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  • bsm2
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    #76
    Re: Thec2024 Presidential Campaign

    Originally posted by slimslob
    What happened on January 6, 2021 was no more an insurrection than what he, SalesServiceGuy, and bsm2 had posted in the thread Just how Crazy is Donald Trump! That thread was a direct attack on a sitting President and started just over a month after President Trump was sworn in and continued through President Trump's entire term. And in fact they are still using it.

    On the other hand on January 6, 2021 Donald Trump was still the sitting President and therefore was the head of the US governemnt. Ergo the only way it can be considered would if there were liberals trying to force President Trump out of office 2 weeks before his term was to end.
    Apparently you still failed read Comprehension.

    Try and use Google so you don't look so Foolish it's embarrassing

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    • slimslob
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      #77
      Re: Thec2024 Presidential Campaign

      Originally posted by JLSam
      I mean, I don't like Donald Trump either.

      I think he would of been a decent president, if he would of just... not speak. If he would of just stayed of Twitter, stop antagonizing people, and do his job in silence, and let actions alone speak for themselves.

      Ugh, I mean, he was still better than Hillary Clinton in my opinion, and definitely a better choice than Joe Biden.

      I prefer DeSantis over Trump. But, there's no way DeSantis would win over the Center and Right voters after this last interview. My God, that was a huge mistake on CNN's part.
      In the 2016 Primaries I supported Ted Cruz.

      As for Governor Ron DeSantis, he needs to full fill his promise to the Florida voters and the run for President in 2028. He gets termed out the end of his current term and will be able to devote his full time and energy to running for President.

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      • Copier Addict
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        #78
        Re: Thec2024 Presidential Campaign

        Originally posted by JLSam
        Like I said I disavow acts of violence. But, cmon. Don't you think it's ridiculous, I doubt if Pence walked outside, they would bust out the gallows. It's a chant, and people were frustrated.

        To use your metaphor, I'm not pissing in your leg. I'm just asking you to confirm, that I'm indeed pissing on your leg, and not just messing with you and holding a bottle in hands.

        I don't like the reporting on that day, because people in the left were screaming insurrection, and the right, was screaming about unfair elections. Everyone is heated, and the truth is objective. Evidence needs to be hard, and cruel, without any doubt.

        And, unfortunately, the few hours of video, and lack thereof of partisan investigations to the event, leaves A LOT of doubt.

        Hmm. You said "wanting to kill someone is not a crime", fair enough. How about threatening to kill someone? Chanting "kill so and so" is definitely a threat.

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        • JLSam
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          #79
          Re: Thec2024 Presidential Campaign

          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
          I used to say that very same thing. But then I realized that liberals are vicious and will stop at nothing to destroy a republican president. Remember they called George Bush a war criminal? We can go down the line but I hope you get the point. Trump fought back and it worked. If it wasn't for Trump remaking the SCOTUS, we'd be an uber liberal country much like Canada or Germany. And we're headed there anyway if we lose the next election.
          I agree, not the labeling of liberals as vicious, but post-modern liberals most definitely. I consider their minds a cancer.

          I am content with the correction Trump did with the SCOTUS, only for the sake of balance. Hopefully, that institution remains stable.

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          • Copier Addict
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            #80
            Re: Thec2024 Presidential Campaign

            Originally posted by JLSam
            I agree, not the labeling of liberals as vicious, but post-modern liberals most definitely. I consider their minds a cancer.

            I am content with the correction Trump did with the SCOTUS, only for the sake of balance. Hopefully, that institution remains stable.

            Unfortunately there is no balance when a supposed unbiased institution becomes partisan. Judges should never be beholden to any political party or an individual like Clarence Thomas appears to be.

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            • JLSam
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              #81
              Re: Thec2024 Presidential Campaign

              Originally posted by copier addict
              Hmm. You said "wanting to kill someone is not a crime", fair enough. How about threatening to kill someone? Chanting "kill so and so" is definitely a threat.
              I adhere, although there are nuances, that if I walk to the streets, and start chanting over and over again:

              "You know what CopierAddict, I am going to kill you."
              And coming to your home, pointing a .45 to your head and saying
              "You know what CopierAddict, I am going to kill you."

