More from the religion of Peace..........

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  • NeoMatrix
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    #31
    Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

    I once read a quote that said "you should avoid conversions about politics or religion unless your out to pick a fight".

    I had been pondering this subject only this morning, and it occured to me that people who believe space beings and flying saucers are consider a bit strange and weird. But people who beleive in god are concided stable and normal. Yet no one that believes in god has ever seen him or proved he exists. Yet there are many documented facts that extra-terrestrial beings and flying saucers exist.

    So who is the stranger of the two factions ?

    o Those that perportrate their deeds in the name of a god they can't prove.
    o Or those that believe in extra-terrestrials ?

    Just my five cents worth.
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    • mrwho
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      #32
      Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

      Although I don't believe in flying saucers (I believe in UFOs - which are a completely different thing, and not necessarily originated from out-of-space - and I believe in extra-terrestrial life - the universe is too big, and I'm just not sure they've ever been onto our planet), I can see the point in your argument.

      But I don't think it's valid. There are many supposedly documented occurrences of "miracles" attributed to god or any saint. Most of them have been proven to be either hoaxes or naturally-ocurring phenomena. Those few that escape any explanation, although strange, still don't prove that any powerful being exists - they just prove we still can't explain everything we find in our day-to-day life.

      For example, same thing happen with ghosts, haunted houses and other stuff like that. Many people believe in that - even people that don't believe in god or in UFOs - but most cases can be narrowed to a series of factors that, when together, create an atmosphere that is ripe for that. Human psyche also plays a major part in that - we evolved (and I'm sorry to my catholic friends for this, but it IS proven) from small mammals that roamed the earth during the time of the dinossaurs, and that instinct of being afraid of dark places and the unknown where "monsters" could be hiding can be a residual instict of that time, but it still doesn't mean that ghosts and hauntings exist.

      Bottom line is, anyone believes what they want to believe - gods, ghosts, UFOs, nothing - and that's perfectly fine by me. Just don't try to sell it to me, I'm not buying (although, incidentally, I had a lot of fun the last time some Jehovah Witnesses banged at my door - they never came back, I wonder why...).
      ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
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      'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

      Ibid

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      • Akitu
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        #33
        Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

        A favourite quote of mine... "Religion is like a p***s, it's fine to have one, it's fine to be proud of it, but for the love of humanity don't wave it around in public and don't try to shove it down someone's throat."
        Cthulhu for president! Why settle for the lesser evil?

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        • Tricky
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          #34
          Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

          Originally posted by Lagonda
          Strewth! its getting a bit high brow for a copier tech chat site when people start quoting Greek philosophers
          Not really I like to see something intellectual posted now and again, but I preferred Akitu's penis quote above.

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          • zed255
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            #35
            Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

            Originally posted by mrwho
            ...snip...

            Bottom line is, anyone believes what they want to believe - gods, ghosts, UFOs, nothing - and that's perfectly fine by me. Just don't try to sell it to me, I'm not buying (although, incidentally, I had a lot of fun the last time some Jehovah Witnesses banged at my door - they never came back, I wonder why...).
            Hear, hear MrWho. Anyone can do what they please in so far as what they want to believe, just leave me to my own devices. I won't bother you if you don't bother me.

            Now where did I put that goat's blood and chicken entrails...

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            • ZOOTECH
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              #36
              Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

              Originally posted by zed255
              Now where did I put that goat's blood and chicken entrails...
              Ahhh, must be time for dinner.
              "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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              • jonezy999
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                #37
                Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

                Originally posted by zed255
                Hear, hear MrWho. Anyone can do what they please in so far as what they want to believe, just leave me to my own devices. I won't bother you if you don't bother me.

                Now where did I put that goat's blood and chicken entrails...
                HAHA, our band got labelled as satan worshipers on facebook before our gig on saturday night. Best laugh I'd had in a while.
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                • prntrfxr
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                  #38
                  Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

                  I think that people in general who bash what other people believe are the ones who start wars in the first place. Peaceful and respectful discussion of beliefs never start wars. It's when one group makes it personal by saying, "You're stupid or crazy for believing or not believing that!" to another group, that arguments, fights, and wars break out. That is the same whether you are religious or atheist. Usually, people who rant about what others believe or protesting it, are just attention seeking, anyway.

