            Site Contributor
                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1649

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rthonpm
                            To our fellow techs in the land down under, what's the cost of living like and how far does that pay go?
                            Thats a bit hard to answer, but I'll have a go.,
                            Petrol is about $1.10 a litre, a Big Mack about $4.25 (I think, I wouldnt eat one myself) median house price in Brisbane is in the $350k to $450K range (Sydney is over$650K) a beer will cost you $3.50 in a pub. Order a steak in a pub you will pay $18 to $25, in a restuarant $28 to $35
                            Just put a set of 4 tyres on the wifes MX6 for $600 and a new Toyota Corolla will cost you from $28k.
                            I've got a mobile phone /internet/land line deal that costs me $100 per month. Power bill is also about $100 a month with a spike in summer when we have the air-con on. Day time temp in in winter is in the 15 to 22 deg celcius range so you dont have to spend a lot on clothes and I just got shafted $46 for parking in the centre of town for 4 hours.
                            How far does my pay go? well that depends on the wife!!!!!!!!!
                            At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                            • Llama God
                              Service Manager

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1353

                              #15
                              I got a pay rise on Friday

                              On the plus side nobody questions my mobile phone use, car mileage, expense claims or fuel consumption (even with my heavy right foot) and they are 30 or so great people to work with. I can go home a bit early, start a bit late and do personal bits and bobs during the day if I want/need to, but it's swings and roundabouts in that regard as they know that I make up the time in other areas. The engineers and service manager also organise "toner drops" from time to time, normally on Friday afternoons, so that we can go for a pint and relax.

                              On the negative side I'm top of the list to be called if the alarm is triggered, but I do get paid extra (hard currency) if I go out.

                              I've been there for 9 years now and have no plans to move, unless anybody offers me a huge salary-hike to do so. Anybody...?

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