worst paper ever.

[ZOOTECH]

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Please make sure that it is plantation grown or you could be responsible for a koala losing his home.

And it's next meal!

[fixthecopier]

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I had a call on a PRESS C6000L for inconsistent/moving tri-folds. The real issue was the fact that the paper length varied from 10 3/4" to 12", and yes they cut it themselves. =^..^=

Spent a good hour or more on a Di251 that they said was jamming "once in a while", til I noticed the paper felt different. They confessed to cutting it themselves from leftover stock they print Psop fliers on.

We also have a lawyer who saves every sheet, and runs it back through the machine to use the backside. "NO JAM ISSUES THERE!"

[Phrag]

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I came across some 100% recycled, non bleached, not made from wood, hand made by one legged lesbians and all profits went to land rights for gay whales supposed bond paper. I think it was actually made from sugar cane trash and after the customer had put half a ream through the copier I had to strip the cleaning station out and removed at least a matchbox full of fluff.
Now I'm a bit of a greenie at heart but that stuff was appalling, its nice to help save the planet but sometimes you create more problems then you solve.

Especially when you have to burn liquefied dinosaur remains to visit the machine every time it breaks down.

[Brian8506]

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I have talked many customers out of using a fairly popular name brand paper. I'll avoid a slander accusation here and not mention any names. The moisture content is so high and the curl so bad that at certain times of the year it won't even run. Even had a few bad cases in the dead of winter. Personally I think 20lb paper is garbage these days. Any customer I have that runs a heavier paper has no problems.

[Akitu]

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We sell paper in pretty high quantities, vendors have changed several times over the years. Can't say I've ever had paper issues like you guys have! Get the odd case where someone has opened the ream and left it sitting out for weeks on end before loading it into the copier, but that's about the extent of it. Although with the last vendor we were actually getting 498 sheets per ream, effectively shorting us out a full ream of paper per ton.

[DWise]

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Although with the last vendor we were actually getting 498 sheets per ream, effectively shorting us out a full ream of paper per ton.

I pity the one who had to sit there and count each piece...

[slimslob]

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Personally I think 20lb paper is garbage these days. Any customer I have that runs a heavier paper has no problems.

I have had a Ricoh regional support rep recommend that 28lb white will give much better color copies.

[vincent64]

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I recall once at a school workroom, one of the big Toshiba's kept on jamming, did all the usual stuff, clean rollers, sensors, checked sensors, now funny thing, the Sharp AR 620 that they had for less then 6 months was also jamming, now I am like WTF.
The school custodian solved it for me, told me they had run out of letter size, and was cutting down legal size to letter, I pulled paper from the large trays and took a good look at it, and yepp... had been cut down, and not very well, they used the paper cutter, the old fashioned had type, end of school year budget runs tight, so they make do with what they have.

[slimslob]

Re: worst paper ever.

I recall once at a school workroom, one of the big Toshiba's kept on jamming, did all the usual stuff, clean rollers, sensors, checked sensors, now funny thing, the Sharp AR 620 that they had for less then 6 months was also jamming, now I am like WTF.
The school custodian solved it for me, told me they had run out of letter size, and was cutting down legal size to letter, I pulled paper from the large trays and took a good look at it, and yepp... had been cut down, and not very well, they used the paper cutter, the old fashioned had type, end of school year budget runs tight, so they make do with what they have.

If you ever run into the situation where the customer is out of 8 1/2 x 11, tell them to make the copies first, then cut off the excess.

[Akitu]

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I pity the one who had to sit there and count each piece...

Actually that was easier than you might think, we do commercial printing for the local shops. We would set it to do a 500 page job and it would ask for paper at 498 every time. Check the stack for double feeds and it would never be the case, always 2 pages short in every ream of every box.

[cccjjn]

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Being near the ocean we get a lot of damp paper calls. Machines though are much more forgiving these days than they were in the past. I think back to the old Mita 1205 and others which would make blank copies if the moisture content in the paper was too high......you'd change the paper and it would make perfect copies again. I used to carry my own paper in my car just for testing because often the customer's entire paper supply would be damp.

I've also seen where the glue from the wrapper would get on the edges gluing sections of the ream together.

[theengel]

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Now that I think about it...

I had an HP 4500 in my basement that someone had given to me. It sat there for over a year before I one day decided I needed some color prints. It was giving my practically blank prints, and I was thinking I needed a new drum or transfer unit at first. I ran out of paper that I was testing it with, and so I turned the paper over to reuse it. Then I started getting good config sheets. I realized then that I had a paper problem... and felt pretty stupid about the whole thing.