                  Whether a person is a Muslim, Jehovah's Witness, Catholic, Hare Khrishna, or atheist, for that matter, they should be able to talk about what they want to believe from door-to-door, on the street corner, on the internet, or at the airport, without hassle. After all, unless I'm mistaken, it IS a free country. Unless they are kidnapping your children, brainwashing people in a military compound and not letting people leave, blowing up people, training them to use weapons, or trying to coerce you at gunpoint, they are harmless. No one is going to make you believe something you don't want to believe, anyway. A simple, "I'm an atheist and I would not like to discuss what I believe with you", usually does the trick. Really, toleration is what makes for peace, doesn't it?
                  Last edited by prntrfxr; 11-09-2011, 05:41 PM. Reason: Noticed punctuation problem. Call me a perfectionist. I can't help myself.
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                  • mrwho
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                    #39
                    Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

                    Originally posted by prntrfxr
                    A simple, "I'm an atheist and I would not like to discuss what I believe with you usually does the trick." Really, toleration is what makes for peace, doesn't it?
                    ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                    Mascan42

                    'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                    Ibid

                    I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                    • emujo
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                      #40
                      Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

                      Any one who "believes" and subscribes to a "Convert or Die" way of interpreting their beliefs will hopefully join their buddies in hell. If you want to die for your religion, please do so. If you want to kill me for you religion then you should be hunted down and shot on site..Christians, muslims, buddhist, included. Emujo
                      If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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                      • Akitu
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                        #41
                        Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

                        On the topic of religion and wars etc, all religions basically say the same thing. Shit happens, it's just the perspective on how their shit happened. Let's have a look, shall we?

                        AGNOSTICISM What is this shit?

                        ALTRUISM Want some shit?

                        AMISH Shit dost occur.

                        APATHISM I don't give a shit.

                        ATHEISM I don't believe this shit.

                        BA'HAI All shit is truly shit.

                        BUDDHISM Shit happens.

                        BAPTIST FUNDAMENTALISM Shit happens because the Bible says so.

                        CAPITALISM How much will this shit cost?

                        CARTESIANISM I shit, therefore I am.

                        CATHOLICISM If shit happens, you deserved it.

                        CLASSICAL Marxism The workers take all the shit, but they're gonna dish it back out again.

                        COMMUNISM It's everybody's shit.

                        CONFUCIANISM Confucius say, "Shit happens."

                        CREATION SCIENCE We have proof that God created all the shit that happens.

                        CONTRACT THEORY If we don't agree to form society, everything will go to shit.

                        DADISM Your mom knows her shit.

                        DARWINISM We came up from shit.

                        DESCARTES I shit therefore I am.

                        DIANETICS Shit your way to a better life.

                        DOMINICANS Belive in shit, or we'll boil you in it.

                        DYSLEXIANISM Hits shapnep.

                        DISCORDIANISM This MIGHT be shit, but is instead a fuzzy 1955 Mustang.

                        Logical-Positivism Shit = S+H+I+T

                        MARINES It's not just shit, it's an adventure.

                        MCCARTHYISM Are you now, or have you ever been, shit?

                        MENNONITE None of this modern shit now.

                        MOMISM You'll eat this shit and like it!

                        MORMONISM Your shit is shit, but our shit is the ONE TRUE shit.

                        MURPHISM Shit always happens at the worst possible time and place.

                        NARCISSISM My shit don't stink.

                        NIETSCHE If you're not Ubermenschen, you're not shit.

                        NIHILISM Everything is shit.

                        NIXONISM Shit didn't happen, and if it did, I don't know anything about it.

                        Nonsequiturism Route 176 goes south.

                        Objectivism (Ann Rand) Shit is Shit.

                        PAGANISM Shit happens. And is a part of nature.

