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  • mjarbar

    #16
    Re: Marijuana

    It doesn't really matter what the health problems with a substance are whether it is legal or not, the problems still remain.

    The following is an excerpt from a file I found from the NHS (the UK's health service) about the cost of alcohol on the service.

    This is almost double recording alcohol-related harm, the cost is likely to be higher.

    Now alcohol is legal and as you can see still causes a big problem.

    Briefing_193_Alcohol_costs_the_NHS.pdf

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    • prntrfxr
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      #17
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      I once had someone tell me that most of the copier techs he knew smoked weed. I told him that was a lie, that due to the nature of the job, one had to have ones wits about them. After reading all these posts, I'm not so sure he wasn't right.
      Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Coke in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!".

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      • Akitu
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        #18
        Re: Marijuana

        Originally posted by prntrfxr
        I once had someone tell me that most of the copier techs he knew smoked weed. I told him that was a lie, that due to the nature of the job, one had to have ones wits about them. After reading all these posts, I'm not so sure he wasn't right.
        I'd concur with the line of thought. One needs their wits about them, hence why it's important to stay sober during the work day, and unwind with afterwards with a doob and a bag of chips...
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        • Jules Winfield
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          #19
          Re: Marijuana

          Originally posted by prntrfxr
          I once had someone tell me that most of the copier techs he knew smoked weed. I told him that was a lie, that due to the nature of the job, one had to have ones wits about them. After reading all these posts, I'm not so sure he wasn't right.
          Your friend is probably right. It's true that it's preferential to not be loaded when you're fixing copiers, but seriously, no one ever died from not being able to make a copy.
          But I'm trying, Ringo. I'm trying real hard... to be the Shepherd.

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          • Ctl-Alt-Del
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            #20
            Re: Marijuana

            Originally posted by prntrfxr
            I once had someone tell me that most of the copier techs he knew smoked weed. I told him that was a lie, that due to the nature of the job, one had to have ones wits about them. After reading all these posts, I'm not so sure he wasn't right.
            I would say the number is 30%-40% for the techs I have known over the past bunch of years but I am in the Pacific Northwest where weed is pretty much a socially acceptable substance.

            Here is some info from NORML: About Marijuana

            Marijuana is the third most popular recreational drug in America (behind only alcohol and tobacco), and has been used by nearly 100 million Americans. According to government surveys, some 25 million Americans have smoked marijuana in the past year, and more than 14 million do so regularly despite harsh laws against its use. Our public policies should reflect this reality, not deny it.
            Marijuana is far less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco. Around 50,000 people die each year from alcohol poisoning. Similarly, more than 400,000 deaths each year are attributed to tobacco smoking. By comparison, marijuana is nontoxic and cannot cause death by overdose. According to the prestigious European medical journal, The Lancet, "The smoking of cannabis, even long-term, is not harmful to health. ... It would be reasonable to judge cannabis as less of a threat ... than alcohol or tobacco."

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            • MR Bill
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              #21
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              Not sure about cannabis not have any negative health effects . When I used to smoke it I would get this kinda funny feeling in my head. Then I would start eating every thing in the frig. LOl.

              Well seriously, I've heard that there are 34 carcinogens in marijuana. Not sure if that is true but you would have to think there has to be something in it to damage your lungs. ??

              But I'm a libertarian and if you don't hurt anyone else except yourself then the goverment can just bite me.

              Going to get mileage out of that one I bet.

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              • mojorolla
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                #22
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                Marijuana has been known to cause short term memory loss.


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                • ZOOTECH
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                  #23
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                  Originally posted by mojorolla
                  Marijuana has been known to cause short term memory loss.


                  Huh? What did you just say?
                  "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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                  • Akitu
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                    #24
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                    Originally posted by MR Bill
                    Not sure about cannabis not have any negative health effects . When I used to smoke it I would get this kinda funny feeling in my head. Then I would start eating every thing in the frig. LOl.

                    Well seriously, I've heard that there are 34 carcinogens in marijuana. Not sure if that is true but you would have to think there has to be something in it to damage your lungs. ??

                    But I'm a libertarian and if you don't hurt anyone else except yourself then the goverment can just bite me.

                    Going to get mileage out of that one I bet.
                    While this is true, they're only present after combustion. There's a sweet spot of around 374 degrees Fahrenheit/190 degrees Celsius where the THC will burn off of the plant's surface without actually causing combustion, sparing the user from a majority of the carcinogens.

