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  • BillyCarpenter
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    #466
    Originally posted by copier addict

    It doesn't take a genius to see the supreme Court justices, almost 100% of the time, vote along party lines. Even with the latest decision involving trumpy's immunity there are even conservatives calling out the supreme Court.

    "At this point at this Supreme Court, originalism is a dead letter, to be resurrected and employed only when it suits the court's purposes," said Michael Luttig, a conservative former federal judge.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...ega-rcna159945

    Again, with all due respect, just because judges don't agree with your liberal ideology, doesn't mean they are biased or wrong. All it means is they reject your core liberal values. I would say that you're a liberal extremist. That's my 2-cents
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    • Copier Addict
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      #467
      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter


      Again, with all due respect, just because judges don't agree with your liberal ideology, doesn't mean they are biased or wrong. All it means is they reject your core liberal values. I would say that you're a liberal extremist. That's my 2-cents
      Honestly, your two cents aren't worth a plug nickel. Lol
      I am the farthest thing from an extremist anything.
      You are far, far more extreme than I am.

      You can't bring yourself to honestly critique anyone on the right, and you make excuses for their transgressions.

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      • BillyCarpenter
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        #468
        Originally posted by copier addict

        Honestly, your two cents aren't worth a plug nickel. Lol
        I am the farthest thing from an extremist anything.
        You are far, far more extreme than I am.

        You can't bring yourself to honestly critique anyone on the right, and you make excuses for their transgressions.

        Call me old fashioned, but I consider most of your positions to be as extreme as they get. I'll list a few.


        1. Abortion: I've asked you this question many times.

        Question: If a woman and unborn baby are perfectly healthy, are you willing to draw a line at which time an abortion would be illegal? I'm not asking you anything other than that. I don't want to hear you say that a doctor wouldn't perform an abortion at 9 months. All I want to know is if there's any line that YOU would draw. Thus far, you have refused to draw any line and I consider that EXTREME.


        2. Gender/Sex: You can't tell me what a woman is. You can't tell me what man is. EXTREME.

        3. Gender reassignment for minors/kids. Without the parents permission. EXTREME.

        4. Mass Migration: EXTREME.


        I could throw in you support for Trudeau invoking the War Powers Act on private citizens.
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        • Copier Addict
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          #469
          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter


          Call me old fashioned, but I consider most of your positions to be as extreme as they get. I'll list a few.


          1. Abortion: I've asked you this question many times.

          Question: If a woman and unborn baby are perfectly healthy, are you willing to draw a line at which time an abortion would be illegal? I'm not asking you anything other than that. I don't want to hear you say that a doctor wouldn't perform an abortion at 9 months. All I want to know is if there's any line that YOU would draw. Thus far, you have refused to draw any line and I consider that EXTREME.


          2. Gender/Sex: You can't tell me what a woman is. You can't tell me what man is. EXTREME.

          3. Gender reassignment for minors/kids. Without the parents permission. EXTREME.

          4. Mass Migration: EXTREME.


          I could throw in you support for Trudeau invoking the War Powers Act on private citizens.
          You
          Banning books
          Removing a woman's freedom over her own body
          Using the weight of government to rage a personal war on companies
          Supporting a candidate who is obviously cognitively compromised.
          Etc, etc
          It seems your extremism is way more dangerous.

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          • BillyCarpenter
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            #470
            Originally posted by copier addict

            You
            Banning books
            Removing a woman's freedom over her own body
            Using the weight of government to rage a personal war on companies
            Supporting a candidate who is obviously cognitively compromised.
            Etc, etc
            It seems your extremism is way more dangerous.

            Unlike you, I can support my positions. You refuse to supporf yours.


            1. Banning books: Yes, books that teach little kids about anal sex and blowjobs. This is a fact.

            2. Abortion: An unborn baby has different DNA than the woman. Thus it's not her body.

            3. Using the weight of government to rage a personal war on companies. - I have no idea what you're talking about.

            4. Supporting a candidate who is obviously cognitively compromised. - No I do not support Biden. That would be you.


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            • Copier Addict
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              #471
              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter


              Unlike you, I can support my positions. You refuse to supporf yours.


              1. Banning books: Yes, books that teach little kids about anal sex and blowjobs. This is a fact.

              2. Abortion: An unborn baby has different DNA than the woman. Thus it's not her body.

              3. Using the weight of government to rage a personal war on companies. - I have no idea what you're talking about.

              4. Supporting a candidate who is obviously cognitively compromised. - No I do not support Biden. That would be you.

              You were all for Desantis' personal vendetta war on Disney
              Your inability to admit trumpy's cognitive decline does not mean it isn't there.
              Your justification for taking personal freedoms away from people does NOT make it right.

