What's Stopping Me................

[Bill Monroe]

Going independent

I noticed that this thread hasn't had any activity in about a week but I thought that I'd ad my two cents.

I have been an independent for the better part of the past 20 years and I must admit there are times when I yearned for the security of a "job". But you know what? You can do pretty well for yourself if you're willing to go out and pound the pavement. You can talk to the customers that you are taking care of and ask them how they would feel about signing a service contract with a small insependent (YOU!) You can line up several dozen customers within a month. If you are personable and customers like you, you can get a leg up. As far as worrying about keeping up with technology, you can become a dealer or a retailer and have access to new machines, parts, supplies and technical support. Copystar is always looking for dealers, and I found out that you can become a dealer for NEC who market Kyocera and Konica-Minolta machines ans you don't even have to have a store front. You can do it out of your home. There are a multitude of resources that you can connect with for parts, supplies and machines. I deal with NuWorld down in Cerritos and I've been able to get machines, parts, and whatever else I need from them. They're good. I'm also a dealer for NEC but I work from home and best of all, I get to keep all the money!

Let me know how you make out. There are always options.

Aloha,
Mr. Bill (Oh Nooo!)



















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[Scorotron Wizard]

Good luck to you
I would recommend you stick to one or two brand as it takes a while to find your way round their service modes etc.

[arriva1]

Good luck to you
I would recommend you stick to one or two brand as it takes a while to find your way round their service modes etc.

I agree. I put service contracts on Toshiba and Sharp mainly. Although I will service just about anything, it gets hard to carry that many different toners and supplies.

[Scorotron Wizard]

Thanks for that but it's not just the toners, its finding the different procedures to get into the service modes, I remember CROP codes for Sharp machines but what no does what (CROP 14 Fix all) 10871087 for the old Mita and some Nashua (& now the new Kyocera) stop 0 stop1 Minolta, Stick a spike in the hole for Cannon, Paper tray UP etc for Panasonic, these are just afew off the top of my head, but then what code does what, if you stick to a couple of brands you can get quite good at sorting the problems, ok take on any that come along but when you upgrade you can put in a mc that you know your way around. Anything you are not sure of ask here on the forum you can be assured of support here

[arriva1]

Thats true. Thats why I only put the service contracts on Toshiba and Sharp. Machines that I know well and have solid support on. I service the rest on a per call basis. That way if it looks like a good account I can check out the machine and with the intrivias guide you can get by most times. 80% of the time its something you can figure out right away. If not and I think its going to more of a pain in the ass than its worth then I respectfully decline the job and I'll usually give them some names of other independants that specialize in that specific brand. Then they will reccomend you when they run into a problem with a brand you specialize in. Most of the calls I get from my advertizing is companies that are sick of the big dealers and being roped into these never ending leases. There is a sea of repoed and off lease equiptment out there, some current models with very low meters that a small guy can make a good living and still compete with the big guys and save customers money. The only accounts I have trouble getting are the very large companies, but I'd rather stay with the midsized companies anyway. When you have a few accounts that generate most of your income and you lose one it could be devastating. I have 70-80 contract customers and a few hundred supply and per call customers and its just my wife doing all the office work and drop ship orders and I take care of sales, parts, and service. The only draw back I have as an independant is the ability to take any extended time off (which does suck). It would be nice to have one more tech that could handle things while I'm gone and take over when I drop out.

[mickspace]

Been a tech since 98, seen alot of changes come down and can say that I have adapted quite well, everything from Sharp being the ghetto brand to winning awards and when Konica and Mita's were just Konica and Mita and not there new elongated names. Now I am not saying I am gods gift to any company that I have ever worked for, because I'm not. I've upset customers, co-workers and even owners in the past. We all have. Been thru more classes than I care to count and still run into machines that leave me looking at the machine going . Factory trained on Sharp, Konica, Mita, Savin and picked up quite a bit on the other manufactures to include duplicators, Duplo, Rizzo and so on.