                        PANGLOSSISM This is the best of all possible shits.

                        PLATONISM There is an ideal shit, of which all the shit that happens is but an imperfect image.

                        Protestantism Let shit happen to someone else.

                        RASTAFARIAN Shit happens, but if it's all right with Jah, it's all right with me.

                        ROBINISM (tv) Holy shit Batman!

                        RUSSEAU Only natural shit is worth shit.

                        Rastafarianism "Let's smoke this shit."

                        SHINTO Shit is everywhere. So as long as you're stepping in it, show it some respect.

                        SKINNERISM If eat then shit.

                        SOLIPSISM All this shit is a creation of my imagination.

                        SOLIPSISM The only thing I can be sure of is that my shit happens.

                        SPOONERISM Hit shappens.

                        STALINISM The state treats you like shit.

                        SUBGENIUS Bob happens -- SO GIVE ME SOME SLACK!

                        SURREALISM Shit is shiny and shaped like a buick.

                        Scientific-Creationism Shit happens all at once

                        Secular-Humanism Shit happens, but there's a rational explanation.

                        TAOISM The shit that happens is not the true shit.

                        THE-FORCE Do not be swayed by the Dark Side of the shit.

                        TV-Evangelism you need our shit, but it'll cost you.

                        UNITARIANISM There's only one shit, but you can have it happen any way you want.

                        Utilitarianism Do that which generates the greatest shit for the greatest number.

                        VANDALISM I'm gonna wreck this shit!

                        VOODOOISM Shit doesn't just happen - somebody dumped it on you

                        Xeno's paradox It's logically impossible for shit to happen.

                        YUPPIEISM It's my shit! All mine!

                        ZEN What is the sound of shit happening?

                        COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS OF WORLD RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHIES

                        TAOISM Shit Happens

                        CONFUCIANISM Confucius says, "Shit Happens."

                        ZEN What is the sound of shit happening?

                        YOGA There's a full lotus shit happening.

                        TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit.......

                        HINDUISM This shit has happened before.

                        ISLAM If shit happens, it is the will of Allah.

                        CATHOLICISM If shit happens, you deserve it.

                        FUNDAMENTALISM If shit happens, they deserve it.

                        PROTESTANTISM Let shit happen to someone else.

                        EPISCOPALIANISM When shit happens, make it tasteful.

                        JUDAISM Why does shit always happen to US?

                        MORMONISM Shit's going to happen. Stockpile.

                        UNITARIANISM Deal with your own shit happening.

                        TWELVE STEP PROGRAMS. We're powerless over shit. Turn shit over.

                        ASTROLOGY Uranus transits.

                        PERESTROIKA We can't control shit. Let shit happen.

                        AGNOSTICISM Shit may or may not be happening; we don't know shit.

                        ATHEISM No shit.

                        GNOSTICISM Know shit.



                        Yes, I'm aware some of these aren't religion, however this topic keeps bringing things to mind I've seen on the interwebs that I found humorous and felt I should share with everyone for some laughs.

                        *Ninja edit* Large post. Apologies.
                        Last edited by Akitu; 11-09-2011, 06:02 PM. Reason: Bragging rights
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                        • Lagonda
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                          #42
                          Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

                          Originally posted by jonezy999
                          HAHA, our band got labelled as satan worshipers on facebook before our gig on saturday night. Best laugh I'd had in a while.
                          I thought about taking up satan worship but virgins are getting hard to find around here.
                          At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                          • mojorolla
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                            #43
                            Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

                            And whats the deal with the "72 virgins"!? I would settle for 3 "ladies who know a thing or two". I get enough "virgins" to train at work; I sure don't want to do it in the afterlife.

                            Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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                            • Lagonda
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                              #44
                              Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

                              Originally posted by mojorolla
                              I get enough "virgins" to train at work
                              Interesting job you have there Mojorolla, need a hand?
                              At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                              • BLADE
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                                #45
                                Re: More from the religion of Peace..........

                                @ Akitu

                                Bumperstickerism - shit magic happens

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