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              • BillyCarpenter
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                #472
                Originally posted by copier addict

                You were all for Desantis' personal vendetta war on Disney
                Your inability to admit trumpy's cognitive decline does not mean it isn't there.
                Your justification for taking personal freedoms away from people does NOT make it right.

                Yes, I support taking away Disney's Tax Free status in response to pushing woke ideology on little kids. In my opinion, we need to eliminate it from the face of the earth. I'm fully committed.

                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                • Copier Addict
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                  #473
                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter


                  Yes, I support taking away Disney's Tax Free status in response to pushing woke ideology on little kids. In my opinion, we need to eliminate it from the face of the earth. I'm fully committed.
                  Define woke

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    #474
                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter


                    Yes, I support taking away Disney's Tax Free status in response to pushing woke ideology on little kids. In my opinion, we need to eliminate it from the face of the earth. I'm fully committed.
                    In other words you are extreme in your opinion of something you can't even define? Do I have that right?

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                      #475
                      Originally posted by copier addict

                      In other words you are extreme in your opinion of something you can't even define? Do I have that right?
                      This is the way it always go when I try to engage you. You answer no questions and ask many.

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                        #476
                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                        This is the way it always go when I try to engage you. You answer no questions and ask many.
                        You didn't ask a question. I was simply making an observation about your extremism

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          #477
                          Originally posted by copier addict

                          You didn't ask a question.

                          If you didn't see a question, then you're not paying attention. Have a good night.

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                          • Copier Addict
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                            #478
                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter


                            If you didn't see a question, then you're not paying attention. Have a good night.
                            Deflection is your baby, isn't it. Your extremist views on something you can't even define is hilarious.
                            Sleep well, Skippy

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                            • bsm2
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                              #479
                              Yep Trumps Judge rigged it

                              What BS

                              Welcome to 1938

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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                #480
                                This is massive news. This was the biggest of all the cases. Fight, fight, fight. Victory. Liberals will really blow their lid when the other convictions are overturned.


                                Judge dismisses Trump's Florida classified documents case


                                A judge in Florida has dismissed the case against former President Trump's handling of classified documents.

                                Trump had faced charges stemming from special counsel Jack Smith's investigation into his possession of classified materials at Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence. He pleaded not guilty to all 37 felony counts from Smith’s probe, including willful retention of national defense information, conspiracy to obstruct justice and false statements.

                                "Former President Trump’s Motion to Dismiss Indictment Based on the Unlawful Appointment and Funding of Special Counsel Jack Smith is GRANTED in accordance with this Order," U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon wrote in a Monday ruling. "The Superseding Indictment is DISMISSED because Special Counsel Smith’s appointment violates the Appointments Clause of the United States Constitution."


                                Trump, following the ruling, told Fox News' Bret Baier – the anchor and executive editor of ‘Special Report with Bret Baier’ – that he was "thrilled that a judge had the courage and wisdom to do this. This has big, big implications, not just for this case but for other cases.



                                "The special counsel worked with everyone to try to take me down," Trump added from Milwaukee, the site of this week's Republican National Convention. "This is a big, big deal. It only makes this convention more positive. This will be an amazing week."

                                The Appointments Clause says, "Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the Supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States be appointed by the President subject to the advice and consent of the Senate, although Congress may vest the appointment of inferior officers in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments." Smith, however, was never confirmed by the Senate.


                                "Upon careful study of the foundational challenges raised in the Motion, the Court is convinced that Special Counsel’s Smith’s prosecution of this action breaches two structural cornerstones of our constitutional scheme – the role of Congress in the appointment of constitutional officers, and the role of Congress in authorizing expenditures by law," Cannon wrote.


                                "The Framers gave Congress a pivotal role in the appointment of principal and inferior officers. That role cannot be usurped by the Executive Branch or diffused elsewhere – whether in this case or in another case, whether in times of heightened national need or not," she continued.


                                "In the case of inferior officers, that means that Congress is empowered to decide if it wishes to vest appointment power in a Head of Department, and indeed, Congress has proven itself quite capable of doing so in many other statutory contexts. But it plainly did not do so here, despite the Special Counsel’s strained statutory readings," Cannon added.



                                ​"In the end, it seems the Executive’s growing comfort in appointing ‘regulatory’ special counsels in the more recent era has followed an ad hoc pattern with little judicial scrutiny," she also said.

                                Earlier this month, Trump requested a partial pause in the classified documents case brought against him after a U.S. Supreme Court decision found that presidents have substantial immunity for official acts that occurred while they were in office.

                                Lawyers for Trump had asked a Florida court to pause all proceedings in the case until the judge can apply the Supreme Court’s immunity ruling to the facts of the case.​
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