Took a break from the industry for awhile, when I left I was at 40k a year, my first year back I'll be lucky if I make 30k. Got all the other training that is required for us. A+, Network+, so why am I working for a guy who makes scrooge look generous. Why aren't I out there doing my own thing. If any indie's or even other techs who have been pondering this , read this, chime in. I own my own tools and vaccum, so whats stopping me? How hard is it to pick up machines for service. I need advice. I am in Central California and wondering what my next move should be. Do I go to another company and hope that things stay better for longer than 90 days, or should I branch out?

I have owned a small business, and I can tell you, Write Your Own Checks! Trust no one; get your self a lawyer and accountant. Get a business plan, the Small Business Administration http://www.sba.gov/ will help with this, they have coaches and counselors etc.


http://www.precisionroller.com/

http://www.all-laser.com/

http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/hpparts.html

http://www.p2gcentral.com/

http://www.innovone.com/~tsa/dispframe.php?catred=0200

http://www.hytecrepair.com/

http://www.intravia.com/ (Manuals, I am told this is good, never used it thou?)

[Raimond]

Just do It!

Simple, get up and get out and start knocking on doors, and you will see how quickly word of mouth gets around about your tech support and repair, if you are good you will stay busy and get rich but not without a lot of hard work. I can tell you this it ain't going to come to you you have to get out and get it so unless you are happy making 30-40K. The worst that can happen is that you will have to go back and get your old job back. I started a prepress business 28 years ago and sold it three ago, started in my house with nothing and ended up billing over 2.7 million per year... best time to start is NOW...

[mmru4real]

I work for myself and my wife stays home and does the office work. I'm not getting rich yet but i'm not starving either. Its hard to take time off, but I'm not punching a clock.
There is plenty of tech support out there if you run into trouble. I have never been factory trained on any machine and run a good business (15 years).
I'm also looking for a good tech that wants to go out on there own (in florida). I have a great base of 80-90 contracts and hundreds of per call and supply order customers. Lots of room for more business but theres only so many hours in the day.

You can always contact me I am an Independent in FL

[nmfaxman]

Wether you think you can, or think you can't
Either way you are right.

[MattPhung]

Call for Service Message

My Toshiba E-Studio 550 gave me a Call for service Message and locked the copier. I can't push any buttons. How do I reset the copier so I can see what's wrong.

[b003ace]

One thing to consider

Something none of the previous replies has mentioned is ethics.

Do you have a non-compete clause in your current employment arrangement?

Is it ethical for you to solicit customers who you know only through your current employment? How will those customers look at your integrity as a result?

If the distributors are poking around looking for someone else to take over, maybe the owner would be interested in selling cheaper? That would eliminate many of the ethical concerns and give you an established customer base. Just so long as the old owner makes everything right with the distributors.

Personally, with the changes the industry is going through, I wouldn't want to go out on my own right now, but then, I'm not sure I even want to stay in the industry...

[DAG COPIERS & COMPUTERS]

hey mezagog, three years down the road tell us what u eventually did.

[Froota]

hey mezagog, three years down the road tell us what u eventually did.

Yes, it would be interesting!!!

[Jules Winfield]

Something none of the previous replies has mentioned is ethics.

Do you have a non-compete clause in your current employment arrangement?

Is it ethical for you to solicit customers who you know only through your current employment? How will those customers look at your integrity as a result?

If the distributors are poking around looking for someone else to take over, maybe the owner would be interested in selling cheaper? That would eliminate many of the ethical concerns and give you an established customer base. Just so long as the old owner makes everything right with the distributors.

Personally, with the changes the industry is going through, I wouldn't want to go out on my own right now, but then, I'm not sure I even want to stay in the industry...

An excellent point. I know for a fact that the dealership I used to work for had their salespeople sign some kind of "no compete" agreement. They would actually sue if a salesman left and took any customer information with them. No sure if it was the same for service contracts, but I would guess that it was.

[nmfaxman]

According to Mezagog's profile page, he hasn't been on this site since 2 months after the post.

I guess he went on to another career.

Makes me wonder why I am still in it after all these years.