              Is the same level of threat.

              Speech does not equate Actions.

              When BLM was chanting "Kill all cops", I argue that they were frustrated, and angry. They wanted to vent, and their free speech was protected by the Constitution of the U.S.

              Also, to be fair, afterwards there are indeed videos of people straight up walking up to cops, and shooting them. But, it's not the same. Speech does not equate actions, in my opinion.

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              • JLSam
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                #82
                Re: Thec2024 Presidential Campaign

                Originally posted by copier addict
                Unfortunately there is no balance when a supposed unbiased institution becomes partisan. Judges should never be beholden to any political party
                Fair enough, I agree.

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                • bsm2
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                  #83
                  Re: Thec2024 Presidential Campaign

                  Originally posted by JLSam
                  I agree, not the labeling of liberals as vicious, but post-modern liberals most definitely. I consider their minds a cancer.

                  I am content with the correction Trump did with the SCOTUS, only for the sake of balance. Hopefully, that institution remains stable.
                  Oh no your not going to make any new friends with comments like that .

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    #84
                    Re: Thec2024 Presidential Campaign

                    Originally posted by JLSam
                    I adhere, although there are nuances, that if I walk to the streets, and start chanting over and over again:

                    "You know what CopierAddict, I am going to kill you."
                    And coming to your home, pointing a .45 to your head and saying
                    "You know what CopierAddict, I am going to kill you."

                    Is the same level of threat.

                    Speech does not equate Actions.

                    When BLM was chanting "Kill all cops", I argue that they were frustrated, and angry. They wanted to vent, and they are protected by their free speech was protected by the Constitution of the U.S.

                    Also, to be fair, afterwards there are indeed videos of people straight up walking up to cops, and shooting them. But, it's not the same. Speech does not equate actions, in my opinion.

                    A threat is a threat. It's a crime to threaten to kill another person. Do you agree?
                    I don't understand how one justifies an angry mob threatening to kill another person as just venting. Whether it's a group of BLM protesters or a group of people storming the Capitol

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                    • JLSam
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                      #85
                      Re: Thec2024 Presidential Campaign

                      Originally posted by slimslob
                      In the 2016 Primaries I supported Ted Cruz.

                      As for Governor Ron DeSantis, he needs to full fill his promise to the Florida voters and the run for President in 2028. He gets termed out the end of his current term and will be able to devote his full time and energy to running for President.
                      Sigh... here's hoping.

                      He's quite the Constitutionalist. Which I like.

                      Libertarians can only hope.

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                      • bsm2
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                        #86
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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          #87
                          Re: Thec2024 Presidential Campaign

                          Originally posted by copier addict
                          Hmm. You said "wanting to kill someone is not a crime", fair enough. How about threatening to kill someone? Chanting "kill so and so" is definitely a threat.

                          Alex, I'll take who said this for $5000.00 - "What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want them? Now!"

                          Who is Black Lives Matter for the win.


                          Bonus question; Who supported BLM? If you said copier addict...you're correct.



                          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                          • bsm2
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                            #88
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                            • Copier Addict
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                              #89
                              Re: Thec2024 Presidential Campaign

                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              Alex, I'll take who said this for $5000.00 - "What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want them? Now!"

                              Who is Black Lives Matter for the win.


                              Bonus question; Who supported BLM? If you said copier addict...you're correct.

                              Thanks for your input.

                              Here's another question.
                              Who is carrying on an adult conversation?
                              Answer. JL Sam. That's who. It's quite refreshing

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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                #90
                                Re: Thec2024 Presidential Campaign

                                Originally posted by copier addict
                                Thanks for your input.

                                Here's another question.
                                Who is carrying on an adult conversation?
                                Answer. JL Sam. That's who. It's quite refreshing

                                Actually, I'm carrying on the adult conversation. Trump also raised this very point during the Town Hall. Just because you want to stick your head in the sand doesn't invalidate the truth. Carry on.
                                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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