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  • banginbishop
    grumpy old git

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    anti islam film

    ok, I'm not American I'm British but I would like to ask the question to the Muslim faithful about the demonstrations or mob rule around the world at the moment regarding the above film.

    while I support your right to demonstrate about this film (which I have seen)can anyone justify the call to behead people or the storming of embassies? I'm afraid all I see is that you want to impose your beliefs on everyone and if you don't agree with our beliefs then well destroy anyone who dares to mock us or questions our faith. I along with millions of others will watch the violence and think Islam is not a peace full religion and class all Muslim's as violent repressive people.

    This is not an attack on your faith as it's up to you what you believe but I'm asking the question why call for a beheading or the angry demonstrations? asking the question why do you want to cut off somebodys head?


    civilized debate please no slagging off other countries or religions please
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  • Hemlock
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    #2
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    Man, talk about a thinly veiled attack on an entire religious group.
    “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” (Isaac Asimov)

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    • banginbishop
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      #3
      Re: anti islam film

      Originally posted by Hemlock
      Man, talk about a thinly veiled attack on an entire religious group.
      want to explain that?
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      • Gamut
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        #4
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        And there was I thinking "Rants, Raves and Everything Else" would still relate to Office Equipment.

        OMG to quote my 3yr old niece.

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        • Hemlock
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          #5
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          Originally posted by banginbishop
          want to explain that?
          You call for civilized debate right after you basically accuse all Muslims of wanting to behead non-believers.

          Kinda like me asking you to explain what Brits have against dental hygiene.
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          • banginbishop
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            #6
            Re: anti islam film

            Originally posted by Hemlock
            You call for civilized debate right after you basically accuse all Muslims of wanting to behead non-believers.

            Kinda like me asking you to explain what Brits have against dental hygiene.
            ahh right so you dont see the news with people holding signs saying behead them? no? as i said im asking what justification is there for this and your response says it all doesnt it. In the UK we have many muslims and the majority wouldnt protest with placards saying death to whoever yes there is protests but as said I why would you want to behead someone. I dont give a shit if it upsets anyone but look on the news pakistan afghanistan all saying behead, storming embassies you telling me thats normal? you might think its acceptable I dont no matter what the protest is about. As I said I want to know why as a muslim this could be justified?
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            • Hemlock
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              How many Muslims in Pakistan or Afghanistan *haven't* blown up an embassy or tried to behead someone?

              I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting for you to count.
              “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” (Isaac Asimov)

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              • JustManuals
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                • Jan 2006
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                #8
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                The Muslims should go back to doing what they do best. Killing each other. They've been doing it since the 7th century and it's still going strong.
                Notice how thousands of Muslims are being killed in Syria and not one Arab country is helping them, but publish a silly movie on facebook and they want to behead everyone who doesn't believe in the pedophile prophet MoHAMhead.

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                • Kidaver
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                  #9
                  Re: anti islam film

                  I think it is a fair and reasonable question. I mean all he is asking is for someone to explain to him what leads up to this mob mentality mindset to demand the deaths of other human beings. Of course I'm sure people will say "The video mocked their religion" etc etc....not a very good justification. I mean if we were to take that excuse for instance, in England hasn't Monty Python been mocking the Church of England for decades? I don't see the British all rioting baying for John Cleese's head. Which is kind of ironic in a sense that the Church of England was pretty much created so Henry the VIII could divorce and behead his wives.
                  "In a cruel and evil world, being cynical can allow you to get some entertainment out of it."

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                  • fbkhan3
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                    #10
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                    Originally posted by banginbishop
                    ahh right so you dont see the news with people holding signs saying behead them? no? as i said im asking what justification is there for this and your response says it all doesnt it. In the UK we have many muslims and the majority wouldnt protest with placards saying death to whoever yes there is protests but as said I why would you want to behead someone. I dont give a shit if it upsets anyone but look on the news pakistan afghanistan all saying behead, storming embassies you telling me thats normal? you might think its acceptable I dont no matter what the protest is about. As I said I want to know why as a muslim this could be justified?
                    Azhar Ahmed, if someone can be accused over fb status update,why not this one, if YouTube thinks holocaust materiel is inappropriate and remove it why not this one,why it's always double standards, i'm not justifying running over embassies and killing innocent ppl but yes the this thing should stopped and culprit should bring to the justice, Sorry i don't wanna be part of this conversation anymore, Regards

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                    • Ctl-Alt-Del
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                      #11
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                      Originally posted by banginbishop
                      civilized debate please no slagging off other countries or religions please
                      Disclaimer, most people would call me an Atheist but I'm not even that organized. I'm not flaming you or any particular country or religion, I think they are all BS to some extent but that is a different conversation.


                      Originally posted by banginbishop
                      ...I along with millions of others will watch the violence and think Islam is not a peace full religion and class all Muslim's as violent repressive people.
                      Agreed, many would make that same incorrect assumption especially since there are groups of people, governments, and media organizations that exploit these violent images and selectively add commentary for their own political, ideological, and monetary gain. Just like most outrages, this is a manufactured outrage (see the link below)


                      Originally posted by banginbishop
                      ...why call for a beheading or the angry demonstrations? asking the question why do you want to cut off somebodys head?
                      Because this is what religions do, most of the big ones share the same book. Have you ever read Leviticus, Exodus, Genesis, or some of the other peaceful parts of the bible that talk about "an eye for an eye" or executing kids for talking-back or dragging your non-virgin bride over to you father-in-laws house so the entire village can stone her to death. And whatever you do, don't do anything on the Sabbath.


                      Salman Rushdie was on MSNBC earlier this week and had some great points on the subject, here is a link

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                      • MR Bill
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                        #12
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                        Well there are good and bad in all faiths. But calling for the death of some person that makes a cartoon or a movie about Muhammad, Islam , Muslums, Jesus, Christains, Jews, Mormans. Etc. That is not right.

                        So if I burn the Koran you are going to want to protest and kill people but it's OK to burn the bible?? Put a cross with jesus in a jar of piss and that just fine. ?

                        Unfortunately It's in the middle East where most of the violence is centered. Not saying what religion that is. You guess.

                        And you all know that if Iran get's the A bomb forget about beheading, Israel is going up it a mushroom cloud.

                        If there is a GOD , Jehovah, or whatever you want to call him , do you think that he cares about a line . And on that side of the line you are this and on the other side of the line you are that. Hell no. If there is a maker he will be very disappointed with us .

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                        • banginbishop
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                          #13
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                          Originally posted by Hemlock
                          How many Muslims in Pakistan or Afghanistan *haven't* blown up an embassy or tried to behead someone?

                          I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting for you to count.
                          bit of a shit quote there! you have your head in the sand. Read the news or dont you look beyond your borders for what goes on in the world? Baying mobs being prevented from storming embassy compounds by the local police or army. As i said I stand by my question and ask what can justify wanting to cut off someones head. I live in a democracy not back in the dark ages oh and the remark about the british and dental hygene - when i said keep it civilised, oh forget it I wont bother as its gone over your head!
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                          • MR Bill
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                            Hey Paul the manual pusher. Be careful. With that kind of comment you might get some rep points taken away. LOL.

                            Damn, I almost fell out of my chair. You and I agree on something. LOl.

                            Altho Pot Pol, Hitler, Stalin were not from the middle East. So the muslam world does not have a lock on killing.

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                            • MR Bill
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                              Ya ctl-alt-del, what does dental higene have to do with anything.

                              I was watching David Letterman 1 night and there was this poll taken in England and the male population only change there underwear every 3 days. Let talk about that why don't we. ( joke)

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