                    Originally posted by Ctl-Alt-Del
                    I would say the number is 30%-40% for the techs I have known over the past bunch of years but I am in the Pacific Northwest where weed is pretty much a socially acceptable substance.

                    Here is some info from NORML: About Marijuana

                    Marijuana is the third most popular recreational drug in America (behind only alcohol and tobacco), and has been used by nearly 100 million Americans. According to government surveys, some 25 million Americans have smoked marijuana in the past year, and more than 14 million do so regularly despite harsh laws against its use. Our public policies should reflect this reality, not deny it.
                    Marijuana is far less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco. Around 50,000 people die each year from alcohol poisoning. Similarly, more than 400,000 deaths each year are attributed to tobacco smoking. By comparison, marijuana is nontoxic and cannot cause death by overdose. According to the prestigious European medical journal, The Lancet, "The smoking of cannabis, even long-term, is not harmful to health. ... It would be reasonable to judge cannabis as less of a threat ... than alcohol or tobacco."
                    While it's not technically impossible to die of a cannabis overdose, it's highly improbable and nearly impossible. It would actually take about 14 lbs of cannabis to cause a fatal overdose in a 200lb man. Challenge accepted, anyone?
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                    • mrwho
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                      #25
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                      Originally posted by Akitu
                      Challenge accepted, anyone?
                      Go ahead!

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                      • Akitu
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                        #26
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                        Originally posted by mrwho
                        Go ahead!

                        Just think how close America is to legalization and what kind of sweeping effect that may hold for the rest of North America. This could become a reality in a large number of homes...
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                        • MR Bill
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                          #27
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                          On the radio this morning it said 52 % of Americans think marijunna should be legal. Might just happen.

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                          • SalesServiceGuy
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                            #28
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                            Seattle's budding economy: Pot tourism

                            Seattle's budding green economy: Pot tourism - CNN.com

                            In Washington State, residents over the age of 21 can now possess up to an ounce of cannabis, one pound of "a solid marijuana-infused product" like peanut butter fudge brownies, or 72 ounces of an infused liquid like a green tea smoothie.

                            Buying or selling marijuana won't be legal until December, after Washington's Liquor Control Board has ironed out all the necessary licensing and enforcement regulations. Police will be able to arrest drivers above the legal limit of 5 nanograms of THC, the psychoactive ingredient in pot, per milliliter of blood (officers already use roadside sobriety tests to issue DUI tickets, but the new law establishes a defined impairment level). And the police department dutifully notes that because it's still illegal to grow, sell or possess any amount of marijuana under federal law, "you probably shouldn't bring pot with you to the federal courthouse (or any other federal property)."

                            In Seattle, Hempfest is a major tourist draw as one of the largest annual events in the Pacific Northwest, and minor pot possession has been the lowest enforcement priority of the police department for nearly a decade.

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                            • Debs1964
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                              #29
                              Re: Marijuana

                              I am totally anti-drugs, I am anti-smoking, and, to an extent, anti-alcohol. However, I believe all drugs should be legalised. You are not going to get rid of drugs from the street just because they are illegal, by legalising them what you do achieve is to rid the streets of drug dealers.
                              Marijuana, while undoubtably less damaging long term than tobacco and alcohol, is not without risks. There has been enough research done on the links between marijuana and mental illness. While not actually causing the condition, if you are pre-disposed to a mental illness then marijuana can be the trigger to start it
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                              • Akitu
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                                #30
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                                Originally posted by Debs1964
                                I am totally anti-drugs, I am anti-smoking, and, to an extent, anti-alcohol. However, I believe all drugs should be legalised. You are not going to get rid of drugs from the street just because they are illegal, by legalising them what you do achieve is to rid the streets of drug dealers.
                                Marijuana, while undoubtably less damaging long term than tobacco and alcohol, is not without risks. There has been enough research done on the links between marijuana and mental illness. While not actually causing the condition, if you are pre-disposed to a mental illness then marijuana can be the trigger to start it
                                Basically, it all boils down to ethics. I've seen similar studies showing the same thing, and also some stating that marijuana can cause long term mental damage if consumed before the age of 25. With that in mind, when further studies are performed, do you think it will follow the same alcohol and tobacco laws of 18+ or will it incite a new law of 25+?
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