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  • jquimze15
    Technician
    • Apr 2007
    • 21

    #1

    Full color advice

    Hi People!
    Have a costumer searching for a machine to work on design and publicity imaging. Not wanting to buy an offset, wich (used / 2nd hand) machine should I purpose?
    Has to fit for:
    - Full color Printer; A3+; up to 300gsm (170lb) paper; accurate; finishing with booklet and stappler; RIP print server with software...
    Please?!
  • 10871087
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2005
    • 1143

    #2
    Your kidding, right? 300gsm is too thick to run through just about any copier, especially a used copier.

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    • jquimze15
      Technician
      • Apr 2007
      • 21

      #3
      Full color advise

      Konica and Xerox have it!
      The problem is..$$$

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      • kyoceradude
        The Great Gazoo

        250+ Posts
        • Aug 2006
        • 442

        #4
        Originally posted by jquimze15
        Konica and Xerox have it!
        The problem is..$$$
        Sounds to me like you answered your own question. I never heard of a machine that can do anything over 120lb. My suggestion is walk away, walk away fast..........
        My mission here on Earth is to help all you Dum-Dums!

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        • Copier_Guy
          Senior Tech

          500+ Posts
          • May 2007
          • 543

          #5
          You might want to look at the Canon iRColor 3200/3220 with a C1/C2 Fiery Print Server and a N2 Saddle Finisher. I can run up to 140lb. Index from the manual feed tray up to size 12x18. It's business color but I see a lot of print shops using it and the color isn't too bad.

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          • Mr Spock
            Vulcan Inventor of Death

            1,000+ Posts
            • Aug 2006
            • 2064

            #6
            Check the 3510c by Toshiba with the new fiery rip. Good running box add the saddle stich finisher. Good color and price is not tooo bad.
            And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

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            • Kopyrtek
              Copier Psychologist

              250+ Posts
              • Jan 2007
              • 407

              #7
              I think the Canon Ir5180 can do 140 # index from the bypass up to 12x18.Has better color than the 3220 also.

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              • Copier_Guy
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • May 2007
                • 543

                #8
                Originally posted by Kopyrtek
                I think the Canon Ir5180 can do 140 # index from the bypass up to 12x18.Has better color than the 3220 also.
                That is true. It's the upgrade version of the 3220.

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                • jquimze15
                  Technician
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 21

                  #9
                  Thanks all of you!

                  The Toshiba seems good... The Canon 5180 is the machine I'm looking for!

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                  • Tonerbomb
                    AutoMajical Resolutionist

                    Site Contributor
                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 2589

                    #10
                    Best machine I've serviced for running all those unsupported media types is the Ricoh 6513. 13"x19" bypass only rated 140lb. Capable of running card board and wood grain venier. I have a customer that uses 80lb wasau exact gloss coated as everyday paper from the trays. Ricoh support won't touch this. Draw back... can't duplex these media's and forget finisher options. CPC is alittle pricey.Color is good enough for professional presentation and print 4 pay.

                    P.S. she is a high maintenance lady.
                    Mystic Crystal Revelations

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                    • MrCMYK
                      Technician
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 14

                      #11
                      Check out the C6500 from Kinolta, it will do 300 gm2 from the optional paper feed unit. I haven't tried it, it will also do 256gm2 from most if not all cassettes.

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                      • Discount Printing Service
                        Technician
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 36

                        #12
                        The Xante Illumina handles up to 502 gsm. It is an Okidata manufactured machine modified by Xante to handle heavier stocks than Oki's version. The Okidata C9650hn Color Signage Printer model will handle up to 385 gsm/18 pt. Only drawback is their consumables are very high for print for pay locations not to bad though for end users. I have the older Oki model C9200 and it handles most cover stock up to 12 pt. Produces beautiful color up to 13x19 but I upgraded to a Canon C3220 due to the consumable cost of the Oki. If I were going to buy another Oki or Xante printer I would go with the Oki, it is a fraction of the cost of the Xante version unless I just had to have the 502 gsm, but 385 gsm is plenty heavy enough even for most copy shops or commercial printers.
                        Thanks,
                        John M
                        DPS
                        Senior Field Technician

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