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  • KapeKopyTek
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    • Nov 2013
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    #1

    Industry Standards

    Just curious as to what the "industry standards" are for service calls per day? Call-backs? Etc. Who sets these standards - dealers, manufactureres, the Technicians Union? Do they differ by manufacturer? By country? Where can one find these standards? Just curious - our managment keeps urging us to "take ownership of our calls", but they keep selling more machines, and won't hire any more techs. We're falling further and further back on our reshedules....
  • fixthecopier
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    • Apr 2008
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    #2
    Re: Industry Standards

    I think those standards will vary from place to place. Under ideal circumstances a tech goes and does service on a machine when it's time for the pm cycle. He has plenty of time to do a through job. Reality can change things. Personally, I think you should make the customer happy, look after your companies interest and leave the machine in such a way that you would not be embarrassed if your boss showed up after you left to talk to the customer.

    If your shop has no standards as far as quality, you have to set your own. Don't ever lower yourself to what the other guys get away with. I am sure if you work for a manufacture direct, they have procedures in writing.

    I assume I am rated by what my company puts in writing once a year as an evaluation.

    total number of calls completed
    total without callbacks
    total money used on contract calls
    total money made selling parts
    total labor sold
    attendance
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    • Tonerbomb
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      #3
      Re: Industry Standards

      Industry standards............. heard this too many times !!! everyone is the same, yeah right !! My customers and their gear are not the same as yours, and they don't all use them the same way, and each brand has a different operating cost for the selling/service vender........... Had this blown up my ass too many times, when as the S/M I had no control of the CPC rates!!!!!!!

      You can go to the BTA alliance for numbers, or the web site for ENXMAG.com, or even copiercarrers.com. There is a service manager that put's her voice out there, Ronell Ingram, whom has a lot of good info on the numbers .................


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      • slimslob
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        • May 2013
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        #4
        Re: Industry Standards

        As far as industries standards for number of calls a day, I known tech whose territory was one building. They use the elevator to go from one call to the next. On the other hand, I have days where I will spending more time driving than working on equipment.

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        • igi
          Service Manager

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          • Apr 2009
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          #5
          Re: Industry Standards

          Hi all
          5-calls a day,is required as an average
          under normal conditions

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          • fixthecopier
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            #6
            Re: Industry Standards

            Originally posted by igi
            Hi all
            5-calls a day,is required as an average
            under normal conditions

            One of the great things about where I work is an unwritten rule that says "take care of your business and don't give the customer anything to call and complain about."
            I spent all day Monday on 2 problem calls, while having at least 6 or 7 open tickets on other things. Nothing is said.

            Do you feel having to maintain a minimum effects quality of work, and if there are not 5 broken machines for you that day, do you go out and clean and pm?
            The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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            • igi
              Service Manager

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              • Apr 2009
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              #7
              Re: Industry Standards

              Originally posted by fixthecopier
              One of the great things about where I work is an unwritten rule that says "take care of your business and don't give the customer anything to call and complain about."
              I spent all day Monday on 2 problem calls, while having at least 6 or 7 open tickets on other things. Nothing is said.

              Do you feel having to maintain a minimum effects quality of work, and if there are not 5 broken machines for you that day, do you go out and clean and pm?
              yes that is correct,if no calls it is expected to do check-ups on high volume customers

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              • gwaddle
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                500+ Posts
                • May 2009
                • 782

                #8
                Re: Industry Standards

                Like was said before, it all depends on where you are. The tech who works in only one building can get a lot done. Then you have situations like ours with 1000 contract customers and three techs covering an area about 60 miles north to south and 200 miles east to west. I know there are many who cover even bigger territories.

                In bigger cities and companies, techs can specialize on certain machines. We don't get to do that, everybody works on everything. It's hard to stick to any kind of standards as far as quantity of calls. All you can do is do the best quality service you can.
                I know I should be ashamed of myself. Strangely though, I am not.

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                • JR2ALTA
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                  • Feb 2010
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                  #9
                  That's a big "if".

                  So, you run around doing courteousy calls all day

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                  • Zackuth
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                    • Aug 2009
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                    #10
                    Re: Industry Standards

                    We are told to fix the machines, make sure they are running like when the customer first got the machine, and go to the next call. It's not that big of a deal on how much time we spend on any call but we aren't supposed to make a career out of one machine.
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                    • KapeKopyTek
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                      #11
                      Re: Industry Standards

                      Thank you all, I was just wondering if there are actual published industry standards, or is this something management is pulling out of their, uh........... hats....

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                      • ZOOTECH
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                        #12
                        Re: Industry Standards

                        Originally posted by KapeKopyTek
                        Thank you all, I was just wondering if there are actual published industry standards, or is this something management is pulling out of their, uh........... hats....
                        Partly that, and there are a few companies (BEI is one, I think) that collect data from dealers and manufactures and come up with averages for the different models.
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                        • NeoMatrix
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                          #13
                          Re: Industry Standards

                          What is an acceptable machine per technician ratio for the area that the tech has to cover?
                          Making allowances for travel time. Can one experienced tech maintain 600 machines for his given area ?
                          What is the industry standard ratio ? What is a realistic ratio before tech's start walking of the job?
                          Obviously the ratio would be different in the crambed city to that in country areas.
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                          • gwaddle
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                            #14
                            Re: Industry Standards

                            Originally posted by KapeKopyTek
                            Thank you all, I was just wondering if there are actual published industry standards, or is this something management is pulling out of their, uh........... hats....
                            I think there would just be too many variables to come up with any kind of meaningful standards. You have to keep in mind that the people who would come up with them likely would have no idea what it takes to do the job in remote areas. I know the manufacturers don't have a clue.
                            I know I should be ashamed of myself. Strangely though, I am not.

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