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  • printershelp
    Technician
    • Nov 2010
    • 10

    #1

    no free estimate

    A new customer call me to come and fix a color copier machine. I told them how much i charge for the service call and they accepted. i went there and i checked the copier and i found out that it needed a drun unit . i went back to my office and email them the price. after that i never heard from them. my question is what form needed for my new customer to sign before starting the job. I would like to be paid for my service time if they don't accept the estimate.

    i gave them a fair estimate by giving them the part number needed and by calling precision roller dealer directly to order the part.

    please let me know ....thanks all
    Last edited by printershelp; 11-12-2010, 11:11 PM.
  • Ducttape n Glue
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Apr 2010
    • 195

    #2
    Same as a doctor, you bill for your time, you diagnosed a problem and recommended a cure. Unless you stated it was no charge estimate up front, I would bill it as labor time, description : diagnose problem, gave solution.

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    • printershelp
      Technician
      • Nov 2010
      • 10

      #3
      but the customer didn't sign any work/order. do i have to mention in the work/order that this isn't a free estimate .

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      • Ducttape n Glue
        Trusted Tech

        100+ Posts
        • Apr 2010
        • 195

        #4
        I would always have them sign something. At this point I would still bill them as they know you did perform a service call. You stated that you told them your service rate and they accepted it. Who is bringing up this free estimate concept, you or the customer? Are you assuming that they will assume this was a free estimate? If so why? If in the end you don't get paid, consider it a valuable lesson learned. To bolster your position in the invoice you can state it alittle more descriptive like: Performed service call. Diagnosed problem. Recommended solution. Provided supply quote. These are all factual things you did as a service tech that have value. Again, I think you need to look back at when and where the free estimate concept came into play and decide your position..

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        • printershelp
          Technician
          • Nov 2010
          • 10

          #5
          i never mention free estimate to them. i guess i learned a lesson that we should always make your customers sign the w/o.

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          • kingpd@businessprints.net
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Feb 2008
            • 919

            #6
            Definitely charge. You traveled and gave professional advice. For the future, I'd recommend getting a credit card number over the phone and authorize it or charge it BEFORE you leave. At least get a check or cash before you leave the customers site. Actually checks are about worthless to me anymore.

            Now we have, to close a deal on parts, especially if they're expensive, offered to come and install them for free after they've paid for the initial inspection...just make sure you build in enough mark-up for the part to cover your time anyway.

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            • fixthecopier
              ALIEN OVERLORD

              2,500+ Posts
              • Apr 2008
              • 4714

              #7
              Our paying customers are told when they call that if no work is done or they refuse the estimate, they will be charged a "Field Estimate Fee". Usually $45 Local. The in shop estimate is $20, or the customer may elect to donate their machine to our parts machine pile.
              The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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              • jonhiker
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Apr 2010
                • 661

                #8
                We charge for an estimate and then credit that if they elect to have the work done. .It is different then the std sevice call. The charge is for evaluating the machine and the estimate itself. Other than cleaning the glass, we do not do any other work, or it becomes a standard sevice call.

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                • netcomval
                  Technician
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 11

                  #9
                  I work on konica minolta's and work for my own. i never change any drums or fusers on old machines.
                  I just suggest to the clients they would spend the same amountor 20% more for a new machine or just lease a colour one.
                  but change the drum?
                  if I see they are not that happy to spend some extra money, i just take away the machine to my lab, than I call them back: "ok, I checked the machine, this is what you have to spend." if they don't accept, the old machine stay at my place

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                  • RRodgers
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1947

                    #10
                    Originally posted by printershelp
                    A new customer call me to come and fix a color copier machine. I told them how much i charge for the service call and they accepted. i went there and i checked the copier and i found out that it needed a drun unit . i went back to my office and email them the price. after that i never heard from them. my question is what form needed for my new customer to sign before starting the job. I would like to be paid for my service time if they don't accept the estimate.

                    i gave them a fair estimate by giving them the part number needed and by calling precision roller dealer directly to order the part.

                    please let me know ....thanks all
                    We give them an internal part number ( one I've made up) that way they can't go out and compair on the web. If they do find it on the web we usually try to price match.
                    Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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                    • dickierock
                      Trusted Tech

                      Site Contributor
                      250+ Posts
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 252

                      #11
                      New customers are told politley on logging the call that as they dont have a previous account with us, payment for callout/service is to be paid upfont on the day.If they're genuine they pay,if they're not then you've cut them loose before they waste your time.

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                      • printershelp
                        Technician
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 10

                        #12
                        Epson stylus pro 7600 driver for ink discharge

                        I am looking for EPSON Stylus Pro 7600 Driver to be able to perform an ink discharge and other things from the computer.... Thank you all.

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                        • Alexa

                          #13
                          Re: no free estimate

                          When a new costumer calls for my service, I brief them about my upfront service fees, and make sure they agreed on it before I go. I need to make sure I get paid for my services before I leave a costumers house .

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                          • copiman
                            Technician

                            500+ Posts
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 861

                            #14
                            Re: no free estimate

                            We charge our standard service fee when responding to a call. We have a one hour minimum. Then each hour after that is broken into 15 min. sections. I have the customer sign my work order for the one hour before I leave even if I will need to return with parts. This way, if the customer decided to not have me return, they still owe the initial call. If I spent 30 min. on the initial call and do return, the first 30 min. is included in the first call. I fell that I incurred a cost for the trip to the customers site as well as my services while at the customer site. Think about it this way. If you go to a doctor, you are charged at least an office visit. If they have to do anything more than check your blood pressure, weigh you, listen to your heart beat and lungs, you will be charged for it in addition to the office visit. Have a heating and air man come to your home, you will be charged. Plumber. Charge. Your services are worth something. Always do what is right, and you can never go wrong.

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                            • aodtech
                              Trusted Tech

                              100+ Posts
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 194

                              #15
                              Re: no free estimate

                              I dealt with this crap a lot with my previous job. Non-contract customers expect that by paying the minimum service rate $x per hour that their wheezing 20+ year old POS copier will be back up to snuff. But regardless of any billable call, unless they have an established account, demand payment upfront. Before I even put my toolbag down, I always confirm with the customer that they are aware that the call will be chargeable. If not, then I try my best to not let the door hit my ass on my way out.

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